David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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That save from Don Hutchison...my word. Over 20 years ago and still one of the best ever.
Anyway, don't really like comparing two players I like as when you favour one side, trying to justify your position makes it look like you don't like the other.
Imagine many are the same re this DDG v Schmikes debate.
Let's just enjoy watching him develop and celebrate the fact SAF's decision to go for him over all others to replace VDS looks like it's going to pay off spectacularly.
 
Did we ever have any competition for signing Schmeichel?. Did we sign him before or after that Euro tournament? As surely people would have stood up and taken notice of that performance.

It always amazes me that we signed him for such a small amount.

To say that people are even comparing DDG with big Pete is always a compliment. Ok he is not quite at his standard YET, but potentially he could be just as important to us.
 
Gazza said:
Making good use of the caf's new Keep Digging feature, Ruud10? :)
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Yeah, I just noticed the feature where you can see who's replied to your posts. I'm sure there are dozens of other features I absolutely know nothing about, such as how to search a particular poster's posts, searching under a search term, probably a date as well and all kinds of other crazy shit. But fukk me if I can't figure out how to log in without having to type in "ruud10" and my password manually every single time! I've never had this problem on any other site.

Responding to a number of posts in post here, we all agree Schmikes is one of the greatest keepers of all time, and that there was no weakness in his game whatsoever. Shot-stopping, handling crosses, distribution and organizing the defense -- all outstanding. (Although it seems to me he left us a season or two before he should have -- did he not go to City?) De Gea, still a relative toddler for a keeper at the age of 22, comes up short compared to Schmikes in all those areas with the exception of shot-stopping. I don't recall anyone here arguing that Schmikes, at his peak, was actually better than De Gea, today, as a shot-stopper -- just that he was as good. But Schmikes, crazy insane he was, just didn't have the physical or mental quickness De Gea has now and IMHO would never, ever have gotten to Mata's free kick and would never have been able to make that legendary kick save against Real and probably would never have made the toe save against Mata. Reasonable minds may disagree and I'm okay with that.

We can move on. Have we ever gotten to the bottom of how De Gea barely edges Ben Foster in that bizarre Bloomberg player ranking?
 
AKDevil said:
That save from Don Hutchison...my word. Over 20 years ago and still one of the best ever.
Anyway, don't really like comparing two players I like as when you favour one side, trying to justify your position makes it look like you don't like the other.
Imagine many are the same re this DDG v Schmikes debate.
Let's just enjoy watching him develop and celebrate the fact SAF's decision to go for him over all others to replace VDS looks like it's going to pay off spectacularly.
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That Hutchinson save was unreal. This, even better.

 
Ruud10 said:
I don't recall anyone here arguing that Schmikes, at his peak, was actually better than De Gea, today, as a shot-stopper -- just that he was as good.
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Schmeichel at his best in the early 90's was better than De Gea.
 
Dion said:
Schmeichel at his best in the early 90's was better than De Gea.
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I should hope so, as Schmikes at that stage in his career, at his very peak of course, was 8 years older than De Gea is now. The fair comparison is between De Gea now and Schmikes when he played for Hvidovre, three time champion of the Danish league.
 
Ruud10 said:
I should hope so, as Schmikes at that stage in his career, at his very peak of course, was 8 years older than De Gea is now. The fair comparison is between De Gea now and Schmikes when he played for Hvidovre, three time champion of the Danish league.
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Look at the bit I quoted, you'll see I wasn't talking about as an overall goalkeeper (that doesn't need saying).
 
hahaha quick somebody ask him to make Thaigo sign!
 
Kid Cunto said:
Barcelona have allegedly made a move for Inter's 'keeper Handanovič, for those worried they'd be sniffing around de Gea.
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Read that too somewhere, not that reliable a source though as far as I remember.
Would be good for all parties considered bar Inter, but I think their owner was very decisive in saying they won't sell "Sarma".

Not that I'm worried of De Gea going to Barca, he'll either remain here for the rest of his carreer or go back to Atletico Madrid when he's over 32-33 excluding freak scenarios which would have to be sparked by a lot of controversy.

Barca would get a much, much better keeper than Valdes though if they managed to sign Handanovič, he's not well known (especialy on here) because he's from a small country (you guessed it, Slovenia) and up to last year was playing for "only" Udinese. He was one of this year's only bright parts of the season for Inter and contrary to popular belief he has mostly been on par or outperformed Buffon the past 2-3 seasons, comments from Zola and others can back that claim up. And yeah it's not the best Buffon he's competing with right now but that's still a massive complement to get.

And in my honest opinion, De Gea has enough potential to become one of the best goalkeepers in the world (not just talking about for a season or two)
 
De Gea won't be leaving us this year for sure. Maybe he might be tempted in the future but by then Barca could already have a very good and settled keeper.
 
Dave seems to be very settled at United now, he won't be leaving for a long time. (Hopefully not at all)
 
I think he switched off for the second goal - it's a shot he would have expected to save.
 
I think it took a deflection although the commentators didn't mention it.
 
The amazing part about De Gea is the fact that modern balls are designed to screw around with the keepers to encourage more attacking plays and he's not been made to look like a fool. People keep harping on the fact that he doesn't catch the ball much compared to the top keepers in previous generations, but I'm sure they'll agree that punching the ball away now is much more justified than before.
 
elmo said:
The amazing part about De Gea is the fact that modern balls are designed to screw around with the keepers to encourage more attacking plays and he's not been made to look like a fool. People keep harping on the fact that he doesn't catch the ball much compared to the top keepers in previous generations, but I'm sure they'll agree that punching the ball away now is much more justified than before.
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GK who are taight to punch the ball instead of catching are more aggressive in coming out quick as their intention is to deflect via a punch or fist the ball away - this gives you greater scope to attack balls which you would never be able to catch.
 
If he only learned to deal with crosses as well as he deals with our signings, we would have a proper keeper on our hands.

Joking, obviously
 
marjen said:
At least he's working through the summer.

Unlike Moyes.
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I've noticed a few people say this (or similar). Have I missed some kind of in joke or are they serious digs?
 
They're jokes based on the digs from some people...I'm not sure whether that post is sincere though.
 
Yeh don't think there's much he could do with the 2nd goal. Good strike that took a deflection which kept the ball low.

He didn't cover himself in glory with the first one though. Was in no-mans land. It went from back to front very quickly which is probably why but he hesitated big time which made the forward's mind up.
 
Carl said:
I've noticed a few people say this (or similar). Have I missed some kind of in joke or are they serious digs?
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I think it's because Moyes is on holiday without going signing Thiago/Ronaldo right away, while De Gea is doing all he can to bring Thiago in.
 
just realized De Gea hasn't had any rest for quite sometime now. summer 2011 he was at the u-21 euros, then last year for the London summer Olympics, and this summer the u-21 euros again. next year's summer he could be part of the Spanish World Cup squad too. that's 4 years without much break.
 
ricky-romeo said:
just realized De Gea hasn't had any rest for quite sometime now. summer 2011 he was at the u-21 euros, then last year for the London summer Olympics, and this summer the u-21 euros again. next year's summer he could be part of the Spanish World Cup squad too. that's 4 years without much break.
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Standing between the sticks for 65% of a game must get pretty tiring.
 
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