How have players coming over from Portuguese league done compared to, say players from the bubdesliga?
don’t tell me you want nkunku
Darwin Núñez / signs for Liverpool
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don’t tell me you want nkunku
The guy will be a superstar at Liverpool under Klopp, and everybody knows it.
As soon as it was reported, that Mane was leaving, I knew our chances of signing this guy were gone.
We have just lost several players and have yet to put in any bids for anybody, and are too busy chasing a playing who doesn’t want to join.
Meanwhile Pool realise, Mane is leaving and don’t waste anytime, in sounding out his replacement.
The sheer contrast between both clubs, is unbelievable!
As soon as it was reported, that Mane was leaving, I knew our chances of signing this guy were gone.
We have just lost several players and have yet to put in any bids for anybody, and are too busy chasing a playing who doesn’t want to join.
Meanwhile Pool realise, Mane is leaving and don’t waste anytime, in sounding out his replacement.
The sheer contrast between both clubs, is unbelievable!
Yeah then there is mkhitatyan kagawa Werner, possibly sancho from a supposedly top league.
I honestly think they've shit themselves a bit with Mane leaving and City having already signed Haaland.
How have players coming over from Portuguese league done compared to, say players from the bubdesliga?
don’t tell me you want nkunku
I stand by what I said.
Problem with United.. they have no clue who to sign.
When you hear how bad our previous scouts were, saying players were rubbish and they turn out to be amazing and yet we blow double the price for epic failures.
So when they go into a deal, they basically line up 3 or 4 and negotiate them all in one position and just accept whichever one doesn't turn us down and pay him stupid money.
Pick one target and go full on board after him and make him feel wanted, just like Fergie did.
It's so embarrassing, we are still seemingly using same tactics.
Marco’s Rojo, Victor Lindelof and Bebe also came from that league.
Has Taremi been banging them in in the CL? Taremi is 29, when has anyone that age been described as a prospect? It’s you who is full of shit.
Who's Marco's?
So when we were told it would take a couple of years to get the club sorted out you're complaining after a month.......
His stats on FB ref are pretty alarming.
https://fbref.com/en/players/4d77b365/Darwin-Nunez
In the 1 percentile for passes completed. His non-penalty expected goals was 0.32, but he scored 0.73. I’ll admit he looks strong and good in the air, but there were a lot of deflections and keeper mistakes in his goal highlights.
Who the hell knows? At this point, you look at Klopp’s track record, you’d think he could turn Martial into a world beater.
Nunez looks nothing like Firmino or Jota, and Klopp likes to have his CF to be involved in build up play. Still, 54% completion rate on passes is abysmal… the more I look at it, I’d rather have CR7 at striker with Rashford 2nd choice than pay 85m for this fella.
Don’t know if he’s good or not all that but damn it’s exciting signing attacking players so the fact he looks nailed on for Pool is frustrating
You can’t be stupid enough to think he meant every player from Portuguese league is great?
Let Liverpool have him for the fees quoted.
Way to miss the fecking point, you came in here using the number of goals as some sort of proof that this guy is such a prospect. I called you out for what a pointless stat that is because it’s the Portuguese league and then showed how even a substandard player could get those numbers (or even better) than Nunez, you move the goal post.
Ah yes champions league goals, Nkunku has more than Nunez.
What the feck are you on about? He used the point that two of our best players happened to come from the Portuguese league as some sort of counter to the argument that it’s generally a substandard league. So I gave him examples of players we’ve signed that have been anything but great. Stupid is using goal scoring stats from that league to label a player like Nunez one of the best prospects.
Kolo Toure came from the Ivorian league, it doesn’t mean it’s not a fecking shit league.
Autocorrect.
You're loving Liverpool signing a player you rate? CoolBut I thought he was a DONKEY!!!!!
I'm loving this meltdown.
(Still hasn't been officially confirmed yet by the way)
Bas Dost scored 36 goals for Sporting a few seasons ago. I like Nunez but there are questions marks with him. He has a lot of room to improve technically if he wants to become a top centre forward in the PL and he's only had one good season in the Primeira Liga. Last year he scored 14 goals in 44 games in all competitions.39 goals this season. "one of the best prospects my arse" my arse.
Hopefully he's their Lukaku
these stats are purely for the CL, hence why they are skewered.
I believe Darwin is a predator in the box.
There is no doubt now both Pep and Klopp finally realized they cant win big, tough games in CL without one. You need that guy in the box, the salahs, KDBs are not enough.
Real Madrid proved it.
Im worried ETH will realize this once the big CFs are away from us.
There is no doubt now both Pep and Klopp finally realized they cant win big, tough games in CL without one. You need that guy in the box, the salahs, KDBs are not enough.
Real Madrid proved it.
Im worried ETH will realize this once the big CFs are away from us.
Beginning of the end for them.
Extremely difficult to replace that calibre of player. Especially on a budget.
klopp entering his "end of dortmund" phase?
If 85 million is your budget to replace Mane, it certainty aint the end of the world.Beginning of the end for them.
Extremely difficult to replace that calibre of player. Especially on a budget.
klopp entering his "end of dortmund" phase?
Reading the dippers are offering £80 million with add ons up to £100?
If they do that I'm guessing that's there full transfer kitty? Or is it the agents etc playing one club against the other.
The only thing We got over the dippers is .this guy is going to start for us is he going to for them ?
If they do that I'm guessing that's there full transfer kitty? Or is it the agents etc playing one club against the other.
The only thing We got over the dippers is .this guy is going to start for us is he going to for them ?
Those stats are based on just 614 minutes played, all in the Champions League against mostly superior opposition (Liverpool, Ajax, Bayern, Barca). The sample size is too small and too skewed to be useful or indicative of anything.
He's mediocre, but it's not like he's going to play under Pep. Klopp could turn him into something.
the point was that most of the players who performed well in that league have performed well in the PL. contrast with players like Werner, kagawa, miki who tore it up in Germany but didn’t perform here. Whatever fits your narrative though.
The fact you so easily resorted to f’ing and blinding says a lot about your intelligence.
That's an enormous fee for a player so unproven. Liverpool trying to out City City.
For that fee it’s not worth it. He’ll do well there for them but we have a squad to build
I don't disagree with what you're saying but you're not helping yourself with statements like these. There's been excellent players that have come from the Portuguese league and there have been flops as well. Same with Bundesliga, yes there's been flops but there's also been some fantastic transfers that have come from there.
Careful using fbref for players outside the top 5 European leagues. They only show data for the 'Big 5' and European competitions over the last year - in Darwin's case those stats are based off 614 minutes, so statistically pretty worthless.
You’re never going to get a 100% success rate. The original point was that he said the stats meaning nothing as it’s the Portuguese League, when in fact there have been more successful acquisitions from there than almost every other league in Europe.
By contrast, the majority of high profile acquisitions from the German league in recent years have flopped.
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I have a bridge to sell you if you think Liverpool just randomly came in ready to pay the price without at least a few weeks worth of work/talks.
If they’re willing to pay £80-100 million for this guy let them have him. He’s not worth pissing our transfer kitty on him
For me, it's more spending a tremendous amount this season on a player that isnt guaranteed to be a big goalscorer for us/hit the ground running in this rebuild. £80m on a striker, which isn't the top priority this window ,will eat heavily into the budget, leaving us short on recruiting in other areas of more importance.
He's had his breakthrough season, and I personally think he looks like a very good striker with a lot of potential. You are right in that that Liverpool game was mightily impressive and cant remember a striker be so dominant against that defence for a while.
For me it's not the season to spend that much money with little track record.
Eh? He isn’t going to start for us. This is the big issue we have when signing any striker this summer. They have a 37 year old named Ronaldo in front of them who wants to play every game. Who does he have ahead of him in the striking role at Liverpool?
This is another point, why are we accepting a kitty of 80-100m when we’re in the position we are in? It’s clear we need to spend closer to 200m. Obviously it will be hard to sign more than one sought after target with that kind of budget.
Not sure he looks good enough but only annoying thing is that Liverpool and City continue to have strikers and forwards who can press witj intensity and we rely on a 37 year old as our undroppable star.
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