Darren Fletcher - Technical Director

The only inhouse person who could take over until end of season, I think. Not advocating it, but if carrick was assistant, ten hag would be gone tomorrow.
 

"Manchester United coach Darren Fletcher has been charged with misconduct by the Football Association for allegedly abusing..."

Oh, ffs, another wrong 'un?

"...the match officials"

Ah, nevermind. Well in, Darren.
 
Do we know what he actually said?

Darren is not the sort to start swearing randomly, he is quite the professional

What did the ref get wrong?
 
Do we know what he actually said?

Darren is not the sort to start swearing randomly, he is quite the professional

What did the ref get wrong?

Nothing, just enforcing the rules properly regarding the blood dripping from De Ligt's head and making him leave the pitch. United medical staff seemingly incapable of stopping it, not applying a dressing, a stitch or a barrier cream and rubbing his head with a towel as their treatmant plan. Nobody in the coaching staff taking up the option of substituting him either when seeing they were having difficulty stopping the bleeding.

Fletch blaming the ref at the time.
 
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Nothing, just enforcing the rules properly regarding the blood dripping from De Ligt's head and making him leave the pitch. United medical staff seemingly incapable of stopping it, not applying a dressing, a stitch or a barrier cream and rubbing his head with a towel as their treatmant plan. Nobody in the coaching staff taking up the option of substituting him either when seeing they were having difficulty stopping the bleeding.

Fletch blaming the ref at the time.
It's because the ref was quite happy to allow De Ligt to play on for a good while with his head in that condition until suddenly there was a corner in injury time. Either that or the referee was completely oblivious to it.
 
Good on him, the officiating has been a disgrace all season and for most of last too.
 
Good on him, the officiating has been a disgrace all season and for most of last too.

Correct, I hope he sends them 15k and tells them they may as well hold onto it for next time as we have no confidence in them improving their officiating.
 
Good on him, the officiating has been a disgrace all season and for most of last too.

we’ve definitely had no luck whatsoever with tight calls but I guess this probably evens out over time. Remember the Bruno Martial link up over covid that got us lots of penalties at one point and Klopp called it out and I’d say we’ve had about 5 penos since. We should be ragdolling most teams with the money we spend, not constantly relying on fine margins
 
Fletch being the conduit between the Academy and the First Team is perfect. He should remain there. He was the archetype over achiever. Limited skills but he maxed out and played perfectly within them and applied an elite mentality and work rate.

He can see the super talents, he can see the hard workers. Most of all, he will only push those with the right attitudes.
 
Depends who he is being compared to. He was a damn good player.
Fantastic player, but for the minutes he played and the trust Fergie showed in him, he was not some world beater - he was incredibly disciplined. Not the fastest, the strongest or the best technician. He was above average in all categories. But it's the mentality to fuse them all together and perform 8/10 in all categories what made him special. I genuinely don't remember a bad game from him. Never saw him struggle against any of the elites either.

Maximising your talents is a rare skill. Fletch had that in droves.
 
Fantastic player, but for the minutes he played and the trust Fergie showed in him, he was not some world beater - he was incredibly disciplined. Not the fastest, the strongest or the best technician. He was above average in all categories. But it's the mentality to fuse them all together and perform 8/10 in all categories what made him special. I genuinely don't remember a bad game from him. Never saw him struggle against any of the elites either.

Maximising your talents is a rare skill. Fletch had that in droves.

Remember he also had a very bad knee injury before he even got going. So who even knows how he had to adapt his game after that.
 








Honestly give him a new contract :lol:

PGMOL are a genuine disgrace and their members rightly deserve any public lashing they can get
 
It's wierd that of the 20/30+ horrible refereeing decisions we've had in the last 18-months that this is the one our staff got the most angry about.

Officials wonder why they get abused...unfortunately it's because they have created an environment in which clubs who shout loudly about every single minor decision get favourable treatment.

Case in point, Klopp...foul-mouthed, aggressive, arrogant man who regularly tortured officials with impunity, despite demonstrably favourable refereeing in their favour (see penalties for / against and cards for /against) and it's the official who gets in trouble for calling out what we all know and could see happening week-in, week-out.

If someone stood next to any of us at work ranting like that, chances are we'd all have something to say about them too
 
If it was actually a bad call from the ref I'd be quite proud of Fletcher for the reaction. But considering the referee did exactly what he had to do and it was our own fault that we kept putting De Ligt back on the field without doing a better job of patching him up, it's rather embarrassing to get so worked up about it. At most, the only criticism I can have of the officials is that the 4th official let us put him back on the field before we'd fully stemmed the flow of blood.
 








Honestly give him a new contract :lol:

PGMOL are a genuine disgrace and their members rightly deserve any public lashing they can get

Damn right. The second tweet boils my piss where the fourth official said 'calm down as his behaviour was completely unacceptable..'..just feck off, patronising cnuts!!

Thats always the go-to response by anyone trying to take the moral high ground, but its ok for the shitty decision making behaviour of the officials to be dismissed because they see themselves as untouchable and beyond approach.

That fourth officials response to Fletcher having a go at him just highlights how they see themselves as above scrutiny. This is exactly whats wrong with the referring in this country.
I'm glad Fetcher had a go at them, he shouldn't even apologise, the cnuts need pulling down a peg or two and their game making decision held accountable by a separate governing board. Maybe all the Premier league teams should get together and form one to balance the books.
 
If it was actually a bad call from the ref I'd be quite proud of Fletcher for the reaction. But considering the referee did exactly what he had to do and it was our own fault that we kept putting De Ligt back on the field without doing a better job of patching him up, it's rather embarrassing to get so worked up about it. At most, the only criticism I can have of the officials is that the 4th official let us put him back on the field before we'd fully stemmed the flow of blood.
Sometimes you protest not because you feel you are being unfairly punished but you feel that the rules that are being enforced are wrong.
 
Sometimes you protest not because you feel you are being unfairly punished but you feel that the rules that are being enforced are wrong.
As far as I know, most sports have a blood rule these days where players can't continue if they are bleeding or have blood over them. And considering the risks of blood-born diseases and infections, it's a sensible rule.

Unless you think the game should be stopped for however long it takes to patch the bleeding player up (which could be quite a while in some cases), I'm not sure what can be changed.
 
As far as I know, most sports have a blood rule these days where players can't continue if they are bleeding or have blood over them. And considering the risks of blood-born diseases and infections, it's a sensible rule.

Unless you think the game should be stopped for however long it takes to patch the bleeding player up (which could be quite a while in some cases), I'm not sure what can be changed.
Better safe than sorry but I do think it's unfair that if you get kneed in the head by the opponent so badly that it cuts your head open your team shouldn't be down a man for it.

I think the combination of things is what made them mad. The fact that he got brutalized in the beginning but the ref called a foul on De Ligt. The fact that they allowed him back on the pitch and then ordered him off only when the play had stopped for a set piece rather than stopping the play and ordering him off before it came to that.

Poorly managed situation by a lot of parties that highlighted certain impurities with the rules and enforcement of them.
 
Him being given that Technical Director position looks daft in hindsight, especially when that title is now with Jason Wilcox whose CV in a non-playing capacity far exceeds Fletcher’s when he got appointed in that position.