Unreal criticism this. Seriously. It was a good save.
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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I'm going to put this very simply for you Kietotheworld, and hope you grasp what I'm saying.
Stop talking out of your arsehole, you monumental fecktard.
Stop talking out of your arsehole, you monumental fecktard.
You need to come to terms with the fact that not everyone rates players the same as you do without reacting like an angry teenager.
I cba to read the posts back, but seriously, if anyone is blaming DDG for today's goal they can feck right off. If you blame him for today's goal you are a fecking idiot.
Every goal we concede, you just know someone, somehow, will find a way to pin the blame on DDG. Its getting very very boring now.
Every goal we concede, you just know someone, somehow, will find a way to pin the blame on DDG. Its getting very very boring now.
Its not an issue of rating players here, its your criticism of DDG for his part in the goal today, now your entitled to your opinion but your opinion is wrong, i would bet your the only person on this forum who thinks he could have done better. You need to watch it again
You need to stop acting like you're Anders Lindegaard's girlfriend when you talk about De Gea. Not rating him is one thing, you're allowed to rate or not rate who you want, just try not inventing mistakes to try and prove you're right to not rate him.
And stop being a monumental fecktard.
Well, had he parried it to either side we would have kept a clean sheet. I dont think he is to blame, but he could have done better.
Regardless of whether or not my opinion on De Gea is popular, abusive comments like that are completely unnecessary.
Lindegaard has nothing to do with this, I don't think he would necessarily have done any better, either today or over the last few games.
It's not as simple as mistake or not mistake, there are some shades of grey, where it's not directly a mistake but a goalkeeper could have done better. I'm not sure why this makes you so angry.
unnecessary but funny
If you're a bit simple or haven't grown out of thinking swearing is cool, sure. If you're interested in a serious football discussion then it's just disruptive.
You know nothing about football.
The newbs would probably be embarrassed by this.
Hide the mains, show the newbs!
Hide the mains, show the newbs!
My first reaction was that DDG might perhaps have done better with the first effort, but as soon as I saw the replay it was obvious that he had no choice whatsoever as to where to parry the ball to; it was a decent save which Michu got lucky on.
Only a fecking retard of the very utmost of calibre would think a goalkeeper would have options to consider in those circumstances; at such short range and at power, all any keeper can do is make the save and hope for the best.
It was another flawless performance from DDG. Kietotheworld is a fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
Only a fecking retard of the very utmost of calibre would think a goalkeeper would have options to consider in those circumstances; at such short range and at power, all any keeper can do is make the save and hope for the best.
It was another flawless performance from DDG. Kietotheworld is a fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.
It's a shame people can't have a sensible discussion about this guy without being mindlessly abusive.
This isn't a sensible discussion.
I can understand where you are coming from, but tbh your presence in this thread precedes you even for a newbie who has just made the step up. I'm more than happy to discuss it.
He would have punched it back where it came from if it was straight into his midrift. To parry across goal, with the shot slightly to his right at chest height, he would have had to open his body up. If he tries to force it, he could end up parrying it into his own net. It looks soft, but that doesn't mean he is in any way to blame. It is one of those where that is the most he can do without having the chance back and he can only hope someone will sweep up after him. For me it is too straight to free his arms to punch clear and even then it could hit someone and bounce in.
You clearly haven't met Maroonpondlife and goldenballs. I'm baffled they haven't joined in yet.
It was a point blank shot. It's not like his intentions were to parry it in Michu feet...
Kietotheworld does get too much stick for having a different opinion though. The guy stays polite while everyone's on his case and calling him names, you have to give him credit for that.
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It's not so much to blame, he could have done better though. He parries the ball a lot and it often seems as much a matter of luck as judgement where it goes. It's obviously difficult to direct where you're parrying it as a goalkeeper, but it's certainly not impossible to give it a vague direction when there are a good 5 yards between you and the shot.
It surprises me that the people who genuinely rate him as a world class goalkeeper don't expect a little more of him.
It's a bad area to parry to regardless.
Thank you.
You're a very witty guy.
As a GK. The first thing De Gea did was position himself and set himself up to cover his near post and a high drilled shot. That left the right hand side of the goal available - ie a shot across the keeper.
There were tow factors to this shot - the placement and the power. The shot was not placed that well - it was within De Gea reach but it was well struck.
Because it was well struck De Gea could not palm it away - he had to stop the ball and then hope his defenders were aware.
There were tow factors to this shot - the placement and the power. The shot was not placed that well - it was within De Gea reach but it was well struck.
Because it was well struck De Gea could not palm it away - he had to stop the ball and then hope his defenders were aware.
He didn't have control on the shot or the ball. He just reacted and put his hand in the way of the ball. I take it you don't play football if you think De Gea did something wrong there?
The abuse here is way over the top. I disagree fully with kie on this one but at least he's trying to argue his point and isn't some dismissive WUM. Kind of horrible to read some of the comments here.
his argument is basically that De Gea should do better... because goalkeeping.
first he should knock it out for a corner, he gets called on that. Then it's 'well not in that area', he gets told it was at point blank range so he couldn't control where the ball deflected- he was too focused on making the save, so he contests the definition of 'point blank'. It's frustrating for people who genuinely want to debate when the goalposts (ironically) are getting moved all the time and it's clearly obvious the guy is wrong but won't admit it.
first he should knock it out for a corner, he gets called on that. Then it's 'well not in that area', he gets told it was at point blank range so he couldn't control where the ball deflected- he was too focused on making the save, so he contests the definition of 'point blank'. It's frustrating for people who genuinely want to debate when the goalposts (ironically) are getting moved all the time and it's clearly obvious the guy is wrong but won't admit it.
Isn't the point of people presenting arguments to change people's opinions on something? It was argued that De Gea couldn't put it out for a corner, I accepted that. I'm not going to stick to my guns on a particular matter if I've changed my mind on it.
What no-one's convinced me of is that the best possible thing De Gea could do is parry it into the 6 yard box, or that his parrying is something he can't improve. Again, I stress that I don't see him as being most culpable for the goal.
What no-one's convinced me of is that the best possible thing De Gea could do is parry it into the 6 yard box, or that his parrying is something he can't improve. Again, I stress that I don't see him as being most culpable for the goal.
I don't see the point of arguing with Ktotheworld when his initial take on DDG's performance is so obviously warped; he has high, high expectations that most people don't share, might as well leave it there. THe fact that he's in agreement with Dean Sturridge is probably enough comment.
He isn't at all culpable for the goal. It was purely down to luck where the ball landed- it was hit with too much pace across his body, delaying going down for a split second to clear the ball wide would be too risky. At that range all your focus needs to go into keeping the ball out of the back of the net. If you don't get that there is no helping you.
Where else could he have parried it? I'm sorry if I offended your sensibilities by calling you a fecktard. Sorry, a monumental fecktard, but the weight of evidence in this thread alone points to that being without question.
If the idea of an opinion is to voice your opinion and convince others of it's validity, voice your opinion clearly. You've yet to actually do that effectively. All you've said is he shouldn't have parried it into the 6 yard box. First of all, you reckoned out for a corner was where it should have gone, you've admitted now that wasn't possible. You've now given a few other options, such as up in the air (to where, exactly) amongst other options that don't look possible. So here it is, if De Gea made a mistake parrying the ball where he did, what should he have done with that save?
Either side of what?
He could have parried it back out wide towards the guy who shot it at him, or in that vague direction, or up in the air in the direction he sent it in real life to give the other defenders a chance to get back.
Bollocks, Cheesy. Read the rest of his input in this thread. He doesn't rate De Gea, fair enough, but he's constantly looking for mistakes to try and show how right he is to not rate him. He's always at it.
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