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David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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This is long forgotten, instead he'll be remembered for our capitulation in the group stages against rubbish teams.
Stop being an idiot. I'm tired of this constant bashing of our youngsters when we know this is the policy that we have and that they need time, support and patience. Critisism is ok, but what you do is just talking bullshit
Yeah, the matches against Chelsea, Liverpool, Stoke and Newcastle, for instance, will be gone in memory. The penalty save vs Arsenal as well.
I'm curious... what do you think the meaning of this phrase is?
My pet hate....people with nothing better to do than pointing out spelling errors.
He gets blamed for everything - while other players, who didnt show up but have the experience and skills as well, didnt do anything. Take the CL exit - our players had the chance to finish those team off plenty of times, we could have beaten Basel easily with the right attitude. Yet its DDG who is blamed. Sunnyboys and flavour of the month's like Jones can do no wrong.
It's the "O'Shea-syndrome" (or "Gibson-syndrome") all over again: you pick your scapegoat for everything and stick to it. I'm really getting tired of this
To an extent, yes.
But he has been very poor at times. Some of the keeping you wouldnt see on a sunday morning.
hope he does better on sunday...
You could make a list of errors that every player has made since the start of the season and it would read similarly, or at least there would be a lot, obviously a goalkeeper has more mistakes leading to goals. Point is, most footballers make lots of mistakes only some who people want to scapegoat have theirs highlighted more than others. A lot of those mistakes there also weren't entirely his fault but were the result of several mistakes by several people.
What a load of complete nonsense. So if the whole team play badly in a particular game, only De Gea is to blame? If the midfield is non-existent and the defence go to sleep... it's still all solely De Gea's fault. Don't be ridiculous, we played poorly against weak opposition in the CL and deserved to get knocked out, virtually all of our players played weakly, it's by no means all De Gea's fault and utterly absurd to claim it is.
Yep, it's definitely worked. I mean, we're doing so badly at the moment.
Oh no wait, we're joint-top of the league despite having the most injuries of any team, and have conceded the second least amount of goals.
But that's the point. No one said he's having a perfect season, but people see the potential and can put his performances into the right context. We had goalies in the past who were world champions and couldnt cut it at United - yet a 20 year old, in his first season, should be perfect right away and be compared with a goalkeeper who was twice his age?
We either support the philosophy of Fergie and give the youngster time, patience and support, or we dont and go for the expensive, mature players that have no connection to the roots of the club whatsoever
So saying he has potential and could be one of the greats but hasn't done well so far is unfair? Get a grip. He has not been up to the standard expected of a United goalkeeper yet - if he was, there would be no media witchhunt and there would be nobody nervous about him appearing on the teamsheet.
Yes, he has potential, I am fecking well aware of this and have pointed this out half a million times. He has not been great for United so far though. He has been nervous, he has made several mistakes in high profile games and he has caused several goals.
And we're out of all the cups. You can put on the red-tinted specs and claim De Gea has been flawless so far all day long. At the end of the day, however, it's bollocks.
Did you actually read any of my posts or just concentrate on that one small point that I have already subsequently explained and elaborated on? Christ almighty. Here let me help you with your problems in basic reading comprehension :
Reapersoul said:
For fecks sake, while Phil Jones has impressed big time, Dea Gea has probably been the worst goalkeeper in PL football this season.
If that was directed at ReaperSoul, it wasn't necessary to be abusive. You might disagree with him, but his opinion wasn't expressed abusively and seems to comply with all the rules of debate.
Pimpy the Magic Twat strikes again
I would rather be out of the cups and joint-first in the league than still be in the cups and about 4th. At least now we can focus on the league. City, I might remind you, are also out of the cups and yet no-one's talking about them doing shit - quite the opposite actually - and they've literally spent billions on their team.
With the injuries we have its an absolute miracle we're still in a title race... I didn't say anywhere that De Gea had been flawless, I don't think that, I just think it's ridiculous he's getting as much stick as he's getting, I don't think he's as bad as many are making out, and I think that yet again it's highly tedious and annoying that our supporters are getting themselves a new scapegoat. Gibson and O'Shea have gone and Carrick is playing well so we have to find someone else to direct all our blame on, and of course lets pick a young goalkeeper.
Oh dear!
For mistakes made DDG has been certainly in the bottom 4 or 5 keepers this season. I dont see how you can argue with this
Oh yes, he's far worse than all the relegation team's goalkeepers. This is getting ridiculous now.
This is getting ridiculous now.
I am not saying he is worse, I have no doubt he will turn out far better than the majority of keepers in the league...but his form has been worse than the vast majority of PL keepers so far this season.
I dont think this should even be disputed
Seriously dude? Have you forgotten he actually might have single handedly kept us in the game against Liverpool when we went to Anfield in September or October? I mean worst? Really?
Have you forgotten he has never really played behind a set back four in his season in the EPL? He has been manhandled sometimes by other teams but he is working on improving his game.
this forum has the unique ability to make you laugh and cry at the same time. or just cut open your wrists
I would go with De Gea on Sunday. Amos may have put in a very good performance against Stoke, however it's easy to forget how inexperienced he is. De Gea's the safest option, for me.
DDG is a very good, young keeper with bags of talent. So far, he had also some good games and made excellent saves. He kept us in the game against arsenal for example. It cant be that hard to see the positives despite the mistakes, can it
Some of the comments on here saying he's been one of the worst keepers in the league are embarrassing. Sure, he hasn't been brilliant, and I wouldn't even include him among the best in the league this season, however he hasn't been so bad that he's down among the worst goalkeepers in the league. That's incredibly harsh. The funny thing is, if he played well for the next month or so, all of those people criticising him here would be saying that he was a brilliant signing and that he's been one of the best keepers in the league.
Cherry-picking data here. At Anfield in the league, he was arguably our MOTM.
Against Chelsea, he hardly disappointed, and made a couple of impressive stops.
Ditto against Arsenal.
You're buying the media nonsense.
And the man smoking magic mushrooms: 'worst keeper in the league'? - Seriously? Seriously?
fecksake!!
There seems to be no middle ground regards to De gea he is either defended to the last breath or hung drawn and quartered.
I thought at first he was very tentative with his game - very understandable but then seemed to be making good progress in regards to his jumping and overall command of his area but then it seems he reversed these improvements for whatever reason.
I thought at first he was very tentative with his game - very understandable but then seemed to be making good progress in regards to his jumping and overall command of his area but then it seems he reversed these improvements for whatever reason.
I thought he looked a little bulkier last match, especially his arms. A good sign if so.
What we have to realize is that keepers really depend on having a stable, organized defense in front of them. None of our keepers have had that on a consistent basis this year. Given a good opportunity, most players will beat the keeper with a strike and the United back line has handed out a fair number of those recently.
What we have to realize is that keepers really depend on having a stable, organized defense in front of them. None of our keepers have had that on a consistent basis this year. Given a good opportunity, most players will beat the keeper with a strike and the United back line has handed out a fair number of those recently.
The de Gea debate clearly separates those who watch football from those who read the papers. Its quite easy to see.
He's our keeper... I'll be cheering for him on Sunday.
Not sure that can be said of everyone on here/
Not sure that can be said of everyone on here/
I'm actually not buying the media nonsense, it's just a lot of the people here cant do basic reading comprehension!
I think he has a lot of potential and will be a great keeper. He has had some great performances and made some great saves. Overall, I was just saying that so far he has not been good enough to be a first team Manchester United keeper - which is something I think is reasonable enough to say since he has fecked up quite a bit in his short space of time here.
It just so happens that Maciek, Orton and MG have their red tinted spectacles glued on and can't see that, despite the potential, he has not set the world alight yet.
Personally I love him, I've never seen distribution so good from a keeper and I love that.
I don't mind a few mistakes from young players, especially a new keeper in a new country. I have no doubts that he'll be a superb keeper for us sooner rather than later. The more games he plays, the better he will be.
I don't mind a few mistakes from young players, especially a new keeper in a new country. I have no doubts that he'll be a superb keeper for us sooner rather than later. The more games he plays, the better he will be.
I believe too, but the worrying thing is with a goalkeeper it is a lot more dangerous than a young inconsistent outfield player. He could effectively cost us big time while he is coming to terms with being our keeper. Which IMO he is far away from doing so.
The chances are he will have at least 4 weeks in the side now uninterrupted (hopefully). It’s far from make or break as far as his future with Utd is concerned, as really time is on his side in that respect. But for him it is season defining. He needs to become very consistent, very fast. It’s not fair but we are chasing a title and we cannot afford to have a liability as out last line of defence.
The chances are he will have at least 4 weeks in the side now uninterrupted (hopefully). It’s far from make or break as far as his future with Utd is concerned, as really time is on his side in that respect. But for him it is season defining. He needs to become very consistent, very fast. It’s not fair but we are chasing a title and we cannot afford to have a liability as out last line of defence.
Ah... I see people are still trying to prove their membership of the elite football experts club, hence distinguishing themselves from the moronic gullible majority, by claiming that De Gea is currently an amazing goalkeeper.
Plus ca change.
Much as I hope it doesn't happen, it would be interesting to see how long they would keep this going if he did nothing but blunder for the rest of the season. Could all get a bit Monty Python's Black Knight...
Plus ca change.
Much as I hope it doesn't happen, it would be interesting to see how long they would keep this going if he did nothing but blunder for the rest of the season. Could all get a bit Monty Python's Black Knight...
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