Danny Ings / signs for Villa

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Why anybody would want to sign the most easily injured player in the world (after the person in first place who we already have at the club - Jones) is beyond me.

He’s a good player but we don’t want to be filling the squad with injury prone players. I mean, is he on a free?
 
RUCK4444 said:
Why anybody would want to sign the most easily injured player in the world (after the person in first place who we already have at the club - Jones) is beyond me.

He’s a good player but we don’t want to be filling the squad with injury prone players. I mean, is he on a free?
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I think he has one year left on his contract so we would need to pay a transfer fee for him.
 
It would allow us to properly manage Cavani and not be so reliant on him which at 34 years old is the obvious thing to do. I'm hoping it wouldn't mean we're sticking with just Greenwood for the RW and passing on Sancho, though..? Getting Ings would basically mean Greenwood would hardly feature at all up front I'd imagine.
 
Definitely would take ings on the cheap. Solid PL striker. If Cavani leaves end of next season that still gives Utd space to fond a long term no10.

One year left on his contract, how much do you think saints would accept? £20mil ?
 
VP89 said:
Actually, they weren't Alan Smith wasn't some superstar name or a big player. Nor are a lot of value signings Fergie made to fit his squad, taking Antonio Valencia, Park, Owen as other examples of attritions to the squad who had varying degrees of positive impact, moreso than expected.

Besides, Ings is of higher quality. Your evaluation is based on him being no better than the calibre of a Southampton side, which is simply wrong. He's a very, very good striker capable of 20+ goals when fit. To suggest he's not of a sufficient quality is bonkers. You shot yourself in the foot by looking at goal stats.
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Why sign another player who "when fit" is very very good?

Your response when I pointed out that Lambert scored almost as many goals for Southampton as Ings.

VP89 said:
Looking at isolated figures is really tiring. He has 13 goals in 30 games. Cavani has 16 in 38 games. By your logic, Cavani is probably not our standard either
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I shot myself in the foot by looking at goal stats but looking at isolated figures is tiring?

Your argument boils down to he's good when fit, scored a few goals for Southampton and Fergie signed players like him in the past.

I simply say he's not good enough to play for Man Utd as a backup or first team striker. Is not any better than the options currently at the club and is not really needed.
 
We are not going to be signing Ings. If there's one thing Ole looks for in his signings, it's a decent fitness record. Plus he played for them lot. That's enough for me to not want him.
 
The United of today would be summed if we after being linked with the likes of Kane and Halaand, we end up buying Ings. He's not even close to the quality we require...
 
wise_old_man said:
May be Martial and Lingard can be used in a swap deal for Haaland/Kane?
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Would assume if there are rumours about Ings then we aren't after either of them. Sancho as a big purchase and any other signings will be cheaper squad options.
 
sullydnl said:
That's all fine in terms of how you rate him as that's your opinion but it doesn't reflect how much he would actually play if he arrived.

We know Solskjaer has said it will be years before Greenwood is ready to become a CF, we know Cavani struggles to play back to back games, we know Ings is a more natural #9 than Martial and has been outscoring him in recent seasons. Because of that, Ings would play a hell of a lot more than someone like Ighalo. Because Ings is good enough to be a starting striker for a PL team where Ighalo very much wasn't. Whether you personally would want him to play that much is neither here nor there in terms of whether he'd get gametime he'd be happy with.
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Yeah I just don't put that much into one comment Ole made. Greenwood will be a starting RW for a few years if we sign someone like Kane, he'll be a CF before long if we sign a RW like Sancho. Ole isn't exactly rigid or consistent in how he deploys players, numerous players get moved positions regularly by him.
 
All I will say is that there was a lot of resistance on here to signing Cavani last summer
“He hasn’t played”, “he’s unfit”, “he’s finished” etc

can’t be any worse goal scoring than Martial surely?

not saying we will sign him btw, I’m just not writing him off. When fit he’s one of the best in the PL
 
Very underrated player capable of scoring 20+ goals a season. Injuries are my only concern with him but if he’s available for a reasonable price I’d certainly take a punt on him.
 
Mainoldo said:
Jadon Sancho or Danny Ings. Hmmmmm
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It would presumably be both.

The point of signing a player like Ings would be that it keeps the CF position ticking over for another season at a cheap rate so you can spend money on other areas of the pitch, like RW or wherever. Then when Cavani leaves we'd actually invest properly in that position.

Whereas obviously Kane or Haaland would be better signings at CF this summer, but they would inevitably mean spending less on other positions too.

If it was Ings instead of strengthening both CF and RW fully then I don't think any of us would be interested.
 
RedRonaldo said:
From Haaland, Kane, Ronaldo etc to Ings.
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This isnt football manager or fifa. You need a balance to your squad. Ings is a proven PL goalscorer. He's not gonna demand to start every game. Has abilities we lack if Cavani is injured or rested. We have drawn too many games this season, having a traditional front man as an option isnt a bad thing. Also it gives greenwood more time to develop without the pressure of having to score x amount of goals next season.

You have to work within your budget, if buying Ings means we can buy a CB and another player or two then thats no bad thing. I'd love Kane at Utd but we're not the club that just won the PL and have a CL final to play.
 
I'd take Ings + Sancho instead of Kane if we had a choice.
Ings is massively underrated on here and he is miles better than Martial, because he's an actual focal point of the attack and can hold the ball up.
I hope we sell Martial this summer, he's had 1 1/2 good seasons in 6 years and last season was utterly dreadful.
 
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We get Ings and Kane goes to City its game over for us ever thinking about closing the gap to City. I don't think we will be in with a sniff for Kane as frankly his price will be ludicrous however, there are better striking option in Europe and in the UK that won't be a joke of a price than settling for Ings someone who flopped at our most bitter rivals. Calvert-Lewin would be a good shout for me if Martial was to leave or Patrick Bamford from Leeds would be better than Ings. Or Andre Silva from Frankfurt, Alexander Isak from Sociedad or even Moreno from Villareal. We need to be smart like Leicester have been, players I have mentioned wouldn't be a rip off price too. If we settle for Ings my expectations for next season will be nil.
 
dinostar77 said:
This isnt football manager or fifa. You need a balance to your squad. Ings is a proven PL goalscorer. He's not gonna demand to start every game. Has abilities we lack if Cavani is injured or rested. We have drawn too many games this season, having a traditional front man as an option isnt a bad thing. Also it gives greenwood more time to develop without the pressure of having to score x amount of goals next season.

You have to work within your budget, if buying Ings means we can buy a CB and another player or two then thats no bad thing. I'd love Kane at Utd but we're not the club that just won the PL and have a CL final to play.
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Not saying he will be bad signing at all. Just saying... in the market where Haaland, Kane, or even Ronaldo would be available (who guarantee any teams 30+ goals), and our rivals are looking to sign these players, we end up linking with Ings.
 
golden_blunder said:
All I will say is that there was a lot of resistance on here to signing Cavani last summer
“He hasn’t played”, “he’s unfit”, “he’s finished” etc

can’t be any worse goal scoring than Martial surely?

not saying we will sign him btw, I’m just not writing him off. When fit he’s one of the best in the PL
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Better scoring record than both Martial and Rashford, Martial league wise still scores more frequently than Rashford despite how shit he has been this year.

I'd be up for letting him go in exchange for a top class forward but if he is staying I'd be alright with Ings as long as we get a CB, DM and preferably Sancho.

If its an Ings and Ben White type summer I'd be royally pissed.
 
ROFLUTION said:
the guy scored 22 goals in the prem last season. Cavani cant play all matches
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Yeah but do we really want to be swapping and changing between a permanently crocked player and a player getting on so can only play certain matches?

That's a less than perfect mish mash approach in a season where ultimately if we do not properly challenge City the managers job will be on the line.

Manchester United should have an elite level no 9 in their prime. End of.
 
TrueRed1999 said:
We get Ings and Kane goes to City its game over for us ever thinking about closing the gap to City. I don't think we will be in with a sniff for Kane as frankly his price will be ludicrous however, there are better striking option in Europe and in the UK that won't be a joke of a price than settling for Ings someone who flopped at our most bitter rivals. Calvert-Lewin would be a good shout for me if Martial was to leave or Patrick Bamford from Leeds would be better than Ings. Or Andre Silva from Frankfurt, Alexander Isak from Sociedad or even Moreno from Villareal. We need to be smart like Leicester have been, players I have mentioned wouldn't be a rip off price too. If we settle for Ings my expectations for next season will be nil.
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How would Patrick Bamford of all people be better? He's only a year younger than Ings, would be quite a bit more expensive and is a notoriously erratic and unreliable finisher.
 
RUCK4444 said:
Why anybody would want to sign the most easily injured player in the world (after the person in first place who we already have at the club - Jones) is beyond me.

He’s a good player but we don’t want to be filling the squad with injury prone players. I mean, is he on a free?
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RUCK4444 said:
Yeah but do we really want to be swapping and changing between a permanently crocked player and a player getting on so can only play certain matches?
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He’s missed 23 games through injury since his knee surgery in 2017.

Stop exaggerating.
 
sullydnl said:
How would Patrick Bamford of all people be better? He's only a year younger than Ings, would be quite a bit more expensive and is a notoriously erratic and unreliable finisher.
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He scored more than ings this season to start and looks a much better player.
 
TrueRed1999 said:
He scored more than ings this season to start and looks a much better player.
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Ings scored more goals in the PL last year than Bamford has managed to score in any season at any level (PL, Championship, or league 1) over a career that has seen him regularly derided as a poor finisher even by his own fans. Even in this surprisingly successful season for him, he has been a below average finisher.
 
I thought the idea of keeping Cavani another season and signing Sancho was that Mason was going to be blooded in a lot more as a striker next season, I could see why they'd disrupt that plan if we could get Kane, but not for Ings.
 
RUCK4444 said:
Yeah but do we really want to be swapping and changing between a permanently crocked player and a player getting on so can only play certain matches?

That's a less than perfect mish mash approach in a season where ultimately if we do not properly challenge City the managers job will be on the line.

Manchester United should have an elite level no 9 in their prime. End of.
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Permanently injured? Seems like you got something personally against him haha.

He's not permanently injured. He might be injured some of the season, but he plays at least 25-29 games a season, which is enough for whatever role he would have at United
 
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