What isn't true? De Gea might not have moved on the first goal last year, but he wouldn't have saved that even if he did, no version of De Gea would have done that.
David De Gea Appreciation Thread
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I think you're misremembering. It was absolutely nowhere near the top corner and not especially powerfully struck. Saying no version of De Gea would have saved that when he pulled off the save vs the Mata freekick is absolutely insane. He had so much time to watch it and he knew it was coming. He just had his feet in the wrong place and didn't react. It was horrible goalkeeping.
He did the same for the second one too, which bobbled in after a couple of bounces. He just didn't move his feet.
So much for being an appreciation thread.....
It's not an appreciation thread if you're using it to put down his successor. Seems silly to get angsty about one but not the other.
I'm not misremembering. It would have been an absolutely spectacular save he had he saved that. I don't think it's worth discussing if you think it was horrible keeping when he didn't save that.
The second one was bad, indeed, but so was the one yesterday.
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Both of them were essentially 0xG and even the PSxG (the difficulty of the shot after it's been struck) on them didn't hit 0.1 which is the threshold for a "chance". You should really go back and watch it, it's nowhere near the corner and it only looks so hard to save because De Gea is basically on his knees.
It's difficult to see from a still image, but this is the frame from just as the ball is about to cross the line and it's travelled a long way.
I think PSxG is a great measure over a season, but I doubt there is enough data to accurately judge every single situation.
Anyway, had de Gea been standing closer to the goal line as the shot was taken it would have been a fairly easy save. As it was he was moving backwards as the shot was taken (actually in the air), which already there made it almost impossible for him to save. We can blame the footwork of De Gea for moving back as the shot was taken, but the thing is had he instead of moving so far back held his position at closer to the 6-yards line (which I think a more "modern" goalkeeper would have done) it would also have been an incredibly hard shot to save (a lot less reaction time as well as the height of the ball at that point being cross bar height).
The problem isn't where he's standing, when it goes past him it's a little over shoulder height. It's that he's knelt down for some unknown reason. The fact it was so quick probably caught him cold, but it's an FA Cup final. You can't go in cold.
Again, he's literally moving backwards as the ball is hit leaving him too little time to react which is likely why he knelt. It's not an easy ball to save given the situation.
DDG would have saved the City goal yesterday 100%
He's not though, he sets himself and then just sort of flops down. He does all this from a totally stationary position just as Gundogan is shaping up for the volley. He's completely set before the ball is struck and starts moving to his left as he flops.
Shame he didn't do it the year before.
Just like he saved City’s second goal in the cup final last year?
He's not though, he sets himself and then just sort of flops down. He does all this from a totally stationary position just as Gundogan is shaping up for the volley. He's completely set before the ball is struck and starts moving to his left as he flops.
Shame he didn't do it the year before.
Christ on a bike. Post the video strawman, it was a volley goal scored in 2 seconds play. You do this micro analysis on Onana this season? He is to blame for 40 goals by the same logic.
Yes, just like that completely different goal
You mean a low shot down to his right, that he got his hand to, but couldn’t keep out?
‘Completely different’
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Christ on a bike. Post the video strawman, it was a volley goal scored in 2 seconds play. You do this micro analysis on Onana this season? He is to blame for 40 goals by the same logic.
I mean, you're literally posting pictures showing him move backwards. In the second picture he has both his feet in the air. From there it's basically impossible for him to save the shot. There's really nothing to discuss here if you at least can't see this.
He's moving backwards after he set himself in the first picture. He does his little setting jump and that landing is when the first picture happens.
You're right he puts himself in no position to save it, but it's not because he was moving backwards. He's already took a back step, stopped, then took a vertical bounce to set his feet and landed again before Gundogan has struck the ball.
ITT: people forget that peak De Gea was quite literally one of the greatest shot stoppers of all time.
Someone'e having fun with de gea's wiki page i see
Who do you think has forgotten that?
the number of people showing him complete disrespect.
I asked who you thought did, I thought it would be clear that I was asking for examples. Sorry for not making that clear. Can you point to the examples that have made you say that?
Just seems like a weird thing to say when it doesn't really look like anyone has forgotten De Gea used to be very good. That's why I asked for an example.Why would I do that?
That's just asking for needless confrontation.
hahahah this thread just keeps giving
Ok, i'm not tagging anyone, I'm just going to copy and paste a message in this thread.
" He was never the 1st or 2nd best goalkeeper in the world at any point, he made some quality saves mostly from shots from distance but has always been useless at penalties and one on ones "
David de gea useless at 1 on 1's eh.
Was expecting something slightly more topical than a single comment from more than half a year ago, but I guess that's my fault.
Are you trying to start an argument or something? You're being very confrontational,
I'm just pointing out it seems people here have forgotten just how good and how much of a legend he has been for us.
You asked for examples, of which there are many, and I gave you one, but apparently it wasn't good enough.
Bit made to slag off De Gea's 1 on 1 ability, possibly the worst penalty saver ever though.
Is he though? Petr Cech was also notoriously bad at them and no big deal was ever made out of it.
Also, i'm digging through the stats now:
De Gea has saved 15.5% of his penalties
Ederson has saved 10.5% of his penalties
Neuer has saved 28% (!!!) of his penalties
Alisson has saved 27% of his penalties (notably, has faced very few compared to most here)
Cech has saved 12.9% of his penalties
Courtois has saved 18.75%
Lloris has saved 9.5% (holy shit, the guy has conceeded 96 penalties https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/hugo-lloris/elfmeterstatistik/spieler/17965)
Ter Stegen has saved 16.4%
Keylor Navas has saved 17.2%
Donarumma has saved 25% of his penalties
Buffon saved 25.8% of his penalties
So, from this data:
Neuer, Ederson, Donarumma, Buffon are much better penalty savers than De Gea
Ter Stegen, Keylor Navas are % error margin but in the same ballpark as De gea at penalties
Cech is slightly worse at penalties
Lloris, Ederson are both much worse, Lloris insanely so.
So, from this we can see De Gea is practically run of the middle penalty saver when compared to the other top class keepers.
Where did the myth that De gea can't save penalties for shit come from?
Stats stats boring stats. All I know is I never ever expected him to save a penalty. The myth as you put it probably comes that.
interesting, I remember quite a few important de gea penalty saves over the years
Off the top of my head; last minute to Everton home and West Ham away. Of course there's more! It doesn't change the feeling that you never fancied him to save penalties. You can't change that feeling with stats, most of us felt it.
If Onana had conceded that first goal he'd definitely be getting blamed on here. It's not going anywhere or travelling at a speed that would require a spectacular save.
I think he misjudges where the shot is going to go and ends up rooted because he can't adjust.
Most people have probably seen you in the Onana thread
Christ on a bike. Post the video strawman, it was a volley goal scored in 2 seconds play. You do this micro analysis on Onana this season? He is to blame for 40 goals by the same logic.
Onana has got blamed for a lot of goals that he couldn't do anything about, so that's quite obvious.
He quite literally moves back like four yards from a second before Gundogan strikes the ball until he finally watches the ball go past him. At that time he no longer has the time to save the shot. If he had the position he ended up from the start, he would have had a good chance of saving the ball. He didn't, and from where he was it was a much harder shot to save.
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They've seen what?Most people have probably seen you in the Onana thread
