David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Uses his feet to make saves far too often for my liking.
 
Where are his bashers now then? He didn't recklessly come out for any crosses today, he didn't leave the defense hanging. He did his job and he did it fecking superbly.
 
Uses his feet to make saves far too often for my liking.

Can't agree with that, the ones where he used his feet were very fast and when his position means that attempting to get down with his hands would have taken too long and likely meant conceding. Great improvisation imo.
 
I reckon he would've saved it if he didn't take that sidestep
 
He could have saved the freekick if not for that step - but it was so perfect you can't fault him for that.
 
Apart from a bad kick I was very delighted with him today. His saves with the feet were spot on.

And he made a wonder save too.

Gary Neville harsh on the free kick. I'm not sure he would have saved it either way.
 
If Mata goes the other way though, and De Gea saves it, we're raving about it. He didn't have a clear sight so he took a gamble. Unfortunately for him, Mata shoved it right in the corner with power... but I don't blame De Gea at all for it.
 
His socks are too long. Never mind all those match-winning saves; he could do better with those socks.
 
Titanium Gold performance today.

Spain's clear no 1 once whatshisface retires.

Will be out of this world once he is 25!
 
He could have saved the freekick if not for that step - but it was so perfect you can't fault him for that.
In February such a step helped him to save THAT Mata free-kick.

It didn't work out this time.
 
You set the wall up to cover one side of the goal. If you subsequently get beaten on the side you are supposed to be covering, it's poor.

I'm guessing you've never played as a keeper, no offence intended.

You set up the wall to cover for one side, true, but the wall cannot do anything about the curling effort. That is why the keeper takes a step towards the position of the wall to cover for the curler. In this case, Van Persie and Torres got into a mini-shoving contest in the wall, which blocked De Gea's view. He took a step too far towards the wall in order to see the ball, which was the exact same moment Mata struck the ball. It didn't help with the free kick being so close to the penalty box which means he had less time to adapt to the shoving contest in the wall. He would have definitely saved that shot if the wall had stood still.
 
Anyone have a video or gif of his save from Torres? Don't think I've seen a replay of it.
 
I reckon he would've saved it if he didn't take that sidestep

yes, but that doesn't mean he should be criticised for it. He couldn't see the ball and was more likely to have full cover of the goal by taking the step.

If taking the step gives him an 80% chance of saving on target freekicks from that position and angle, and not taking a step gives him a 70% chance- he made the right call to take the step even if on that occasion it was 'wrong'.
 
I'm guessing you've never played as a keeper, no offence intended.

You set up the wall to cover for one side, true, but the wall cannot do anything about the curling effort. That is why the keeper takes a step towards the position of the wall to cover for the curler. In this case, Van Persie and Torres got into a mini-shoving contest in the wall, which blocked De Gea's view. He took a step too far towards the wall in order to see the ball, which was the exact same moment Mata struck the ball. It didn't help with the free kick being so close to the penalty box which means he had less time to adapt to the shoving contest in the wall. He would have definitely saved that shot if the wall had stood still.

Are you actually disagreeing with me?
 
If Mata goes the other way though, and De Gea saves it, we're raving about it. He didn't have a clear sight so he took a gamble. Unfortunately for him, Mata shoved it right in the corner with power... but I don't blame De Gea at all for it.

Mata was thinking last season; DDG was not. I don't think DDG would've saved it no matter.
 
Where are his bashers now then? He didn't recklessly come out for any crosses today, he didn't leave the defense hanging. He did his job and he did it fecking superbly.

He done well today apart from a sloppy pass which could have cost us.

He didnt make any other mistake but it not as if he ability on crosses is still not a major weakness. You just know that he still cant go through players to sort out a cross. Chelsea just didnt test him on it much today. As per usual his shot stopping is world class. Not much doubt about that but till he sorts out his ability to deal with crosses and command his area he is still going to cost us. Its hard to be a young keeper at a top club. Every mistake is highlighted. A bit like Rafael,Evans,Smalling when they make a mistake. We probably wont see the best of them till there around 26.
 
Yes. You're saying he shouldn't concede on his right hand side, I'm saying this scenario justified him conceding on his right hand side because it wasn't his fault.

Because it was a "curler?" What a load of shit.
 
He's getting aggro for SAVING shots with his feet now. He's got no bloody chance the poor bastard!

Might have done better for the freekick and one dodgy kick aside thought he was fantastic. Lindergaard being injured is a blessing really, forces Fergie into playing for a run of games.
 
Because it was a "curler?" What a load of shit.

No, not because it's a curler for fecks sake. Cool down for a bit and read the post properly. It's not his fault he conceded on his right because he couldn't see the ball due to the shoving in the wall. The curler bit was to try to say shots that go over the wall curling away from the goalkeeper.
 
Educate me.

More often than not, the FK taker will try to send the ball behind the wall, therefore, when you're a GK, you should take a step towards that post in order to save it (like DDG did last time with Mata's free-kick). Now, when the FK is as close as it was this time, the keeper has to think that the taker might take it behind the wall, and if he doesn't take the step he won't reach it. Now, when Mata decides to take it to the Keeper's post, it should be a very well struck kick for it go in, as the keeper, even though he has already taken a step, is close to it, so the shot must have great power, and if it has a curve as well, as Mata's shot, it is impossible.

Free-kick takers don't decide to kick it towards the Keeper's post just to see if the keeper will make a blunder, they do it because they know the keeper will take a step towards the other post, and they trust themselves to take it with the right power and curve.

It's not as easy as: "if it goes in your post it's your fault".

Not De Gea's fault.
 
It's harsh to blame him when the free-kick was so good imo.

Even with the step he took, he'd still have saved anything that wasn't absolutely inch perfect into the corner with such pace.

The fault on that goal lies with Wayne Rooney for giving away a free-kick in such a position.
 
Would have lost without him today. Unbelievable saves. The freekick was unsavable. Mata is just fecking class. The shot had so much power and was perfectly placed.
 
No, not because it's a curler for fecks sake. Cool down for a bit and read the post properly. It's not his fault he conceded on his right because he couldn't see the ball due to the shoving in the wall. The curler bit was to try to say shots that go over the wall curling away from the goalkeeper.

He decides where the wall goes. Therefore, it's still his fault.

I'm sure if you were to ask him, he would feel culpable. If the free kick makes it over the wall and dips into the right hand side of the goal, then fair enough. The fact remains, it went into the side of the goal which De Gea was supposed to have covered.

More often than not, the FK taker will try to send the ball behind the wall, therefore, when you're a GK, you should take a step towards that post in order to save it (like DDG did last time with Mata's free-kick). Now, when the FK is as close as it was this time, the keeper has to think that the taker might take it behind the wall, and if he doesn't take the step he won't reach it. Now, when Mata decides to take it to the Keeper's post, it should be a very well struck kick for it go in, as the keeper, even though he has already taken a step, is close to it, so the shot must have great power, and if it has a curve as well, as Mata's shot, it is impossible.

Free-kick takers don't decide to kick it towards the Keeper's post just to see if the keeper will make a blunder, they do it because they know the keeper will take a step towards the other post, and they trust themselves to take it with the right power and curve.

It's not as easy as: "if it goes in your post it's your fault".

Not De Gea's fault.

See above.
 
It was a very well struck free-kick, and even if De Gea in principle should control that corner, it's a bit harsh to give him too much blame. I blame Rooney more for that fecking stupid challenge.

His save from Torres' header in the first half was absolutely sensational.
 
It's never good when a keeper gets beat on the side he should be covering. That said, it was a great strike.

On the whole I thought he was excellent.
 
I'm more annoyed with Rooney giving away the free kick than him being beaten in his corner to be honest. All points are valid though. He should be covering his corner but then again I also understand him taking the step to be able to see the ball at all.

Great free kick as well mind you. I've seen free kicks from that distance being scored in the keepers corner quite a few times this season already and mostly it's because of the keeper taking that sidestep to try and see the ball and then getting beat.

Great game from him overall. Really kept us in the match like he's done in his previous two Chelsea matches.
 
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