Deeney always hammers big penalties down the middle... I was 99% sure he would do it again yesterday.
Feck knows why DDG doesn't know this - or why no one in our coaching staff has bothered to tell him this.
And this is exactly what lumbered us with a past it Rooney as well. If you play for a club like Utd you CAN NOT live off past glories, you have something to prove every single time you put on the shirt, cant hack it any more? Bye bye, off you trot.DeGea has saved us season after season after Fergie's retirement. He was our POTY for 3 years and has been selected in PFA team of year for 5 years.
He makes some mistakes in this season and half of last season and people are saying he is shit.
He's got other much bigger issues these days but his penalty record has always been fecking atrocious.
How he manages to dive the wrong way for every penalty he ever faces is incredible. He's hopeless at them.
Deeney always hammers big penalties down the middle... I was 99% sure he would do it again yesterday.
Feck knows why DDG doesn't know this - or why no one in our coaching staff has bothered to tell him this.
Can he be sold to PSG or somewhere. I like him and appreciate the magical saves he has made but i don't want him to tarnish his legacy and just leave with good memories. If we are looking to play from the back then he is not the keeper we should have.
Deeney always hammers big penalties down the middle... I was 99% sure he would do it again yesterday.
Feck knows why DDG doesn't know this - or why no one in our coaching staff has bothered to tell him this.
He converts about 84,3% of the pens he takes, which isn't exactly bad, yet we're pretending that not saving one is atrocious.
No, in term of % he is the worst in the league.Not really, more or less as expected in terms of %.
Not really, more or less as expected in terms of %.
Some keepers has more than 25% chance to save a penalty, DDG is not fecking half that good. I cant remember the last time he saved a penalty for us in the last 5 years.I think he's conceded his last 17 penalties in a row, plus all 5 against Russia in the World Cup penalty shoot out, so the last 22 penalties he's been up against he's not saved any.
That seems pretty fecking terrible to me.
I know most penalties go in, unless it's Utd taking them, but I dunno. I'd expect a keeper as good as De Gea was to have saved at least one of those 22 penalties in the last 5 years.
Some keepers has more than 25% chance to save a penalty, DDG is not fecking half that good. I cant remember the last time he saved a penalty for us in the last 5 years.
No, in term of % he is the worst in the league.
Yes,Nope.
Yes,
The overall save percentage of the PL is 17,7% from all seasons. But this percentage has changed over last few years with goalkeepers getting better in saving penalties and the last season record high save percentage with 26%.
Where is DDG from this 26% save rate? he less than half that percentage in his entire PL career. 25 penalties he saved only 3 which is 12%. The last penalty he saved for us in the premier league was 5 years, 2 months and 18 days ago. 5 fecking Years. His Penalty save rate in the last 5 years in the premier league is 0%. So please cut the nonsense UncleBob.
Saving penalties is all about psychological warfare. De gea has never been an intimidating keeper. However I think he is still the best in the premier league.can be so shite on penalties. When you're essentially reacting quickly to make an instinctive save.
What I don't get, is how a keeper whose main attribute are his reflexes and instinctive saves can be so shite on penalties. When you're essentially reacting quickly to make an instinctive save.
I used to a decent GK (county standard) but was a smaller keeper with the same weaknesses as DDG (poor from crosses, not great at dominating the box, easily bullied) but was a fantastic shot-stopper. I was bloody quality on penalties. I don't know how DDG can be so terrible from the spot.
How he manages to dive the wrong way for every penalty he ever faces is incredible. He's hopeless at them.
Ok Zidane . The quality of your posts is rich, when you come here and try to tell people something opposite to the common knowledge about De Gea and penalties. You gave no information about how he is within the normal goalkeeper penalty save group.I don't really expect too much from you, given the average quality of your post, but limiting this to the Premier League only in order to construct an argument is daft even by your standard. His overall save % is 19,6, Kepa is at 23,8%, Ederson at 16,6% , Leno at 19,% , Kasper at 25,6 and Alisson at 31%. For Alisson it's important to note that he has barely been involved in penalties, so his one penalty in the PL (Mahrez blasting it over) accounts for 6,25%.
People need to accept the reality that this is not a phase and accept that he is deteriorating. We have seen it in many goalkeepers who rely only on reflexes to defend their goal and have no other goalkeeping qualities. I'm afraid we are stuck with him now, but the good news is we have two good goalkeepers that will eventually take his spot next year.
I was clamouring for us to move on from De Gea when his contract was running down. Partly because he is not the same player he used to be but the main reason is that he is not the kind of keeper we should aspire to have in the modern game.
If you look at best 2 teams in world football (City and Liverpool) both their keepers are terrific with the ball at their feet. They are both more well rounded than our Keeper. Their distribution creates chances out of nothing for their teams. Ederson regularly pummels the football 70+ yards with great accuracy leaving Aguero/Sterling/Sane clean through. If a team much more successful than ours sees the need to have this in their arsenal why shouldn't we?
De Gea's limited ability with his feet is for me a huge drawback, he used to be so much better back in the day with his feet, but now even a simple pass to AWB or Shaw on the flank he can barely manage. If we want to move forward with our style of football and the centre halfs we start prove that we do, (ball players) then we need a keeper who can play out from the back. We need an aggressive front foot keeper who is not afraid to charge from his line and snuff out danger before a striker is left one on one. Basically we need a sweeper keeper.
It will he harder to shift De Gea now he just earned a lucrative new contract but if we could my first choice would be Onana. Even though he might not be a better shot stopper he is way more rounder than the Spaniard and offers a wide range of skills. Including a superior ability to distribute.
Catastrophic mistakes like the one against Watford are only a part of the problem, his inability to be part of a forward thinking play out from back team is the biggest issue going forward and one I'd get rid of him for
I agree, it is not a deal breaker. He has more important flaws in his goalkeeping game than penalty saving.The penalty business is neither here nor there. Certain keepers just don't have it when it comes to pens, and it has little to do with their overall ability. There are several examples of overall brilliant keepers who were no good at pens. One such example would be Van der Sar - an extremely focused and intelligent keeper - whose penalty stats were very underwhelming (worse than De Gea's).
The fact that he's shaky in the area and pretty much non-existent in a "sweeper" capacity, however - well, that's a problem.