Darron Gibson to Leave United?

I guess this is the offical Gibbo thread for this season, isn't it?
 
I don't understand the vilification of Gibson. My view is that he's not mature or gifted enough to command a place in the first team of the second best team in Europe, but a year out on loan might do him the world of good. I would rather we exhaust all other alternatives before selling our academy players.
 
evra said:
I don't understand the vilification of Gibson. My view is that he's not mature or gifted enough to command a place in the first team of the second best team in Europe, but a year out on loan might do him the world of good. I would rather we exhaust all other alternatives before selling our academy players.
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He's 24 soon. He's gone on loans, he came back, he's had a couple of years witht he first team, getting the odd game. He didn't seem to go forward at all. It's beyond the stage of going on another loan. Sure, it could be nice for us, send him on loan, and if he improves we bring him back. But it's certainly not right for him.
 
He'll be gone soon enough. Personally I think it's daft to sell him before we bring in at least 2 more midfielders because with Fletcher mystery virus and Scholes retirement selling midfielders without knowing who we are going to bring in to fill those places doesn't sound like a clever thing to do.

Especially when he'll go for a very modest amount anyway.
 
I thought he was in final year of contract?

Makes no financial sense going out on a year long loan to United.
 
I don't think there's going to be a loan, he'll stay if we don't buy anyone, or we'll just sell him if we get someone, which is looking less likely every day.
 
Devilton said:
He'll be gone soon enough. Personally I think it's daft to sell him before we bring in at least 2 more midfielders because with Fletcher mystery virus and Scholes retirement selling midfielders without knowing who we are going to bring in to fill those places doesn't sound like a clever thing to do.

Especially when he'll go for a very modest amount anyway.
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This is really bothering me, even more than Scholesy's retirement. We end up without options/cover for both combative and creative midfield, a little unnerving. Unless the kids step up really really well.
 
Gibbo is a very limited player, and I would've been happy to see him move on. But it doesn't look like a to drawer midfielder is coming in so we should keep him.
 
Ramshock said:
You are an absolute fecking idiot if you think Gibson is the most limited player to ever play for United, that or you are 18 years old or something! Grow up!
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Out of interest, who would you say he's less limited than?
 
I'd say if Gibson had the mobility of a Fletcher, Hargreaves or Essien he would be a top draw midfielder, probably the best we have of this current bunch. That for me is his only major weakness, but its a massive one to have as a centre midfielder.
 
Fiskey said:
I'd say if Gibson had the mobility of a Fletcher, Hargreaves or Essien he would be a top draw midfielder, probably the best we have of this current bunch. That for me is his only major weakness, but its a massive one to have as a centre midfielder.
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It's just his mobility, but his whole lack of movement as well. He's got a few other weakneses as well. His decision making is bit poor, often shooting or going for the holywood pass, when its not needed.
 
Ramshock said:
You are an absolute fecking idiot if you think Gibson is the most limited player to ever play for United, that or you are 18 years old or something! Grow up!
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feck off!! His performances speak for itself. Let's see how he gets on at Everton.
 
I'd be surprised if anyone paid his reported £40k a week demands. He'll probably wait a year and be able to command that kind of a wage (plus a signing on fee) as a free agent next year.
 
Fergie says Gibson's future is in limbo

Sir Alex Ferguson has virtually conceded that Darron Gibson has no future at Manchester United, saying that he is ‘in limbo’ at the moment.

Gibson was on a verge of a move to Sunderland alongside former United team-mates Wes Brown and John O’Shea earlier this summer, but the Black Cats move for the trigger-happy midfielder broke down amid reports of excessive wage demands from the Irish international.

With Ashley Young and Phil Jones having already arrived to provide extra options in midfield and more reinforcements potentially on the way, Fergie is happy to let Gibson leave the club and blames Sunderland, rather than Gibson, for the breakdown of a deal that looked all set to go ahead.

"He was on the point of going to Sunderland and somewhere along the line, I don't know exactly when, Sunderland moved the goalposts," said Fergie.

“I suppose their job is to try and save money.

“From what I can gather, they gave him an offer and then changed it. That annoyed Darron and I think he’s quite right.

“If you can’t trust them on day one why wait until day two.”

Whether or not Sunderland still want Gibson is unsure as the club have been involved in a buying frenzy so far this summer, with Keiren Westwood, Craig Gardner, Sebastian Larsson, David Vaughan, Connor Wickham and Ji Dong-Won joining Brown and O’Shea at the Black Cats.

Wigan and Stoke are also said to be interested in signing a player yet to deliver on his potential, but it seems clear he has little or no future at Old Trafford after being left behind while the rest of the squad embarked on a summer tour of the United States.

“Darron was undecided about what to do when we made the group up to come here – and we both felt he’d be better staying back,” added Ferguson.

“He seems to be in limbo at the moment.”

Premier League | Fergie says Gibson's future is in limbo
 
Can't remember who it was I was arguing it with the other day(maybe devilish), and he refused to believe United/Fergie told Gibbo he was free to go, and had no future at OT.

Hopefully he'll believe it now.
 
Neutral said:
Can't remember who it was I was arguing it with the other day(maybe devilish), and he refused to believe United/Fergie told Gibbo he was free to go, and had no future at OT.

Hopefully he'll believe it now.
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I still won't be surprised if he remains at United
 
News: Sunderland boss Steve Bruce intends to hold clear-the-air talks with Sir Alex Ferguson over his comments on Darron Gibson's proposed transfer.
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Sky Sports
 
adexkola said:
If he doesn't leave in this window, I think Ferguson will give him a final chance to prove himself. Personally I think he will do well anywhere he goes.
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what fergie has said spells the end for gibson

if fergie wanted him or had future plans for him he wouldnt turn around and say Darron is in LIMBO

surely he would say , darron is a vital part of Uniteds future.

Adios Darron, your on your way out.
 
adexkola said:
If he doesn't leave in this window, I think Ferguson will give him a final chance to prove himself. Personally I think he will do well anywhere he goes.
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He has proved himself...as not being good enough. I think you are being kind opining he would do well "anywhere" away from OT, but objectively, do you really rate Gibson? I mean, really???
 
manusteve said:
He has proved himself...as not being good enough. I think you are being kind opining he would do well "anywhere" away from OT, but objectively, do you really rate Gibson? I mean, really???
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Meh, I feel he didn't get enough chances to prove himself in our team. Certainly not as many as Anderson. It's hard to impress when you start here and there. Not saying he didn't have deficiencies in his game. But he's not as shit as you;d think he was, from reading the comments on here.

I think he can hold down a starting position at a mid level team if he applied himself.
 
adexkola said:
Meh, I feel he didn't get enough chances to prove himself in our team. Certainly not as many as Anderson. It's hard to impress when you start here and there. Not saying he didn't have deficiencies in his game. But he's not as shit as you;d think he was, from reading the comments on here.

I think he can hold down a starting position at a mid level team if he applied himself.
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He didn't get as many chances as Anderson because he is nowhere near as talented as Anderson.

Considering Gibson made his debut back in 2005, has been on loan for 2 seasons after, and then had at least the last 2 seasons to make an impact, it has to be said he hasn't made enough of the opportunities he has been given.

When we further consider during the last 2 seasons, we have had Scholes and Giggs coming to the end, Anderson and Carrick out of form or injured for long periods, Park away at the Asia Cup and then injured, Hargreaves permanently injured and Fletcher missing for the best part of all last season, it also has to be said that the conditions were very fortuitous for Gibson to have made his claim.

I have watched Gibson closely for a number of years and have seen very little improvement in his overall play. I have often been villified for suggesting he has not quite got what it takes to make it at OT, and many have claimed SAF's continued backing of him suggested otherwise.

Despite being a Gibson detractor i have only ever judged him objectively on his own performances, and while i take no pleasure from him now being linked with moves away, it would appear that SAF has finally confirmed what myself and many others have suggested for a while, he does not quite have enough to make it here.

Saying that i would never accuse him of not giving his best for us, and wherever he eventually ends up i wish him well for the rest of his career.
 
It's interesting our central mid next season:

Carrick
Anderson
Giggs (37>38 yo)
Fletcher (half injured)
Park

They have to play 55-60 games
 
McGrathsipan said:
what fergie has said spells the end for gibson

if fergie wanted him or had future plans for him he wouldnt turn around and say Darron is in LIMBO

surely he would say , darron is a vital part of Uniteds future.

Adios Darron, your on your way out.
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How so? Gibson is in Limbo! He has to decide whether he wants to go to another club by either being sold/loaned or decide to run his contract down at united.. If he chooses to run his contract down and we don't sign another midfielder I can see SAF using him in games here and there just like the season that just passed by.. In fact I would think he would play more than last season due to a shortage of numbers.. We have lost Scholes to retirement and Fletcher has caught that virus again.. As of now our CM options are:

Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, Gibson, Giggs In case: Jones, Park, Cleverley
 
Chirag said:
How so? Gibson is in Limbo! He has to decide whether he wants to go to another club by either being sold/loaned or decide to run his contract down at united.. If he chooses to run his contract down and we don't sign another midfielder I can see SAF using him in games here and there just like the season that just passed by.. In fact I would think he would play more than last season due to a shortage of numbers.. We have lost Scholes to retirement and Fletcher has caught that virus again.. As of now our CM options are:

Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, Gibson, Giggs In case: Jones, Park, Cleverley
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Gibson is in limbo because the manager says he is.

As for your assessment on how events may pan out should he not in fact move, i would say you are probably right. SAF is not saying he doesn't want him or will not use him, but what he is implying is that he is no longer part of his plans, and subsequently will be even further down the pecking order than before as with Berbatov.

There is a marked difference between playing occasionally when you believe the manager has faith in you, as opposed to being played occasionally when you know the manager has deemed you surplus to requirements and are therefore only going to be played as a last resort.

Gibson in my view has never been a relevant factor to Utd's future, despite protestations to the contrary from Saf. It only seemed a matter of time before SAF decided to get shut of him and whether he leaves or not i fully expect SAF to sign another midfielder before Sep 1st. Who it may be is anybody's guess, but i am fairly certain that our widely reported interest in Modric, Nasri and Sneijder indicates that SAF is seriously looking to strengthen this area.
 
MadDogg said:
Giggs is. He's more of a central midfielder (either in a two or three man midfield) than a winger these days. Valencia's injury was the only reason he played out wide so much last season; as soon as Valencia was back Giggs was moved back into a central position.
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The season before, Fergie had even said that the goal was to play Giggs more centrally but, Nani's early season form and injury forced him to play out wide. Last season similar was said but, with Valencia's injury and Park outages again forced Giggs to play out on the wing a lot.

I'll be very surprised if Giggs does play out wide much this coming season - most of his games will come centrally or left back (okay that last bit is a joke)
 
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