This is what he frustrates me the most. I'm sure plenty of people were happy to accept one or two errors at the start of the season, because we knew he would develop into a top goalkeeper eventually. Now though, people seem to have forgotten that he's only going to get better, and instead focus on condemning him.
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This is what he frustrates me the most. I'm sure plenty of people were happy to accept one or two errors at the start of the season, because we knew he would develop into a top goalkeeper eventually. Now though, people seem to have forgotten that he's only going to get better, and instead focus on condemning him.
He played well against Stoke, probably the hardest game of the season when it comes to crosses and physicality in the box. May be that was part of his thinking, and maybe something to do with not playing him in the previous 2 games and the worry of questioning just why he hasn't been playing.
Yeah, that's the frustrating thing about today. It makes De Gea look like he hasn't made any progress when in fact he has. He is strong mentally but rotating keepers is almost unheard of and I feel it's more of a hinderance than an advantage, all of his momentum has been taken away and to those outside it appears we're back at square one.
I agree, SAF has done neither any favours though, he needs to stick with one of them.
Fergie needs to take some of the blame for constantly rotating the keepers when there was no need to. De Gea was playing very well and then gets 'rested' for a few games and his confidence looked to have suffered. Fergie needs to pick a keeper to be the #1 for the remainder of the season.
Exactly, now we find a predicament where Fergie either sticks with the big money youngster or the unproven 27 year old who has done nothing wrong when he's came into the side.
Step back for him today, no doubt. The self-belief and absence of nerves that we're told mark him as a special talent were not evident today. He's a young lad and full of promise, but this will shake him, I fear.
That's a fair point.
We need to make a decision and stick by it. De Gea has one thing in his favour and that's that he's been in and out of the side.
It's like a Howard-Carroll scenario again.
Lindegaard seems to cope better with being the rotation and coming in and out of the side.
De Gea was going through a really top quality run, and then we started rotating heavily. No top side messes around with the keeper.
That's a good point. We also don't want it to turn into a situation like Foster / Kuszczak where Kuszczak was playing better but Foster gets the games as he was meant to be the successor to Edwin.
I know that. We're in a strange situation now. I can see Lindegaard getting a run of games and not sure what that means for De Gea.
Indeed. He's 20 and he's playing in a new country, a more physical league. Frankly, if nobody saw this coming, they were kidding themselves. The good part however is that, at 20, these are one of the few chinks in his armor and thankfully, one of those that can be rectified in due time.
Im all about having competition in every position but for the man at the back who,although he plays for the team,is his own man and, someone who has the most pressure mentally. To be faffing around with the keepers in the league when its unjustified as both lindegaard and De Gea ARE world class, just adds to the mind games. With a decent run of games a keeper can gain confidence. I think Sir should take some of the blame.
Yep.
De Gea shouldn't be given preferential treatment just because we originally envisaged him being number one.
I think Lindegaard has surprised everyone with how good a keeper he is. In the context of how strong he is, I don't think it's unreasonable to say he should be number one.
The big thing about De Gea is his kicking, which is excellent in fairness. But Lindegaard is no slouch in that regard.
The thing is SAF has dropped keepers at unneccessary times, De Gea was flying then he was dropped and now Lindegaard was flying and he was dropped. Obviously now the perception is rightly Lindegaard should be numero uno but SAF hasn't handled it well at all.
Exactly. I'm just a bit worried in how Fergie will handle this one. It's a sticky situation now unless you see otherwise?
As i said the other day, you just don't spend 18 million on a keeper for him to sit on the bench and now we have a situation where this is going to be the most likely scenario because of a silly rotation policy in a position that needs stability.
This. And that is what's worrying me. Whatever Fergie had in store, it's backfiring.
He's only young and has shown plenty of signs of being a great keeper. Just not sure that he's ready yet. Fergie may well have a lot of faith in him, but does the defence? If they don't then the back four is unsettled and nervous, which can lead to mistakes from them even if there are none from DDG.
If Sir Alex still sees De Gea as the current number 1 then, despite his mistake today, he deserves to be given a run of games.
You could argue does De Gea have any confidence in the defence? Granted there were a lot of injuries but the defence did not help De Gea at all today.
You could argue does De Gea have any confidence in the defence? Granted there were a lot of injuries but the defence did not help De Gea at all today.
Our defence misses the presence of Vidic and Rio's leadership, having one of them out isn't ideal but having both of them out as well as Smalling and Evans has left us very vulnerable at the back. We need Rio to be fit for the rest of the season if we want to win the league.
Nothing that hasn't been pointed out. Disappointing and has cost us today. Made more mistakes so far than PIG has in his entire United career
Defended him all season but that was pathetic...he cost us the points for sure. Every cross that comes in he goes to the ground and waits for the ref to blow.
PIG made about 10 mistakes away at Blackburn last year so that's a lie.
Young keeper... will make mistakes... particularly when he has a defence in front of him like the one he had today.
Should have done better with the cross but overall I think he's been fine this season bar the odd mistake, which, as I say is to be expected given his age.
He has the potential to be a top keeper. Its pointless getting on his back every time he makes a mistake.
Should have done better with the cross but overall I think he's been fine this season bar the odd mistake, which, as I say is to be expected given his age.
He has the potential to be a top keeper. Its pointless getting on his back every time he makes a mistake.
this ^^
he has to improve his strength and dealing with crosses and the boy will be a very good keeper.
I remember it happening once when he got an arm in the face, I don't think you can really blame him for going to ground there. He did feck up for Blackburn's winning goal, but I think he's getting more criticism than he deserves. As fas I'm concerned, goals one and two for Blackburn were down to us missing so many defenders - Berbatov marking Samba at set pieces is just silly, and Carrick made an arse of dealing with Yakubu for their second. Neither Carrick nor Berbatov were ideal choices for those tasks though, so what can you do?
Hes too used to the protection keepers get in Spain. In England the refs (correctly imo) dont reward a keeper crashing into a player whos standing still with a cheap free kick.
One thing that puzzled me was for the penalty, something like 7 out of the Yaks last 8 pens went to the keepers right (ESPN flashed it up), so I fully expected De Gea to dive to his right but he went left and what d'ya know, Yak went right.
Not really a criticism but it did make me wonder about the research we'd done on him.
Not really a criticism but it did make me wonder about the research we'd done on him.
You're right. We all knew (and accepted) that by bringing in a young inexperienced goalkeeper from abroad he will make mistakes. Hopefully Fergie will protect him like he protected/protects other young players. The media can be extremely harsh and cruel at times. Also a good thing De Gea isn't reading the Caf.
No he didn't
I know he didn't, I was exaggerating just like you have no way to prove De Gea's made more errors than PIG ever has. Put it this way though, PIG managed to play himself out of potential shot for number one in that match and I've never been as worried with De Gea in between the sticks as I was for those 90 mins.
As the ReCafe cliche says he really needs to bulk up.Gets bullied to easily in the box.
It's not easy for David to bulk up if you have the likes of Anderson and Rooney eating all the pieces. Just ask Fletcher.
Same old apologists. Simples, nothing to do with his young age, or his price tag, or his experience ... he\s just not good enough at this point ...
It was obvious right from the start.
It was obvious right from the start.
Yeah we should have got Craig Gordon instead.
Yes, lets only give chances to players who are already the finished article from now on. Thats really what United is all about.
That's very true.
Some of you don't exactly cover yourself in glory do you. I find that in general, this forum has more clueless than any others I bother with.
He's not ready yet (may never be) to be the keeper for a team that aspires to be the best there is.
I know some of you are absolutely seething.
He's not ready yet (may never be) to be the keeper for a team that aspires to be the best there is.
I know some of you are absolutely seething.
the only problem I have is when De Gea is on the team sheet I think...hmmmm whose coming out today, whereas with Lindegaard i always feel sort of secure. Not sure why, just feel that. Wish I didn't but I do...
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