PickledRed
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Oh yeah. Defo.You're a finished club and you know it.
Oh yeah. Defo.You're a finished club and you know it.
I haven’t read such confidence on here since the Salah transfer thread in August 2017.This Klopp transfer guru is a myth - he has made some good signings but he had a nucleus of a very good team - everyone appears great slipping into a really good functioning team, however, once that team starts to decline it won’t appear so much that way. Because he had a purple patch doesn’t mean it will continue
Liverpool have peaked with this years quadruple failure and I guarantee that all future signings won’t have the same impact - it is the inevitable cycle that ends.
Also - they have been able to keep a good status quo on players and salaries - as soon as that gets busy then the dissent comes. Mane goes this year, Salah next and then who else? They would be big boots to fill for Nunez and Diaz/Jota.
Who was in this nucleus of a very good team that Klopp inherited when he arrived in 2015? Only Henderson, Milner, Firmino and Gomez remain from that group (Origi too but he'd been out on loan at the time), and Henderson's the only regular starter now.This Klopp transfer guru is a myth - he has made some good signings but he had a nucleus of a very good team - everyone appears great slipping into a really good functioning team, however, once that team starts to decline it won’t appear so much that way. Because he had a purple patch doesn’t mean it will continue
Liverpool have peaked with this years quadruple failure and I guarantee that all future signings won’t have the same impact - it is the inevitable cycle that ends.
Also - they have been able to keep a good status quo on players and salaries - as soon as that gets busy then the dissent comes. Mane goes this year, Salah next and then who else? They would be big boots to fill for Nunez and Diaz/Jota.
They made a Champions League final 4 seasons ago. That’s some purple patch.This Klopp transfer guru is a myth - he has made some good signings but he had a nucleus of a very good team - everyone appears great slipping into a really good functioning team, however, once that team starts to decline it won’t appear so much that way. Because he had a purple patch doesn’t mean it will continue
Liverpool have peaked with this years quadruple failure and I guarantee that all future signings won’t have the same impact - it is the inevitable cycle that ends.
Also - they have been able to keep a good status quo on players and salaries - as soon as that gets busy then the dissent comes. Mane goes this year, Salah next and then who else? They would be big boots to fill for Nunez and Diaz/Jota.
You've just lost one of the best DoFs in football, no telling what your new strategy might be. Maybe your scouts have said he's the next van Nistelrooy. Maybe you've shit yourselves because City signed Haaland and the £80m you were saving for Tchouameni is now burning a hole in your pocket. All we know for certain is you're about to spunk £100m on a lad who's had 1 good season in Portugal.
A zFernando Torres / Luis Suarez kind of signing for Liverpool. It’s a shame we might miss him because of no champions league and Ronaldo.
When will this club learn ? Fans like you should stay out of transfer Muppetry until it's over. Come back and cry in Aug for something else.Us losing out on this signing just shows that we haven’t learnt our lesson! Another new manager having to try and succeed when we’re signing his 2nd 3rd and 4th choice targets! It shouldn’t matter how much a target cost..: we should be backing the manager, just like city do with pep and Liverpool do with klopp! Them 2 teams are strengthening upfront when they was already the top 2 highest scorers in the league. Meanwhile we’re messing about as usual. When will this club learn?
Us losing out on this signing just shows that we haven’t learnt our lesson! Another new manager having to try and succeed when we’re signing his 2nd 3rd and 4th choice targets! It shouldn’t matter how much a target cost..: we should be backing the manager, just like city do with pep and Liverpool do with klopp! Them 2 teams are strengthening upfront when they was already the top 2 highest scorers in the league. Meanwhile we’re messing about as usual. When will this club learn?
Seems like the hipsters' choice these days - how many of you can possibly have been watching OGC Nice games on a regular basis?
We’ll we’ve been in contact with his agent for weeks. Pretty clear that ten Hag rates him…How do you even know we were in for him? Also with city and Liverpool it’s easier to strengthen from the positions they are in, so easier to spend this sort of money on one player. We need a f total rebuild so blowing 80 mill on this guy ain’t a wise decision.
This is probably Liverpools answer to city buying Haaland. Nunez is nowhere near that level though atm
So you think the club is run smoothly and never make mistakes? Go back to sleep mateWhen will this club learn ? Fans like you should stay out of transfer Muppetry until it's over. Come back and cry in Aug for something else.
Im talking about a purple patch in terms of transfers lately..…everyone talking like he is the transfer messiah after signing Jota and then Diaz recently - but it’s much easier for forwards to come in and do well when those around them are good. (As a comparison - Hernandez was the same when he came to us).They made a Champions League final 4 seasons ago. That’s some purple patch.
Talk about sleeping ? Coming from a poster who thinks we should spent 80m for this guy and another 80m on midfielder and another 50m on a defender ? Bit rich mate ?So you think the club is run smoothly and never make mistakes? Go back to sleep mate
What about all his attributes ? does that not play a big part in the buying process ? Its the player profile that is most important to klopp, the rest they train in to whoever it is to fit and play within the system. Within that system the player becomes more than the sum of his parts. His profile suggests he will succeed at Liverpool, he could very flop at united, as there is no system in place.
I don’t think many people think Klopp himself is the transfer messiah. But it’s clear whoever’s in charge of Liverpool’s recruitment is very good, their hit rate is class.Im talking about a purple patch in terms of transfers lately..…everyone talking like he is the transfer messiah after signing Jota and then Diaz recently - but it’s much easier for forwards to come in and do well when those around them are good. (As a comparison - Hernandez was the same when he came to us).
Klopp made some good signings over the last 5 years to get a very good team but that team peaked this season - and it’s a team that has won very little because of City. I believe it will now start to fall apart. Mane will be the start of that. Let’s not forget that Klopp has also made some poor signings also - Minamino, Keita.
Just makes me chuckle that everyone fawns over (him being the greatest manager/the current team being the best ever) his transfer ability and how great a manager he is - what about Peps signings? Diaz and now Haaland?
What I’m most pleased about is that while Liverpool have had a decent team (while we are so poor) is that they have won very little because of city. Next season will be the same again - they will win less. Their cycle is coming to an end. Mane leaves then Salah and then let’s see how great those signings are.
If they sign Nunez I don’t think he will be the player they think they are signing as Mane is as key to that team as VVD.
I think we will still go for a relatively expensive option upfront. They will replace Greenwood who was a big part of the future here. I don’t believe the low sums being reported for transfers; i’ve seen that every time we miss out on the CL and every time we end up splashing the cash. Its actually when we end up qualifying for the CL that we don’t spend typically (except last year).If we get FDJ then we would never be signing this player - a decent midfield signing(s) and you have Ronaldo, a surely improved Rashford next season, Elanga and maybe a another.
We won’t be doing Big Midfielder and Big CF in the same window - as we need to spend on RB and CB as well
Elanga is shite and should be loaned or sold. Personally I suspect that whilst there is the slightest chance that Greenwood can be reintegrated into the squad we won't spend big on an attacker. Once his case is settled either way I think will decide that gap in the squad.If we get FDJ then we would never be signing this player - a decent midfield signing(s) and you have Ronaldo, a surely improved Rashford next season, Elanga and maybe a another.
We won’t be doing Big Midfielder and Big CF in the same window - as we need to spend on RB and CB as well
How do you even know we were in for him? Also with city and Liverpool it’s easier to strengthen from the positions they are in, so easier to spend this sort of money on one player. We need a f total rebuild so blowing 80 mill on this guy ain’t a wise decision.
This is probably Liverpools answer to city buying Haaland. Nunez is nowhere near that level though atm
these stats are purely for the CL, hence why they are skewered.
Careful using fbref for players outside the top 5 European leagues. They only show data for the 'Big 5' and European competitions over the last year - in Darwin's case those stats are based off 614 minutes, so statistically pretty worthless.
Those stats are based on just 614 minutes played, all in the Champions League against mostly superior opposition (Liverpool, Ajax, Bayern, Barca). The sample size is too small and too skewed to be useful or indicative of anything.
Where’s the 80m come from? Reckon we can get FDJ for less then 80… Barca are desperate for money and should take whatever they get offered. Probably get done for about 60 with add ons. Timber probably cost about 30-35m if that’s the defender we want. What other strikers are available out there that we can buy? To get the best available you have to spend.Talk about sleeping ? Coming from a poster who thinks we should spent 80m for this guy and another 80m on midfielder and another 50m on a defender ? Bit rich mate ?
Nunez far more versatile then halaand . More over what's that got to do with United? Or are you a city supporter now ?