He'll be in our top 10 all-time appearances after that contract. He's at 313 currently and 10th place is Joe Spence with 515. His average last 5 years is 47 appearances per season so he'd be at 538 overtaking Denis Irwin and Tony Dunne and one behind Alex Stepney. One season more than the contracted 5 and he'd be sixth ahead of Wayne Rooney.
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Just a few minutes from Madrid a few years ago. Can see him breaking Giggs record...or at least matching Sir Bobby's number.
He'd need to play 10 more years at his current rate of 47 games a season to just about pass Sir Bobby. Probably 11 to be safe. He'd be 38. To pass Giggs he'd have to play until around 42 or 43. I think he'll be at least 3rd.
To calm your nerves ahead of the upcoming league match, I found this wonderful video of Dave's saves during the previous season. It cannot be emphasized how much that fax machine needs to go on display at our trophy cabinet.
Won't come cheap.
Brighton 3:2 Man Utd
Dismal game by his standards, the distribution to Fred with 3 Brighton players converging on him pretty much led to the third goal. Very disappointed that his distribution has been getting worse by the game.
Won't get mentioned much today but he's been terrible so far this season. His decision making and distribution put us under all sorts of pressure and causes panic. That ball to Fred for the 3rd goal was just bad on so many levels. Hospital ball in such a critical area.
Been on really poor form since the World Cup. Sort yourself out Dave, we need you!
That kick to Fred was an absolute joke, by the way.
For a player of his experience it was just stupid.
For a player of his experience it was just stupid.
Some stats floating around about him facing 14 shots and conceding 10 since the start of the World Cup.
Seems unfair to include the World Cup, I just hope it doesn't get in his head.
Seems unfair to include the World Cup, I just hope it doesn't get in his head.
Someday he will have real organisation before him.
Someday.
Someday.
Made some excellent claims for a few crosses, something which he has hopefully been working on. It was surprising, as you usually expect him to stay rooted to his line and anticipate an attempt on goal instead.
But yeah, the kick out that lead to the goal was shite. As a team, we are terrible at resisting the press.
But yeah, the kick out that lead to the goal was shite. As a team, we are terrible at resisting the press.
He's like a holy grail around here, untouchable. Can't point out his weaknesses.
Yes, he is a world class shot-stopper and saved our necks many times. Gratitude for that. But he's terrible at coming out for the ball, has more often than not dodgy distribution, cannot organize the defense and is terrible at pens. If his reflexes decline with age, these weaknesses will start to show.
Everyone says Jose's tactics are outdated for modern football. Well, modern football nowadays requires the GK to do a lot more than just make saves with his hands, though De Gea is exceptional at it.
It got forgotten quickly, but he was actually quite poor (by his high standards) for the first couple of months last season as well.
I hope we are working on his distribution in practice. It's something notable about both De Gea and VDS before him - both were quite good with the ball when they joined us but slowly but surely their comfort on the ball decreased over the years.
I hope we are working on his distribution in practice. It's something notable about both De Gea and VDS before him - both were quite good with the ball when they joined us but slowly but surely their comfort on the ball decreased over the years.
TBF I don't think he had much chance with the first two.
Penalties again....Gross one seemed to be carbon copy of one the Russia penalties. He dives early to his right and it goes through him.
Penalties again....Gross one seemed to be carbon copy of one the Russia penalties. He dives early to his right and it goes through him.
Better if you put that fax machine in goal.
He shpuld just quit keeping penalties, I don't think I ever saw keeper so poor on penalties(probably because I watch him more often than others though).
What if some of that is actually down to him? You cannot expect organised and perfect defence with keeper who won't move off his line.
What if some of that is actually down to him? You cannot expect organised and perfect defence with keeper who won't move off his line.
I thought he could have maybe picked that ball from the corner for the second. It flew right through his area. But, it got lost in that pinball that happened afterwards.
He’s 27 years old.
Was at fault for Brighton's third goal. Should never have gave it to Fred there. That said, the defending after that was comical.
Terrible kick out for the third and then he should have saved the penalty.
He's the least of our problems though.
He's the least of our problems though.
Not his greatest game but he is fecking awesome. Would have thought penalties would be his forte but maybe not getting the luck.
Tie him down long term and build from the back.
Tie him down long term and build from the back.
He's been shite at penalties his entire Utd Career.
Must have saved 3 or 4 his entire time here at most.
How many penalties did Peter Schmeichel save, or VDS for that matter ? Todays penalty was marginal, could've just as easily gone over the bar after hitting his trailing leg.
In terms of stats, as for every penalty it's not the goalkeeper that has the advantage, if the shot is well placed it's physically impossible to save it.
True but I'm surprised a keeper that makes so many reaction reflex saves in six yard boxes can't read a run up from 12 yards.
Some keepers just have a knack of saving penalties...Subasic in the WC and I watched Etheridge for two years at Walsall and he saved 3-4 penalties. 2/2 faced for Cardiff.
Guess the trade off is very few have the all round game DDG has so guess you side with that rather than want a few penalty saves.
I'm not sure what that's got to do with anything?
De Gea is our only consistent World Class player, he's our best player.
He's crap at saving penalties though.
The point is that it's being pointed out as some sort of a weakness in his game, it's not, he's just more or less average at them. Peter the great had, according to transfermarkt, 1 save out of 28, Casillas had 20 out of 90, Kasper Schmeichel who was lauded for his World Cup has 20 out of 71, De Gea has 11 out of 45. Subasic has 17 out of 51.
Fair enough, i haven't bothered to check how many of them are actually penalty saves rather than shots gone wide.
Not to mention that penalties are a shit way to judge goalkeepers, saving one depends a lot on the player taking the penalty as well.
I've said it a few times, but the combination of our dire defending and De Gea's world-class shot-stopping has meant that the focus has been on his strengths for the last few years. Should he have a more average season by his standards or, better still, our defence stops giving away so many good chances, then quite rightly the scrutiny will fall on the more average areas of his game. I'm not the only one who thought Romero was the better goalkeeper in Mou's first season. Penalties aside, I would expect the best keeper in the world to not be so mediocre at leaving his line, claiming crosses, organising his defence, and both distributing the ball through shorter throws and longer kicks. De Gea needs to improve in these aspects to fulfil his potential.
This isn't a reaction to yesterday, as my posting history will attest. By all means, get him signed up to the new contract, but get him a coach who is going to drill the weaker aspects of his game.
This isn't a reaction to yesterday, as my posting history will attest. By all means, get him signed up to the new contract, but get him a coach who is going to drill the weaker aspects of his game.
As you say, I know this is a more general comment and for the most part I agree, but actually thought he was good in the air yesterday when the ball came into the box. It's just a shame Bailly and Lindelof are complete snowflakes when it comes to heading the ball.
DDG seems too honest lol. Doesn't jump early or out very far. Think it's a mentality thing, some keepers look like they'll never be beaten on a penalty. VDS was the same, probably even worse than DDG. He couldn't save a penalty to his left to save his life. It's what Chelsea did in '09 until Anelka fecked it up.
Agree with the kick out. Problem was massively compounded by Bailly's awful tackle though. Had he not dived in, I'd have been confident enough in De Gea to block the shot and atone for the poor kick out. Defenders need to use common sense and realise that Dave is behind them, so there's no need to panic and lunge in like morons when they're unlikely to win the ball.
Good post.
In fairness, you are right. He did come for more than a few crosses that I was pleased with. He needs to continue in that vein and making our penalty area his zone.
You cannot expect we won't concede a lot by hiding on our half and expect De Gea doing impossible saves over and over again.
Let's have a real defensive line first, then you can bitch.
He needs a bit of a wake up call. That's two absolute howlers he's had now that have led to goals in just two games.
I'm sure his distribution was much better under LVG, okay he was mainly tasked with getting it to Fellaini but he was excellent at it, seems to have been getting worse every year since.
Hasn't looked his best since returning from the World Cup.
Has anybody noticed that he ALWAYS dives to his right for penalties? Even the saves he made against van Persie, Lukaku and Baines were to his right.
I find it amazing how few have picked up on this. (Or perhaps they have, which explains his poor record)
I find it amazing how few have picked up on this. (Or perhaps they have, which explains his poor record)
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