our defence is more to blame than De Gea, Smalling and Evra in particular were both woeful.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Good to see the big sneezy sticking up for a fellow youngster.
Playing as a number #1 goalie for a team that is not expected to win anything, compared to playing with a side that is probably the biggest in the world is a whole new ballgame.
Then consider the fact that he's a young foreigner that doesn't speak the language, who went for a lot of cashmoney (because he's worth it) which no doubt has put internal pressure (from himself) on him... Then there's the fact he's immediately taken over from one of the most reliable and best keepers in this last generation and you've got SO many reasons why he should be given time to adapt. It's ludicrous to think people are questioning him, and 'expecting' more from him when he's got fecking another dozen years before he even hits his peak.
Ludicrous, and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
Playing as a number #1 goalie for a team that is not expected to win anything, compared to playing with a side that is probably the biggest in the world is a whole new ballgame.
Then consider the fact that he's a young foreigner that doesn't speak the language, who went for a lot of cashmoney (because he's worth it) which no doubt has put internal pressure (from himself) on him... Then there's the fact he's immediately taken over from one of the most reliable and best keepers in this last generation and you've got SO many reasons why he should be given time to adapt. It's ludicrous to think people are questioning him, and 'expecting' more from him when he's got fecking another dozen years before he even hits his peak.
Ludicrous, and anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
According to Danny Mills and Mark Lawrenson he's gotten worse since he joined us and is making mistakes every game 
De Gea seems to attract a very specific kind of knee jerking retard.
Listening to 5 Live from last night made me shout like a maniac at my car radio. Apparently the entire team is a joke and De Gea will never be good enough and Fergah (as one deluded cnut called him) should be sacked if he doesn't buy players in January
De Gea seems to attract a very specific kind of knee jerking retard.
Listening to 5 Live from last night made me shout like a maniac at my car radio. Apparently the entire team is a joke and De Gea will never be good enough and Fergah (as one deluded cnut called him) should be sacked if he doesn't buy players in January
GK will always make the odd mistake. It is how they react to it that prove the difference.
It will be a test of his mental character tonight after the blunder in midweek, if he plays. He need to put in a strong performance.
It will be a test of his mental character tonight after the blunder in midweek, if he plays. He need to put in a strong performance.
Okay okay every pundit says he's shit.
IMO he wasn't at fault for anything against Basel, he was only unlucky for the first goal.
But hey it's only important that the club (Boss, coaches, team-mates and fans) are backing him!!!!
I think he should've caught the ball rather than try to block it with his foot, in the given situation blocking it gave absolutely no reassurance of safety. Blocking the ball when the box is crowded isn't good goalkeeping.
So basicly.."De Gea is not good enough. Solution: Buy creative players" ? How is it possible to say that he had a poor performance vs Basel though? He had one sloppy clearance and his save on the first goal was due to poor positioning from our defenders. Top save on that FK, and didnt have much to do the rest of the game
And on Sky there was a fair bit of criticism towards him today too. It's ridiculous. As I said in another thread, only his bad moments are really mentioned. When he performs well it's rarely recognised by pundits and the media. He's performing better than most give him credit for. His confidence is increasing and you can see him improving in some areas that he looked shaky in when he came here (can be very tough moving to a new country especially when you play in the position he does and doesn't know the language which can be a problem when needing to communicate with the defence).
He has made one or two mistakes lately, it's natural and I won't pretend that he hasn't. Before that though he went through a decent run of making no mistakes at all and making some great saves which weren't really highlighted.
As you say, it's important that the club are backing him, but it'd help if the media recognise his good performances instead of jumping on the "De Gea is poor" bandwagon.
He's such an easy target, isn't he? Probably top on the list of every pundit when he comes to talk about United.
What does Savage know about goalkeeping? Did he even talk about what was poor or just say he's poor? Basically the media and pundits are like parents watching their kids play. 'Why did he do that? He should just use his hands!' (Tame version). From my days as a ref, I heard much worse.
It's the same thing when you hear the term 'last man' when there's nothing about it in the rule book. They act like they know what they're talking about but the majority of them dont.
It's just poor from the media but it won't change for a bit. He'll be fine. Never seemed to be someone bothered by what the media says anyway.
Danny Mills giving it his usual nonsense on the radio just as we kicked off.
'as the wolves players were warming up they were having some shooting practice, perhaps with DDG in goal they've seen, as we all have, a big weakness in this united side'.
I hope he falls off the gantry.
'as the wolves players were warming up they were having some shooting practice, perhaps with DDG in goal they've seen, as we all have, a big weakness in this united side'.
I hope he falls off the gantry.
Most football pundits are fecking clueless.
I mean, why do the research on De Gea's recent performances when you can base your judgement on MOTD highlights you saw 3 months ago?
I mean, why do the research on De Gea's recent performances when you can base your judgement on MOTD highlights you saw 3 months ago?
He had nothing to do that half but I still counted 3 errors. Dont know why everyone is being so protective over him.
Ugh
Commentator for that punch at the end of the half goes on about how flaky de Gea was.
Rooney's goal past Hennesey? Oh well done Wayne for catching the keeper off guard.
Commentator for that punch at the end of the half goes on about how flaky de Gea was.
Rooney's goal past Hennesey? Oh well done Wayne for catching the keeper off guard.
He's been brought up to punch when the ball is in the air, that's the modus operandi for continental keepers, we'll hammer it out of him. He's not perfect but for his age he's a fabulous keeper with great mental strength.
Ugh
Commentator for that punch at the end of the half goes on about how flaky de Gea was.
Rooney's goal past Hennesey? Oh well done Wayne for catching the keeper off guard.
Disgusting bias indeed.DDG has to improve on that decision making but it was hardly a huge mistake, pundits criticize for the sake of it
Some utter fecking shite being spewed by cnuts like Mills, Savage and Brian Little. I'm sure De Gea will be hurt by comments by no marks of that caliber.
The better he seem to be at commanding the area, the worse he seems to be at kicking the ball.. Love the man, but he does seems to be worse with his feet then when he arrived, isnt he?
You lads are funny. Of course a new £20m very young keeper is going to be in the spotlight.
Just accept that many see him at this moment of time as a weakness
Just accept that many see him at this moment of time as a weakness
Could someone PM me a stream that won't keep freezing and buffering.
Not having much luck with a few so far.
Not having much luck with a few so far.
It's pathetic, on the BBC Sports website it said 'under fire United keeper David De Gea'
I was thinking, 'eh, under fire?'
He's making the mistakes that we know he will as a new young learning keeper, he's not about to get sacked or released from his contract.
Yeah, people who don't watch him every week.
People seem to forget De Gea's age and lack of experience in English football. If we get behind him I'm sure he will deliver in the years to come.
I think he has a heck of a lot to learn and has enormous potential at the same time.
I think he has a heck of a lot to learn and has enormous potential at the same time.
If de Gea allowed a goal similar to either that beat Hennessey in the first half, he'd be accused of being 'slow to react' or 'vulnerable'.
I watch them every week. And I do worry about him
Van Der Sar's last three seasons with us have left us spoiled to be fair - I remember in 06/07 he went though a punching the ball back into play dangerously phase that cost us in consecutive games, and in 07/08 he turned in a heart attack inducing flappy performance at Anfield.
Well, I don't.
Errors were expected. What's unfair on him is the constant criticism of him while ignoring the good things he's done...I don't hear the media harping on about Reina's feck ups constantly.
The commentator tried to put the blame on him for the goal, saying he should've came out to claim it or at least punch it. Not a chance he would've got there, but doesn't stop the commentator blaming him.
Yet I didn't hear the commentators jump on him.
Yep that's why he has been voted as the player of the month at manutd.com for November.
The goal was a brilliant header - back across the goal - unstoppable.
He did an excellent save low down to his left against Jarvis.
His one error was his punch that went straight to a Wolves player.
The issue about catching vs punching is not clear cut. If you set yourself up to punch rather than catch then in fact you can be more aggressive at coming out quick. Watch how far De Gea came for the punch he came a far distance the reason he coud do that was he didnt need to adjust his body shape and position when he jumped to catch the ball he simply needed to connect with the ball.
When you are schooled to catch the ball more often then you tend to be more conservative in your play as you have to set yourself up differently.
Once you decide whether you will catch or punch you will not change your mind as a GK because it would require an adjustment that you cant do once you are committed to the decision you have made.
He did an excellent save low down to his left against Jarvis.
His one error was his punch that went straight to a Wolves player.
The issue about catching vs punching is not clear cut. If you set yourself up to punch rather than catch then in fact you can be more aggressive at coming out quick. Watch how far De Gea came for the punch he came a far distance the reason he coud do that was he didnt need to adjust his body shape and position when he jumped to catch the ball he simply needed to connect with the ball.
When you are schooled to catch the ball more often then you tend to be more conservative in your play as you have to set yourself up differently.
Once you decide whether you will catch or punch you will not change your mind as a GK because it would require an adjustment that you cant do once you are committed to the decision you have made.
the way I judge is...'do I get nervous when I see him come for a cross or a catch'
answer is no.
his mistakes if any surprise me.
He is going to be a solid goalie for us.
he is still so young.
answer is no.
his mistakes if any surprise me.
He is going to be a solid goalie for us.
he is still so young.
VDS cost us also 2 points at home against Wigan. But he saved our asses countless times. And the same goes for DDG. He's been doing well and can only get better. He improved already massively and in a few years he will be world class.
Some of you might have preferred Given...
Yep. It was one of those goals which was very simple, but you look at it from our point of view and I can't see anything any of our players did wrong. It was a great cross onto the head of a player who was significantly taller and with the jumping advantage over our defender, and the header then went right into the corner.
Agreed. The problem wasn't that he decided to punch it. The problem was that it came off the side of his glove and went straight down the middle of the field, instead of coming off the front of his fist and going out wide where I'm sure he was intending.
First couple of games with us I was deeply concerned over him. Now having seen him week in week out I accept he may make the odd minor mistakes but other than that I am more than comfortable with him. I just like his mentality, he's got the psychological aspects that you need to be an United keeper.
His punches may not be the best decisions and I remember in the Basel game one of the commentators took exception to one, one that I thought was actually a rather good punch, but he's definitely come on since the start of the season. Anyone else remember West Brom? He got a few good clatterings and was dominated in the air and the same happened in a few proceeding games too, I believe against Stoke I think it was (I can't remember properly now) he didn't even come for crosses but now look at him, he's confidently coming out and winning the ball. All he needs to do is work on catching it more than punching it and he'll be one of the top keepers before anyone knows it.
Yep his decision to punch was correct. As was his body shape ie legs tucked in protecthing his middle and jumping high and not reaching with his arms. he's learning.
Has he put on weight? Looks less wiry.
Spanish goalkeepers are coached to punch out as a preferred option. Give the lad a season to adjust. I do agree with a poster above who noted his distribution has deteriorated over the last few months.
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