Danny Ings / signs for Villa

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It would be a Jota like signing (Jota is younger I know). If the price is decent enough why not? He can rotate with Cavani as well as with our other (wannabe) strikers.
 
Always been a fan of his and as a squad option I would love him here, lethal finisher when he wants to be and a pure number 9 who is a different approach than Cavani, for the right price he could be a steal as a Martial replacement maybe unless he is prepared to rotate with Rashford on the LW.
 
Let's be honest.

Southampton is his level.

Not a chance he should even be considered if winning the league is the target.
Which Southampton? The one that was top of the league for a few days, or the one with relegation worthy form after it?
 
Obvious smokescreen for Kane.

Will really teach Levy a lesson as if he doesn't go for a sensible fee for Kane, we'll simply trouser 42million into Ings. Bargain.
 
Those who are against this signing- tell.me a better backup option than Ings. With just one year remaining, he could be available for 10m.

He and Trippier for 20m combined would be an excellent business.
 
Nah, he's a much higher calibre of player.
That’s just nonsense. He was almost the leagues top scorer just last year.

Is it really? Is he really?

Martial and Rashford scored 17 each last season, he scored 22. This season he has 12 goals. Rickie Lambert scored almost as many goals as him for Southampton. Chris Wood has more goals than him this season. Is he good enough?

Where's he gonna go? On the bench? A 29 year old playing back up to a 35 year old striker? He's decent, but he's not good enough for a team that wants to win the league.

Which Southampton? The one that was top of the league for a few days, or the one with relegation worthy form after it?

The one that sits around 15th in the table every year.
 
Those who are against this signing- tell.me a better backup option than Ings. With just one year remaining, he could be available for 10m.

He and Trippier for 20m combined would be an excellent business.

Edinson Cavani. Buy an even better striker and Cavani provides the depth. That's how you build a squad, not by deliberately buying players who aren't as good as the ones you already have.

Also is there any confirmation he would only cost 10 mil? Even 10 years ago Ashley Young cost 17 mil in the final year of his contract. I can't see Southampton selling their only real goal threat on the cheap regardless of how little time is left on his contract.
 
He's alright. A bit injury prone, and I'd rather just keep Martial anyway.
 
If we want a bargain-basement striker, he's a good pick. 22 goals for Southampton last year isn't nothing. Also, he's generally a good player beyond that high-mark season.

Whether we do want a bargain-basement striker rather than a top class pick is another matter. But obviously we have a budget to work within, so some signings may well be at that level.
 
Is it really? Is he really?
Yes.
Martial and Rashford scored 17 each last season, he scored 22.

So he scored more than Martial and Rashford, both of whom were surrounded by better talent and were regarded as having their best seasons yet.
This season he has 12 goals. Rickie Lambert scored almost as many goals as him for Southampton. Chris Wood has more goals than him this season. Is he good enough?
Looking at isolated figures is really tiring. He has 13 goals in 30 games. Cavani has 16 in 38 games. By your logic, Cavani is probably not our standard either.
Where's he gonna go? On the bench? A 29 year old playing back up to a 35 year old striker? He's decent, but he's not good enough for a team that wants to win the league.

The one that sits around 15th in the table every year.
He's a squad option, but when fit he's very capable of playing for any of the top 4 sides. His build up play, finishing and general link up is quite underrated.

Also you need to get this concept out of your mind which suggests we need a world beater in every position to win the league. Squads win titles, and Ings would be a very good addition to it.
 
If we can get him for £10m or so and then go all in for Håland next year, happy days.
 
Would take him. He’s obviously an option off the bench and for rotation.
 
If the club is serious in pursuing Ings, what would be an acceptable fee for him?

He is 29 in two months, and has a years left on his current contract.

for me, 20M pounds as a maximum is ok, he has done well in the last couple of seasons but his injury record is a reason for concern.
 
I mean presumably if we signed him it would mean Martial being sold?

In which case you'd be freeing funds for other transfers by selling our second-choice striker Martial (369min per PL goal this season, 154 min per PL goal last season) to buy Ings (174min per PL goal this season, 127 min per PL goal last season). And Ings got those goals while playing in a worse side.

I doubt it will actually happen but if the club has lost patience with Martial then it would hardly be the worst way to redirect resources.
 
When it looked like Cavani wasn't going to stay I thought he was an ok stop-gap option until the 2022 summer window, but I don't see any heed for him now.
 
Edinson Cavani. Buy an even better striker and Cavani provides the depth. That's how you build a squad, not by deliberately buying players who aren't as good as the ones you already have.

Also is there any confirmation he would only cost 10 mil? Even 10 years ago Ashley Young cost 17 mil in the final year of his contract. I can't see Southampton selling their only real goal threat on the cheap regardless of how little time is left on his contract.

I asked you to name a striker and you named Cavani. I will repeat, name a striker who would be a better option ? Don't tell me Kane because he isn't coming cheap and we don't have that money.
 
I asked you to name a striker and you named Cavani. I will repeat, name a striker who would be a better option ? Don't tell me Kane because he isn't coming cheap and we don't have that money.

I didn't name one because I don't think we should be in the market for "a backup option". The whole premise is faulty. If we want to improve our striking options we should go big for a top shelf striker, even if it has to wait until next summer.

Striker isn't our main priority in this window anyway, CB, RW, and CDM are much more important.
 
£20m or less would be a super deal for us. Great rotation option. Obviously if we're signing Sancho and not going after Kane this window.

Martial and Rashford are not number 9s and should never again ever be considered as number 9s. They're both rubbish there and have no future there.

Right now the only viable backup to Cavani is Greenwood in the entire squad, and he has no physical presence and in any case is still better on the wing at this stage in his development.


RW: Sancho, Greenwood
ST: Cavani, Ings
LW: Rashford, Martial
 
I do like Ings but I'd rather give Martial another year to see how he responds, to me he was one of our best players last season.
 
Yes.


So he scored more than Martial and Rashford, both of whom were surrounded by better talent and were regarded as having their best seasons yet.

Looking at isolated figures is really tiring. He has 13 goals in 30 games. Cavani has 16 in 38 games. By your logic, Cavani is probably not our standard either.

He's a squad option, but when fit he's very capable of playing for any of the top 4 sides. His build up play, finishing and general link up is quite underrated.

Also you need to get this concept out of your mind which suggests we need a world beater in every position to win the league. Squads win titles, and Ings would be a very good addition to it.


I don't.

I don't think buying a 29 year to play backup to a 35 year old is good business. Cavani should be the back up next year to a proper long term solution.

May as well just keep Martial in reserve instead of wasting money on Ings.
 
I didn't name one because I don't think we should be in the market for "a backup option". The whole premise is faulty. If we want to improve our striking options we should go big for a top shelf striker, even if it has to wait until next summer.

Striker isn't our main priority in this window anyway, CB, RW, and CDM are much more important.
Well, that's now how it works. One injury to Cavani and we are left with Greenwood as our only striker option. We need a striker- be a backup or starter and there aren't better options available.
 
Well, that's now how it works. One injury to Cavani and we are left with Greenwood as our only striker option. We need a striker- be a backup or starter and there aren't better options available.

Hard disagree. We waste money on Ings and we're stuck with a player who in two years we'll all be calling deadwood and desperate to offload. I'm fine with keeping Greenwood and Martial as backup. We can use that money better this summer. Even if he just cost 10 million, that's 10 million that might make all the difference between getting Sancho or not.
 
I don't.

I don't think buying a 29 year to play backup to a 35 year old is good business. Cavani should be the back up next year to a proper long term solution.

May as well just keep Martial in reserve instead of wasting money on Ings.

There might not be a proper long term option the club think is suitable or attainable this summer and Martial is not working hard enough for us.

Even if they do fancy their chances with somebody like Kane, they probably know it is by no means guaranteed that we can meet the demands of Tottenham in this economic landscape, or that we can beat other interested parties to his signature. Similar case with Haaland, maybe Haaland is not even likely to move until next summer. The point is there are many things to consider and while we went a top 9, we can't wave a wand and so there has to be a plan for next year for all eventualities.

It might be that Ings is on a secondary list of players that can come in and do the job for a year alongside Cavani, and then move into a primarily squad based role thereafter. He's not necessarily target number one but there is merit to the link in my opinion. I think this is the reason he's linked with a few top clubs.
 
Not the biggest fan of this. Good striker but not where I hope we’re aiming transfer wise - their system suits him really well whereas I’m not sure ours would. If we’re going down that bargain PL player route I’d want someone like Watkins or Wilson for the added mobility/out and out pace.

As an edit. Or rather we try and lure Richarlisson here. I think he thrive with us.
 
There might not be a proper long term option the club think is suitable or attainable this summer and Martial is not working hard enough for us.

Even if they do fancy their chances with somebody like Kane, they probably know it is by no means guaranteed that we can meet the demands of Tottenham in this economic landscape, or that we can beat other interested parties to his signature. Similar case with Haaland, maybe Haaland is not even likely to move until next summer. The point is there are many things to consider and while we went a top 9, we can't wave a wand and so there has to be a plan for next year for all eventualities.

It might be that Ings is on a secondary list of players that can come in and do the job for a year alongside Cavani, and then move into a primarily squad based role thereafter.

I think this is likely.
 
That’s just nonsense. He was almost the leagues top scorer just last year.
James Beattie was almost the leagues top scorer at Southampton once. Didn’t mean he was good enough for a title challenger. He’s not a bad player. And he’d be as good a back up as you could hope for. Cavani should be fulfilling that role though.
 
Depends on the price, if its a bargain deal he'd instantly be one of the best finishers in the squad. Smart business potentially. I'd trust him in front of goal more than Martial.
 
I don't.

I don't think buying a 29 year to play backup to a 35 year old is good business. Cavani should be the back up next year to a proper long term solution.

May as well just keep Martial in reserve instead of wasting money on Ings.
If we deem Sancho & a CB a greater priority, there is no other striker we can move for without breaking the bank. So it's still good business - what striker would you rather?

I'd agree with you if we had Ings and no Sancho + CB. But if Ings is a supplement to other big transfers I don't see the issue.
 
Wouldn't want him based solely on the fact he's an ex Liverpool player.
 
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