Great prospect... would like to see him perform well in the run of games he is going to get. We really do look better with him in the side.
Danny Welbeck | 2011-14 Performances
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Didn't he force the save from the keeper that led to our goal? at any rate I felt we looked more dangerous with him on, I'd like to see him get a run of starts now.
Agreed Hectic. I've always felt more comfortable with Welbeck on the pitch then Hernandez to be honest, and that is not a slight on Chicarito. Both are excellent strikers, but I feel that we're better against a tight defense when playing with Danny up top, as he's better in his link-up play and offers an extra dimension with his creativity. He's a good fit to have infront of Rooney in the 4-2-3-1 system, as he both offers passing-qualities, pace and strenght. He might not be as technically gifted as Berbatov, or as quick as Hernandez, but the fact that he's such an allarounder makes me more comfortable with him on the pitch. And he got a great workrate aswell, which is important with the way we're set up these days.
Should have been 10 mins earlier IMO.At least offers an aerial threat considering how many crosses came in.I really hope he can get a run now.
The thing is, Hernandez is just unbelievably clinical, and it's hard to argue playing strikers ahead of him when his goal ratio is as high as it is, but at the same time he just does not have the quality on the ball that Welbeck has. Welbeck will do more to bring himself into the game, or to take hold of the game, Hernandez often drifts out of peripheral for long periods of the match, but how can you drop him when his end product is that good. It's a dilemma really as we look a better team with Welbeck in, but then Hernandez is solely responsible for so many of our winning results. I wonder how the two together would look with Rooney behind them.
The great thing about Welbeck is his attitude. He knows whats expected of him at United in terms of work rate and commitment. He brings a whole different dimension to our play, more so than Hernandez who primarily relies on service from team mates and half chances. Its great for us that we have such different options up top...Given our current problems him starting ahead of the mexican isnt a bad shout.
He deserves a hell of a lot of praise for his development over the last 18months.
He deserves a hell of a lot of praise for his development over the last 18months.
I wonder how many people were saying just that when Rooney missed that cross from Nani?
Think it's case of horses for courses.Our best team in 99 had a very clinical finisher OGS on the bench more often along with Sheringham, in favour of the Cole/Yorke partnership.I'd like to see how Hernandez operates with Welbeck
Yupp, he is. The problem (as I see it) is that we are facing so many teams who are happy to park the bus and hope to grind out a point. I feel that Hernandez is utilised alot better against bigger teams who're leaving more space behind as they go forward. Last season he was able to get behind more often, as the opposition didnt know what to expect from him, but it's seems to be harder this season. This is why I'd prefer Welbeck in those games where we're dominate, but just cant seem to do anything decent in the final third, as he's more mobile in terms of trying to receive a pass, rather then being at the end of a cross. I think that, combined with a brilliant Cleverley, was one of the reasons why we looked as fluid as we did in the earlier stages of the season.
Agreed. The instant he came on he gave us a bit of drive through the centre, something that we hadn't had for the rest of the game.
Definitely, his attitude is superb. There's not many more players I want to succeed than Danny Welbeck, he's a fantastic talent and his attitude to United as always been examplary. I used to think he had real quality and potential, but as you say the development to reach the stage he is at now is excellent, and a good example to other youngsters at what can be achieved with dedication. I get this feeling and it's probably far from the truth, that Welbeck takes the whole thing so seriously, or he seems to understand how big an oppertunity he has. His first touch when he came on, driving through the midfield with the ball, that's the kind of purpose that emodies our style of football and approach.
Yep, but in fairness Rooney is clinical enough to bury those kind of chances. But perhaps that is what makes Hernandez so special, his absence of any real lapse in concentration on these kind of chances.
Good point, I think it can work well either way really. If we predominantly play Hernandez, than we get the goal rate he provides, and Welbeck is slowly blooded into the first team throughout the season. If it's the other way around, great as well, we are a stronger team for 90 minutes with Welbeck on, but perhaps not as clinical. Me too, I'd love to see an extended run of Welbeck in behind Hernandez, with both playing ahead of Rooney, who occupies an advanced AM role.
It's true, the quality of our opposition and their objective out of the game will dictate how they line up defensively, and Hernandez is at his very best when he's up against a high line, able to exploit the space in behind and around defenders, his running direct and behind that last line is his most lethal ability. When we come up against a team ready to set up two blocks of four, his quality is usually reduced to coming inside to the near post on crosses from the wings. He's not nearly as effective overall, and dependant on our wingers being able to provide, but he's still extremely good at what he does. I find when we are up against a team willing to defend near enough to a man behind the ball, we don't have enough of that play from our strikers or attackers, trying to utilize the early ball and space on the near side, especially given Nani's production and Valencia's likelyhood to play a cutting, low ball in.
Welbeck in this type of game is worthwhile as he has a lot more quality on the ball in terms of skill and possesion, and his distrubition is clearly on a higher level to Hernandez, so if we are stuck around the box, he's more likely to unlock a pass or make space for a shot. That's perhaps the value in having both playing today, it leaves us equipped to handle both scenario's where we play an open defence, or a team willing to essentially spend their time defending.
I'd play him ahead of Hernandez as of now. Better all-round play.
Our problem is not finishing our chances, this season we've been bloody clinical. It's creating them. He causes more problems to the defence, and creates more space and chances, than Hernandez.
Our problem is not finishing our chances, this season we've been bloody clinical. It's creating them. He causes more problems to the defence, and creates more space and chances, than Hernandez.
I think they'd benefit from having one another in the same team. They'd be a very good pairing imo because they're both players that creates space with their movement.
Both pressure the opponents defense and both bust a gut to be in the box to score goals.
Been very good today. His movement and passing today has been very good.
As good a player Hernandez is - I just love what Welbeck gives us.
He's been Fresh alright. Lets hope he doesn't get in a trouble or his mum'll get scared and send him to his auntie's and his uncle's in bel air.
Aside from his finishing, everything else was excellent.
Dizzy Welbeck does it again.
fantastic performance from him.
fantastic performance from him.
Ok we get it Mockney.
He was great today, just needs to be a bit more ruthless in front of goal.
very good performance today. should have finished it off with a goal
If he could finish as well, he would be super. But the goals will come, he's so young that there's no worry. Class player.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We simply look so much better going forward whenever Welbeck is playing.
Brilliant young players, gives us the runs into space upfront but can also build up and get past his man. He will be a complete striker
very nice game but a finish would have made it an excellent one.
Played really really well. Great strenght, good first touch and pace. He has all what it takes.
I don't think you do.
You're right I don't, explain it to me.
He has great control and always a willing runner. Just needs to start timing his runs better.
Thought he was really good today. Makes brilliant runs and is always involved in build up play.
Very encouraging stuff.
Very encouraging stuff.
I love it when he starts. He's such a classy player and adds so much to our overall play.
Lovely weight of passing from him today, shame there was no goal.
Well he comes from Longsight, an impoverished and notoriously dangerous gang area of Manchester. And with the recent high profile transgressions of Ravel Morrison, his mother has been increasingly worried that he'll fall into a similar trap, thus endagering his promising career as footballer and light entertainment rapper/movie star.
Like I said, if only there was a way of combining Welbeck's play and Hernandez' finishing. 
We should really sign Dj Jazzy Jeff if we want to get the best out of him.
I see, you couldn't put that into a little rap for me could ya?
No. That would be trivialising a quite sensitive, family issue.
My bad.
Like I said, if only there was a way of combining Welbeck's play and Hernandez' finishing.
Welbeck's finishing is actually quite good. Rarely misses when he's one on one with the keeper.
His finishing is one of his strengths. He's young, sometimes their finishing is inconsistent.
you've just been mockney'd. not to worry...you're not the first and certainly won't be the last.
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