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David de Gea has left Manchester United
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Apparently his CL stats were much better than his domestic league stats. Last season anyway.
How does the transfer window closing effect free agents? Is it still the case they can sign with anyone but can't be registered outside the window or is there an extended window for free agents? Pretty sure it's the former but can't remember.
Yeh, tbh it's difficult to judge Onana on last season for a lot of reasons. Inter were inconsistent in the league, poor early in the CL then brilliant later on. Inters gradual improvement over the season did seem to coincide with Onana cementing himself as the number one though but you could also attribute that to them being so below par that they could only improve.
Obviously he can get a job, just not one he would want. I mean jeez Louise, even Joe Hart still has a job.
Bloody hell, the rough math in my thought 80-80% but then I thought I was being kind but your math seems even more damning!
Yeah it’s all up to him but I’d imagine a Saudi end might not be the worst, all factors considered but he might be dead set against it, and the benefits of being close to family and home cannot be underestimated. He’s already a multi millionaire
He's not an 'awful awful' keeper, but there are a hell of a lot more issues with him than just his play out from the back and he hasn't been 'tremendous' for half a decade now. He's an above average shot-stopper who is poor to downright terrible in pretty much every other aspect of his game, who also tends to make a lot of mistakes in the bigger more important games.
Go to Inter. Swap keepers.
Don’t hold your breath
For several seasons DDG was voted as the clubs best player by supporters and its not too far fetched to say that at times it was him who was the difference between a mediocre finish somewhere in the top 7 of the Prem and finishing further down. DDG may not be the keeper he was or the sort of keeper ETH wants but at his best he was one of the best keepers around, and was for some time.
Yeah but the past is the past and irrelevent to people running football clubs. Is he good enough for a top side in 2023? No. That's why he is unemployed.
Yes, that was the case for about 6 years. His all-round game was always poor but his shot-stopping was so incredibly good (probably one of the best of all time) that most would agree it more than made up for it. But it honestly felt like the pressure and mistakes of the 2018 World Cup broke him, and to all intents and purposes De Gea left at that point and a completely different keeper came back. Somebody who was a shadow of the keeper that came before, but who we continued to use as our undisputed #1 for a further half a decade (and made the highest paid player in the league and the highest paid keeper in history).
There's a slight chance that joining another club and having a fresh start might allow him to recover somewhat and at least get his shot-stopping ability back to close to his best. It's unlikely, but the fact he briefly showed it again for a few months in 21/22 does indicate he hasn't completely lost it. Would probably need to be out of the limelight though where there isn't as much pressure.
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I remember DDG being decent with the ball and was beginning to claim crosses, especially in the LVG era. But after that he regressed for some crazy reason. He's now at the same point he was in his first two seasons but with worse shot stopping.
I agree, DDG stayed too long and was basically living on his past heroics and the odd great moment.
It seems like it's not him or Gk that holding us back on playing "tenHag football" eh? We have one of the best Gk but still playing crap as a team.
Now people realize we need 2 CM, RB, striker, winger, backup CB, etc.
Now people realize we need 2 CM, RB, striker, winger, backup CB, etc.
That's the irony. His inadequacy made him excel in stopping shots. Something that a more well rounded keeper wont see much off.
Compared to other top GK they dont make De Gea saves because most of the times they dont need to and shots saved are much less.
It's like Rio dont have to make last ditch tackle because he already dealt with the problem before it comes to that
Nonsense, he was awful since 2018 and should have gone.
Still no new club for him?
Remember this was the highest paid goalkeeper in world football two months ago and nobody has signed him up on a free in the seven weeks he’s been a free agent. Surely he’s demanding close to ridiculous wages he was getting from us which is why most clubs are staying away. It’d be pretty damning on us and him if it was just that nobody wants him.
A podcast I listen to pointed out that DDG was at his best when United were at their worst. The more shots they conceded, the better DDG looked because he was great at saving them.
That's the case with a lot of our players. We should always ask ourselves "Would this guy get this anywhere else?" Saudis are an exception obviously but we pay some players wages that no other PL club would give them.
How many of our players leave and go on to bigger and better teams? Herrera went to PSG but they're hardly top tier. DDG was wanted by Real years ago who definitely qualified. Thats it really. Most of our players leave and go to 2nd tier teams (e.g. teams in Italy or midtable English teams).
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Surprised Becks hasn’t tried to get him for his Inter Miami team
Which one should he sack to accommodate him?
Your choice is one of Messi, Busquets or Alba
Ironic that we replace him with a goalkeeper whose passing would shame some premier league midfielders and in the last two games we've mostly looked as toothless as we've ever looked in the past decade. fecking hell.
Leagues have started and DDG still can’t find a club. If that’s not damning of his reputation then I don’t know what is.
Its a combination of everyone in the world knowing he's done at the absolute top level of football to justify paying him the wages he wants (except Man Utd for the last couple seasons of course), and him not wanting to go a level lower than the top.
This video does a great job explaining why. (and is also a very interesting history lesson on how MLS came to be)
If this situation hadn't happened, a few on here would have still been trying to convince us that he would easily be desirable for any other top club. This is the reality for the vast majority of our squad. Grossly overpaid in comparison to talent level and as a result, nearly impossible to move on at a profit. Without us, most would be undesirable for most clubs.
But but Onana would transform our game you know.
But but Onana would transform our game you know.
Give it some time like 10-15 games at least before Gloating and all this I told you so , it's work in progress .
I've seen this a few times and I just don't think it's true. While a more well-rounded keeper might lower your shots faced by maybe one or two per game, the main reason a team will concede opportunities is the 10 outfield players in front of the keeper, not the actual keeper themselves.
Case in point, Alisson - the best kepeer in the land - faced more shots on target last season then DDG and conversly, made more saves - largely because the XI in front of him spent a lot of time being really crap.
Then you also have the fact that Onana - a far more well rounded keeper then De Gea - conceded more shots on his goal in one game at OT then De Gea has ever faced in a game at OT - again thanks to the XI in front of him.
But but Onana would transform our game you know.
Onana was our best player so far over the two games. A massive upgrade on De Gea.
Unfortunately, the manager has fecked up and our midfield has regressed. However upgrading on De Gea was always the right decision. It is like upgrading on Weghorst.
This is a huge blow, he's still one of the best in the world.
De Gea has been painfully average or downright horrible since 2018. It was time for him to go.But but Onana would transform our game you know.
It's fecking hilarious (and damning) that Manchester United's two highest paid players couldn't find another team in Europe to play for once they left us.
How do we end up paying premium wages to players who nobody else wants? It's like the forces of supply and demand don't exist in the topsy turvy world of Disneyland FC.
How do we end up paying premium wages to players who nobody else wants? It's like the forces of supply and demand don't exist in the topsy turvy world of Disneyland FC.
But but Onana would transform our game you know.
Are you still wanting DDG as number 1?
Onana has been brilliant, sadly he's shone more light on how poor we are with our passing, movement and inept finishing. Hopefully we can do much better sooner than later and utilize Onana or a top team will tap him up.
Onana has been top class and I already like him, he is a top GK. However it was painfully obvious and still is that we have far bigger issues than the GK. And comparing DDG to Weghorst is the laughable part of your post.
I want the supposed "transformations" that was so obvious to follow when we replace the "shit" DDG with the modern keeper. According to footballing experts it was the finishing touch to this "super team" that struggles to score goals. I bet you love watching Onana pin beautiful passes just to finish it up by our proficient attack and midfield.
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