De Gea plays tough fixtures while Lindegaard player cannon fodder. Honestly, i'd like to have seen how Anders would have dealt with today, because it would be the first time he's actually been tested at United.
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De Gea plays tough fixtures while Lindegaard player cannon fodder. Honestly, i'd like to have seen how Anders would have dealt with today, because it would be the first time he's actually been tested at United.
I never said he will never be good enough, nor did I say we should get rid - the potential for a top class keeper is there for everyone to see. But there's just no denying he isn't good enough right now, he lacks both physicality (can be addressed but will take time) and concentration (not so easy to change). It's not unreasonable for me to suggest that a keeper playing for Manchester United should gather that with ease, and should also save the second goal. Looking back over the season, it's quite frightening how many costly errors he's made. I feel sorry for the lad and I'm sure of you looked back at my previous posts, I'm one of his main apologists on here, i always felt he had something special and deserved a bit of patience. But there comes a time when enough is enough and that time is now.
IMO he needs a lengthy spell away from the team to bulk up a bit, grow a pair and improve the aspects of his game that are so clearly lacking.
I'd say he's not playing as well as he did for Atletico and I still wonder if that's because we're mid-transition in terms of teaching him to do the job in a different way to the one he was brought up with.
Now I love De Gea dearly, I was one of those absolutely convinced that he should be United's next keeper and I still believe that.
But I said back in August that he looks like he's thinking about everything at the moment. As if he's got the United coach's words ringing in his ears every time he moves. I'm seeing his instincts fighting what he's being told to do and it's making him look indecisive.
If we want him to be great next year, then it's probably necessary and inevitable for him to go through this phase. If we want him, right now, to be as good for us as he was for Atletico we might be better off telling him to go back to trusting his judgement and forgetting other people's.
Now I love De Gea dearly, I was one of those absolutely convinced that he should be United's next keeper and I still believe that.
But I said back in August that he looks like he's thinking about everything at the moment. As if he's got the United coach's words ringing in his ears every time he moves. I'm seeing his instincts fighting what he's being told to do and it's making him look indecisive.
If we want him to be great next year, then it's probably necessary and inevitable for him to go through this phase. If we want him, right now, to be as good for us as he was for Atletico we might be better off telling him to go back to trusting his judgement and forgetting other people's.
Blackburn isnt cannon fodder?
Playing Blackburn at home, the worst team in the league, with half their team out injured, is not a 'tough fixture', far from it. It's the easiest league game we will play all season.
I believe no professional decent keeper has had more bad games than good ones.
DDG might be potentially good but Lindegaard is better right now and we can't afford to lose points hoping DDG will be our Number 1 in few years time.
He has rarely looked assured for corners and no doubt a very good shot stopper.
So? We can discuss his mistake. I have no problem with that. However, I dont feel it's right to say he's the sole reason we lost today. That's what I was addressing. calm down
Was awful today. As were the defence in front of him. Lindgaard was the winner today.
He wasn't the main reason but we were 2-2 and baring such spastic goalkeeping were on course to win it.
That just killed us.
Dont think anyone said he was the sole reason but he certainly had a big hand (or lack of a hand) in us losing the game today.
And at least he was playing in his favoured position
Bollocks - we played too little football in the firsthalf and we missed too many chances in the second. That killed us.
DDG first few games of the season for us was wobbly, then he improved from then on, but the last 2 games he appeared back to the form he was in the first few games.
He didn't look like one when he was on the verge of tears after Blackburn scored the third!
Tears of joy perhaps?
I agree. It would be harsh if Lindegaard doesn't get a look in.
I dunno but DDG gives me the look of a sleepy/dreamy face. His small frame also does not help.
I think Lindegaard's face around 85 minutes summed up his emotions. He should get some time.
He needs to bulk up. Will make a huge difference when he comes for crosses or corners.
I genuinely think he's one of the most talented keepers around, he's just got one big flaw in his game thst he needs to sort out. Lindegaard deserves to be number 1 as he's much more comfortable at the minute but De Gea is ultra talented. Tough call for Frogie.
Regardless of where they're placed, they're still a tough team and we have serious issues in defense and central midfield. The Liverpool game would have brought great confidence to their back four and they don't have that big of an issue scoring goals. Of course in all of this, if mistakes were not made by other players, De Gea doesn't let in 2 out of 3.
If you really want to lay blame, you could probably direct it at Berbatov's foul that brought about the first goal and gave Blackburn confidence. But he recovered it with two goals. We potentially lost a point here because of De Gea, but we picked up a point at Anefiled because of De Gea. Swings and roundabouts.
I just think he needs to go for it. Every ball, every cross, be assured, just dive for it, jump high, get a good hand on a shot, use his body, make himself big.
Show me one post where someone said he was the sole reason we lost today.
was a terrible mistake to make when it was at 2-2 and we were having the momentum to try and score the winning goal, it just killed off our spirit and deflated us.
Ya but it doesn't help if you get outmuscled either. That challenge between him and Hanley was fair but guess who lost out on that battle.
I think he will be our number 1 but he really just needs to put hours in the gym and to work on crosses and communication. He even said himself that he's learned more in 3-4 months with United than in his whole career in Spain.
No, we weren't on course to win it. I just don't get the attitude of some people who think its a god given right that United should win every game before they are played, during the game or whenever. We went 2-0 down and were lucky to get back into it and barring a ten minute spell we looked devoid of any creativity. Yes the 3rd goal killed us but it was 2-2 and Blackburn could have still nicked it regardless of the mistake by De Gea.
He definitely needs to take a look at himself after the second and third goals today; he's been nut-megged now quite a few times from goals and maybe needs to sort his feet out. The third highlighted his most obvious fault at the moment, his presence in the air. But he's young, and he's learning, and we knew that if we played him a lot in his first season or two he's going to make mistakes. Add to the fact he had a distinctly weakened defence in front of him, which wouldn't help at all. However, I would like to make one plug for him with regards to his distribution which, yet again today, I felt was top class. Some of his passes out to Valencia in particular.
He needs work... but then we knew that already?!
He needs work... but then we knew that already?!
Okay no one went that far but I did feel some of the comments were a bit unfair. Yes, he was poor today. However saying he's the one that's costing us points is a bit harsh. It was a terrible mistake but as a team, we did ourselves no favors today.
Even though we went a goal down when Berbatov fouled Samba, it's just a coincidence that De Gea happened to be the keeper.
You appear to be ignoring all those mistakes he keeps making.
I'm talking about today's game when the poster said we concede goals when De Gea plays, when the first goal was unavoidable from his point of view, as was the 2nd.
I do think he could have come out and made himself big for the 2nd goal, he didn't look very confident at all today and as someone has said it looks like he is battling his instincts.
An inability to catch is a severe impediment to being a goalkeeper.
His attempted catch for their winner was slapstick stuff.
Using some Scouse Maths now, we should stick Lindegaard in and say that we got ourselves a quality number one for £21m - combined cost of him and DDG.
His attempted catch for their winner was slapstick stuff.
Using some Scouse Maths now, we should stick Lindegaard in and say that we got ourselves a quality number one for £21m - combined cost of him and DDG.
De Gea will come good, he's only 20.
So we have ruled out improvement from him totally then?
He needs to bulk up and grow a pair. A GK should be going for the ball and clearing out everything in his path.
The confidence issue is surely down to the rotation of the keepers. He was beginning to look settled and didn't let things bother him then Lindegaard gets games. I understand rotation but for a goalkeeper we spent 18 million on and to drop him for every 2nd or 3rd game just doesn't bode well.
I told one of my mates this is the price you pay by putting your faith in youth. The hope is that at some point they repay you. I'm confident De Gea will do that.
That's what I'm wondering too.
I don't deny that. But in the here and now Lindegaard is the superior goalie. And not just by default - he's a fecking quality keeper.
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