By the way, how do our resident gooners feel about this? Does anyone know any Arsenal fans that are over the moon about this?
Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player
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You all sound like you're 12. It's a footballer we've sold FFS. He's not even a genuine top bracket talent either. He's also wanted out for awhile and hasn't improved enough to force his way into a starting place.
He deserves to be well regarded by United fans, given his service to the club, and the fact he supported us as a boy.
But if him having a poor season for Arsenal means us finishing above them and in the top four, then i'm sorry, I hope he has a poor season. It's not personal, but United have to come first (literally, I suppose).
But if him having a poor season for Arsenal means us finishing above them and in the top four, then i'm sorry, I hope he has a poor season. It's not personal, but United have to come first (literally, I suppose).
Call me melodramatic but this transfer has really put dampener on otherwise a very good transfer window. This most likely will come back to bite us in the arse in the near future. I fear Lvg and Woodward are going to look like an idiot if Arsenal pip us for 4th place finish with Welbeck making great contribution.
Unlike Pogba, Danny was given many years in the first team to prove his calibre. That's not to say he's not developed into a good player, but he's hardly been our most prolific youth prospect.
Hope I'm not proven wrong, but he'll never reach the heights and ceiling of Pogba or even Sturridge for the matter IMO.
I completely agree with you on that one, definitely in the same boat. I just know some will pop with "He could have done that with us" if he scores a random screamer out of nowhere.
Yeah i'm a bit sad.
But he has showed in both games against Bayern Munich last season that he will never be world-class. Two big chances at Old Trafford and in Munich but no goal.
But he has showed in both games against Bayern Munich last season that he will never be world-class. Two big chances at Old Trafford and in Munich but no goal.
It's sad to see a local lad leave who has come through the youth system since 7 years old, but in the cold light of day a club like Manchester United should not have a striker on the books that can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
Agree. Last week I thought he will regret it not us but since we signed 28/29 years old Falcao for loan deal then I must say, we may regret this one in the future. He won't regret it because it was the right decision for him to leave. He has a reasonable reason.
I don't even care about the fee so much. It is decent for him and we didn't get fleeced.
I totally understand him leaving as well and how the club could not give him starting minutes as a striker that he wanted right now.
What i hate is him moving to a rival. If he had moved to a Sunderland or Southampton atleast would have enjoyed seeing him following him since such a young age and wanted him to do real well. Now i don't even know i want him to do well or not and that sucks terribly.
Ultimately his desire to be a top striker was more than to be one at United and that showed in insisting on Arsenal move and wanting a permanent deal and not even a loan. Dissapointed me there slightly.
I totally understand him leaving as well and how the club could not give him starting minutes as a striker that he wanted right now.
What i hate is him moving to a rival. If he had moved to a Sunderland or Southampton atleast would have enjoyed seeing him following him since such a young age and wanted him to do real well. Now i don't even know i want him to do well or not and that sucks terribly.
Ultimately his desire to be a top striker was more than to be one at United and that showed in insisting on Arsenal move and wanting a permanent deal and not even a loan. Dissapointed me there slightly.
Didn't he score a class goal but just unlucky that the referee called it to be high foot even though it wasn't.
I'm absolutely gutted.
This feels similar to a break-upDon't get me wrong I'm over the moon we have Falcao but I can't stop thinking about Danny!
Followed by your ex moving in with someone you absolutely despise.
Try not to get too drunk around Arsenal fans, it could end up getting ugly...
I think that's a testament to his own ambition. Fair play to him. Once he knew he didn't have a future at United he looked for the best possible move for his career and he got it.
Meanwhile, Tom Cleverley is getting dog's abuse for holding out for a move to Everton instead of Villa...
Sad to see Danny go but we've got a world class strike force now and unfortunately Danny wasn't good enough to get a place ahead of these guys.Hope he does well at Arsenal but not too well.
Not too happy with this, but at the end of the day, the lad wanted to go on a permanent deal so I'm glad we granted his wishes. Now time for Wilson to step up and take his place.
This is the new Pogba thread. 
You monster
We are people taking this so badly? We should never sell to a rival yes, but it's hardly like Welbeck was going to be the difference between us winning the league and ending eighth. Plus, we've replaced him with one of the best #9s in football and have Wilson - a player who shows insane promise - as a fourth choice to learn from three amazing strikers.
Cleverley has just shown us that players can just dig their heels and wait till their contract ends to get their own way. I don't like that we sold Welbeck to Arsenal for the way they treated us with the Verm. However I doubt he had much of a choice. I mean there's very few clubs who would want to sign a striker with the finishing touch of one of the Nevilles.
And thus kind of end my crusade to show how dangerous it is to overrate kids to ridiculous proportions and before they can actually deliver the stuff on a regular basis. As proven by the likes of Evans, Welbeck, the one whose as talented as Thiago Alcantara and the one who shits of Fabregas such attitude stalls their progression and make them cocky. Its not a coincidence that the best CM this country had, was constantly questioned throughout his career since he was 11 (too small, he has asthma, he can never play in CM, we need JSV because he cant play the continental way, Gerrard is better then him for England etc etc etc)
I am glad that VG doesn't work by basing himself on hype but on actually football.
This is the new Pogba thread.
sigh. Regret will always come late aye.
Wrong. He's a good footballer and there would have been plenty of takers. He had two years to go on his contract. We held all the aces and we sold him to a rival who needed a striker. I agree with selling him but not to Arsenal.
Well difference with pogba, we sold welbeck for nearly 20 million and signed one of the best players in the world in his prime.
I think he could be a success, but the club needed to get players off the clubs books, who had value which kagwa and welbeck did have. We still got to get rid of fellaini Cleverley Anderson, while Hernandez Zaha and nani are on loan, I think we are still paying for Zaha and nani's wages, so while we signed some great players, the squad did need trimming
Weird to see us selling a regular who was from the academy when he is still in his mid 20's..
Anyway goodluck danny. Don't score againts us however.wish you a decent career.
Anyway goodluck danny. Don't score againts us however.wish you a decent career.
He is a good footballer but his finishing is appalling and considering that he's a striker well, that's a hell of a problem. And who were the takers exactly? Falcao was wanted by Juventus, Real, Shitty and us. Hernandez was courted by AC Milan, Inter, Juventus and Real. Which big clubs wanted Welbeck apart from Arsenal?
Glaston will say Spurs!
Are they really solving their issue? Welbeck is not that good. Not at the moment anyway.
In theory Giroud will probably keep him out, when fit but Danny's got three months ahead of him in his preferred position and I can see him stepping up in the same way he stepped up for United last season when he got a (brief) run in the centre. What was it? 6 goals in 6 games? Playing for United under Moyes.
Stick him in the same position with Cazorla, Sanchez and Ramsey buzzing around and he could be quite a force. That's only this season too. He's 23 years old. That's still just a baby for a lead the line striker. Will only get better from here.
He'll be brilliant for them, I am pretty confident about that.
He's an massive upgrade on Sanogoals.
Could be a 20 goal a season striker for 10 years
I don't know why, but I can see him flourish and do really well at Arsenal.
That sentimentality is one of the reasons why our midfield is still a mess. Its as if everybody forgot playing a late 30s Giggs over and over in the midfield, calling back Paul Scholes to rescue our midfield. It's about time we actually behave like a big club. Buy the players you need while still keeping our youth prospects for the future. I'm sure Wilson will be given a proper chance.
For what its worth, Welbeck is overrated anyway.I believe he'll prove it at Arsenal.
1. Why sell to Arsenal?
2. Why sell at all when he still has 2 years left and we could just as easily loan him?
3. What happened to developing players? Just because Falcao is the better player right now doesnt mean Welbeck cant surpass him at some point. Welbeck is 23! How many here had even heard Falcaos name when he was 23? How many here think Welbeck got a fair chance playing as a forward? I cant remember him getting a consistent run of games as a forward.
4. Whos to say we wont do the same thing with Wilson? 'Develop' him till he's 23 by playing him as a winger rather than a striker for 4 years and then buy the next big thing and sell Wilson to chelsea or arsenal!
Fergie competed with the best without doing what we are doing today and im sure he must be livid seeing what is happening to United. We are turning into Madrid, PSG, Man City. I hope Van Gaal sticks by his youth policy and brings through Periera, Wilson, Blackett, Pearson and Rothwell at the very least.
2. Why sell at all when he still has 2 years left and we could just as easily loan him?
3. What happened to developing players? Just because Falcao is the better player right now doesnt mean Welbeck cant surpass him at some point. Welbeck is 23! How many here had even heard Falcaos name when he was 23? How many here think Welbeck got a fair chance playing as a forward? I cant remember him getting a consistent run of games as a forward.
4. Whos to say we wont do the same thing with Wilson? 'Develop' him till he's 23 by playing him as a winger rather than a striker for 4 years and then buy the next big thing and sell Wilson to chelsea or arsenal!
Fergie competed with the best without doing what we are doing today and im sure he must be livid seeing what is happening to United. We are turning into Madrid, PSG, Man City. I hope Van Gaal sticks by his youth policy and brings through Periera, Wilson, Blackett, Pearson and Rothwell at the very least.
Looking at it objectively, Arsenal are a better fit for Welbeck than we were.
They play the kind of football that he really comes alive with and Wenger will not hook him for missing chances and learning his trade on the job.
Not only that, we've just handed Arsenal the opportunity to become the best counter-attacking side in the land, and I'm sure that will become a reality sooner rather than later.
Their offensive midfielders will now have the opportunity to shine with how far Welbeck's pace will push defending sides and space that'll open up for them. Ozil could be the biggest beneficiary of the players already there, and suddenly look like the player he's purported to be.
If Welbeck proves to be the difference for us between 5th place and 4th, them signing him could be the defining moment of our entire summer window, which is ridiculous considering who we've side.
They play the kind of football that he really comes alive with and Wenger will not hook him for missing chances and learning his trade on the job.
Not only that, we've just handed Arsenal the opportunity to become the best counter-attacking side in the land, and I'm sure that will become a reality sooner rather than later.
Their offensive midfielders will now have the opportunity to shine with how far Welbeck's pace will push defending sides and space that'll open up for them. Ozil could be the biggest beneficiary of the players already there, and suddenly look like the player he's purported to be.
If Welbeck proves to be the difference for us between 5th place and 4th, them signing him could be the defining moment of our entire summer window, which is ridiculous considering who we've side.
What?
Like seriously what? Have you seen anything, anything at all in Danny's career thus far to suggest he will one day be the best goal scorer in world football? Jesus Christ what a stupid statement.
There is a rumours is because Welbeck wanted the permanent one only. I agree about club shouldn't sell him if we can't do loan deal.
This reminds me of Pogba problem for not getting enough games indeed. So my guess Welbeck is already losing his faith in LVG, so he is unhappy with LVG. This also reminds me of Tevez since he was upset at Sir Alex about the game times.
I wonder if Welbeck is crying now like Beckham did.
Which big club wanted Fabregas apart from maybe (not even confirmed) us and ... oh wait, not even Arsenal?
Which big club wanted Özil despite being offered all across Europe by RM, apart from Arsenal?
And which big club wanted Sanchez apart from Arsenal?
And which big club wanted Chicharito apart from RM? At least Arsenal considered Welbeck good enough to pay us £ 16 mil, RM didn't even do that for Chicharito. For all your insistence Milan or Inter could had him, but where were the bids? The club would have happily given him away for less than what they got for Welbeck. Chicharito's agent has been talking for years now, so for all we know he could have been behind those not even strong rumours. But we only have facts which are that a club valued Welbeck at 16 mil while the biggest club in the world only paid a 1 mil loan fee for Chicharito.
And which big club wanted Mata apart from us?
You see, Welbeck is not in bad company at all. He might not be as good as those players, but he is also at least 3-4 years younger than all those players and nowhere as average as you make him sound.
1. Probably their bid was the highest.
2. Because we don't need him.
3. Welbeck is 2 months shy of 24. Falcao at 23 has scored over 30 goals in his final season at Porto. Welbeck is simply not good enough to lead the line, and in the season when he scored 2 goals in 40 games says something about his finishing abilities.
4. Wilson is nothing like Welbeck, the lad is a better finisher already.
Fergie bought a lot of players and broke a lot of transfer records over they years. We brought in 6 players. Something that Fergie replicated in the middle 90's and middle 00's.
LvG already gave Blackett a chance we also have Januzaj coming through the ranks, let's not forget Rafael as well who was bought as a teenager.
I don't know how long it will take for some people to realize that Welbeck is just not good enough.
Oh, also, I don't like how we've completely got rid of pace from our front line...
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