You're not exactly balanced in your opinions of the two are you?They've seen what?
De Gea let's in a soft goal in the FA cup final
Onana commits a feck up of great magnitude
David De Gea Appreciation Thread
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De Gea let's in a soft goal in the FA cup final
Onana commits a feck up of great magnitude
Well if you even debate that those 2 goals and mistakes were the same then you are the one without a balanced opinion.
Last years second goal came from behind a player and basically through Varane bouncing over his leg, making it difficult to spot it earlier, and I still do think DDG should have saved it, marking it as a mistake despite the mitigating fa.
This years Doku goal was pure brain fart, Onana was watching Doku as he moved inside, followed him on the last replay clearly seeing when he was shooting, proceeded to make a meal out of a shot he clearly got on time to save. I don't think the mistakes were of similar magnitude as they had different circumstances.
He moves back 2-2.5 yards, then sets himself, then falls backwards another yard and a half in his non-save. From where he sets himself (pre-strike) it's still a routine save if he actually dives, which he didn't. He looks miles away from it because he's essentially sat down but he wasn't.
I'm asking you to explain the evidence you used to reach your assessment of "people" in this thread because it didn't really line up with anything I'd read, especially since the post was bumped. I don't think you can complain about someone being confrontational for asking you to show your working for a deliberately weird, passive aggressive, judgemental and unsubstantiated comment you made a point of posting in a thread.
And you did give me an example, I acknowledged my expectations were the issue as from your wording it seems like a topical observation based on multiple instances. It obviously wasn't based on the reply, which I accepted and offered no further comment. I think the point I made stands on it's own at this point.
I liked his idea that I'm somehow hiding the footage from everyone and I'm the arbiter of who can watch the highlights of the 2023 FA Cup Final on Youtube, and not just posting still images instead of linking the video because we're referencing an objects position in specific moments in the videoMost people have probably seen you in the Onana thread
I really don't agree that it would have been a routine save from the initial position but if you think so, fair enough. His movement backwards then makes it impossible for him to save it because the ball has already gotten to far at that point.
This is the bit that doesn't line up with the video, I understand and disagree if you think it's a hard save from where he sets himself (which is about half a yard inside his 6 yard box), but by that point the ball hasn't even touched Gundogan's foot yet. All that backwards motion after that is just his weird not-dive. It's such a strange bit of footwork, I can only put it down to him being totally cold.
I'm saying that when he does the step backwards after you say he set himself up, then from there it's already too late.
Yes, but that's just awful goalkeeping isn't it? Which was my initial point. You won't find me arguing the weird backwards crouch he did made the save easier, that's for sure! It's why I'd rather he'd just tried to move in the general direction of the ball
It's not great, true, happens all the time though. Anyway, considering I really do not agree that it would be an easy save from the initial position it doesn't really matter.Yes, but that's just awful goalkeeping isn't it? Which was my initial point. You won't find me arguing the weird backwards crouch he did made the save easier, that's for sure! It's why I'd rather he'd just tried to move in the general direction of the ball
I wonder if he'll be playing for someone in the 24/25 season.
A sad end to a more than decent career, it was as if suddenly the game passed him by and he never caught up.
It must be his wages demand that put him out of football picture and looks like he's gone completely now.
I didn't rate him in last few years but he wasn't that bad to not get a club.
I didn't rate him in last few years but he wasn't that bad to not get a club.
Still shameful that we never gave de Gea testimonial after all his years here. Hopeful that he's back playing football for the new season.
Maybe he should retire then
Wonder what his wage demands are now? He is not in a position of strength.
I do wonder what his motivations are. If he isn't bothered about what he does, go to Saudi and get a nice retirement top-up for a few years.
If he wants to play top level, drop his wages to something sensible and there will be lots of clubs who are interested
If he wants to play top level, drop his wages to something sensible and there will be lots of clubs who are interested
He was ready for lower wages even with us.
Of course he will retire. Which club will pay him 150k per week honestly?
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Yes. But nowhere near low enough. He was on 350k a week.
I doubt anyone would pay him 60 now
We totally overrate our players.
But but but he’s great apparently. The guy couldn’t come off his line, command his area or save a pen to save his life. The fact that this fraud was our player of the year shows how shit we were and how fickle our dumb fans are to reflex saves. He’s the total opposite of a modern keeper and stole a living at this club.
What a horrible thing to say about someone who gave his all for the club for a decade.
Depends on how you define "position of strength". He is a multimillionaire, his wife is independently a multimillionaire, he doesn't need more than what he already has, he is happy with his life ... well, that's what I'd call a "position of strength". If there is an offer he likes, he will be back at work, if not, he does not need to work - ever.
Agreed. I just do not understand some of the fan base at all.
Yep. Better than the footballers who squander their wealth.
Stole a living? He was one of the top 2 keepers in the world in the mid 2010s, many would argue the best.
He really wasnt, he was never on the level of a Casillas or a Neuer or a Buffon
Why would you say he give his all when he shy away from challenges and makes the most number of errors out of all keepers in the whole world?
How’s that top club for DDG going mate?
It's very stupid of him if he is demanding to be a number one at a major club, as the reality is that he's just not good enough.
Lots of major clubs have changed their goalkeeper in the last 12 months and none of them have been interested in him, even on a free transfer which is pretty damning.
It feels like there's an air of arrogance about it too. He could have easily have accepted a one year deal somewhere to try and work his way back up, but at the age of 32 he decided it was better to skip an entire season!
I don't know why he thinks any top club would bring him in as a first choice now when they've had 12 months to bring him in!
Lots of major clubs have changed their goalkeeper in the last 12 months and none of them have been interested in him, even on a free transfer which is pretty damning.
It feels like there's an air of arrogance about it too. He could have easily have accepted a one year deal somewhere to try and work his way back up, but at the age of 32 he decided it was better to skip an entire season!
I don't know why he thinks any top club would bring him in as a first choice now when they've had 12 months to bring him in!
I've seen numbers between 250k and 275k being quoted as his renegotiated wages, which would have still put him firmly within the top ten best paid goalkeepers at the time. A position that, in my opinion, wasn't backed up by his performance on the pitch at the time, and his trajectory wasn't looking up either. With what he had shown the past two seasons I'd have struggled to see anyone justify more than 150k, 200k at most for him. Even less now that he's seen a full year without a club.
More than his wages though I'd see the tweet's claimed target of being #1 at a major club as a major obstacle. I honestly can't see who'd be interested in bringing him in, rather than some other keeper who hadn't been out of a job for the past year and had a perfomance curve pointing upwards. Even if they afford his wages easily, he just hasn't been good enough these last seasons to justify a starter position at a big club.
The last summer window was really busy for keepers, yet nobody even looked his way more than some usual nametossing for clicks by media outlets. If anything, this window is going to be an even worse market for him.
Not a notion I saw a lot outside of United, and to a lesser extent, Spanish NT fan circles. Top five, certainly. Top two, occasionally. Number one, very rarely. Usually that spot would be Buffon, Casillas (more like an early to mid '10s thing though) or Neuer.
The notion that he stole a living is utterly ridiculous of course, but I also don't see him ever having had such a high standing outside of United followership.
He's handling his career very poorly. VDS had to go to Fulham before joining United, and De Gea could easily revive his career at a small club.
I disagree with this opinion and the way you talk about servants of the club.
I think he's being way too cocky, he's not a top goalkeeper anymore. Hasnt been for at least 4-5 years now so demanding being a number 1 at a top club is out of reach for him. That doesnt mean he can still play at a top league, if he adjust his demands I think several mid-table clubs at the top 5 leagues would be interested in him.
Strange post.
Ridiculous
Worst post I've read for a long time.