Daniele De Rossi

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Ayee, he has been the standout in this game for me, even more impressive than Pirlo.

He's playing 10 yards or so further forward so is under a lot of pressure but his passing has been excellent. He plays it foward as well, picked out some great balls. Then like you say he is a work horse and extremely tough in the tackle. Complete midfield performance so far!
 
Ive been saying that he's an excellent player for years.
 
Two absolutely crunching tackles, what a fecking class performance that was. He and Pirlo were bossing it today.
 
Think he's the closest thing to Keane that there's been with an even greater passing range, tremendous with both feet. In-form I think he's just as much a joy to watch as Pirlo.
 
Two absolutely crunching tackles, what a fecking class performance that was. He and Pirlo were bossing it today.

Aye wasn't that superb, then few seconds later swung a great pass over the top from Di Natale. He's great in a counter attacking side as he's got a great eye and execution for a pass with either foot, and a lot of the more difficult passes are one touch where many would control and dither on it first. He just looks an all round very good midfielder.
 
Think he's the closest thing to Keane that there's been with an even greater passing range, tremendous with both feet. In-form I think he's just as much a joy to watch as Pirlo.

It is definitely a good comparison, but he isn't as good defensively as Keane, either positionally or in the tackle. Plus Keane has a better engine and is just generally fitter than De Rossi.

He does seem to have a better passing range though, or more accurately probably a better eye for a creative pass. Some of the passes he just slips round the defenders are superb, often one touch stuff as well which is so impressive.

Also he lacks Keane's consistency. This tournament has been the best I have seen him play, he seems at the top of his game. At the last world cup he was pretty shit, his passing literally wasn't in the same league as it has been this Euros.

As good as he is and as apt the comprison is, Keane is still better IMO. He is just the ultimate midfielder whereas De Rossi is comfortably a level below!
 
He's been immense in this tournament

That's the thing, I don't know how world class he is ultimately but he has it in him to be that...Just painfully inconsistent, an icon for his club

Truth is a lot of the Italians have enjoyed a phenomenal tournament...It's just one of those runs where certain things click just right - I'm sure training sessions are scintillating
 
It is definitely a good comparison, but he isn't as good defensively as Keane, either positionally or in the tackle. Plus Keane has a better engine and is just generally fitter than De Rossi.

He does seem to have a better passing range though, or more accurately probably a better eye for a creative pass. Some of the passes he just slips round the defenders are superb, often one touch stuff as well which is so impressive.

Also he lacks Keane's consistency. This tournament has been the best I have seen him play, he seems at the top of his game. At the last world cup he was pretty shit, his passing literally wasn't in the same league as it has been this Euros.

As good as he is and as apt the comprison is, Keane is still better IMO. He is just the ultimate midfielder whereas De Rossi is comfortably a level below!
I find it hard to think objectively about Keane given how much he meant to United but I agree, I just can't think of another player who's come as close to what Keane embodied.

Consistency is an issue but never as big a one as is made out I think. He was definitely out of form in 2010, but as predictable as Italy's success has been this time around, equally predictable was their failure then. It was a team without imagination, without flair players meaning far too much of the creative burden was placed on De Rossi, he was expected to do everything in that team. His passing was wretched at times & he didn't carry the side as needed, but he certainly wasn't terrible in all 3 games.

I think he was more mobile a few years ago, or at least spent much more time further forward. His passing seemed to dip as he moved back but is back to its best this season, he's so good with both feet. I think he's just matured so well, he offers great protection to the defence (I agree about him being a lesser player positionally, but disagree about him being any worse than Keane in the tackle). Playing alongside someone as clever in their movement as Marchisio, he has the luxury to pick his moments when to get forward, something I think he's done well all tournament.

If he looked bad at times in defence for Roma this season, I think it's only because of how bad Roma were defensively all season. Juan was their only reliable defender.
 
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football...-City-board-set-to-land-him-Daniele-De-Rossi/

ROBERTO MANCINI’S rant at the Manchester City board looks set to land him his dream player, Daniele De Rossi.

Mancini had been desperate to sign the Roma playmaker last summer and in the January transfer window.

But the money men at City refused to sanction the deal and De Rossi signed a new contract with the Serie A side in February, which ties him to the club until 2017.

Frustrated at a lack of signings this summer, Mancini has been pestering football director Brian Marwood to back his move for the 28-year-old. Mancini now seems to have got his way with City ready to pay just under £24m for Di Rossi.

The Roma vice-captain has been capped 78 times by Italy and proved his versatility by playing at centre-half against Spain and Croatia during the group games of Euro 2012, where the Azzurri went on to reach the final before losing 4-0 to Spain.

Mancini has made no secret of his admiration for his fellow Italian. In January he said: “De Rossi is a champion and would be the perfect man to improve City.”

He has also been forthright about his frustation at the lack of signings for the champions, while title rivals Manchester United, Chelsea and even Arsenal have been busy in the transfer market.

City’s board appear reluctant to sanction the sort of bid which would prise Robin van Persie from Arsenal. The Gunners want £30m, but an offer of £20m is thought to be enough to end the saga.

Asked about the absence of any signings, Mancini said: “For this question, speak to the man in charge. I am not in charge of this. It is important to sign players early because, after what we did last year, it is important we continue to win.”

The Italian has been ordered to slash his wage bill and offload some of his strikers before he can launch an all-out attempt to land the Dutchman.

City beat Arsenal 2-0 in Beijing yesterday thanks to goals from Pablo Zabaletta and Yaya Toure.

But Ivorian Toure is still planning to play in the African Nations Cup again in January.

City’s form tailed off when the midfield powerhouse was away for six weeks in the middle of last season helping Ivory Coast reach the final.

The tournament, normally on a two-year cycle, is being staged again in January to avoid it falling in years when the World Cup and European Championships are staged.

There were suggestions that 29-year-old Toure would quit international football after Ivory Coast’s shock defeat in a penalty shoot-out to Zambia in February.

But now he has confirmed that he and elder brother Kolo, 31, have unfinished business with their country.

He said: “Me and my Kolo have spent a long time playing for the national team and we haven’t won anything yet.

“International success is something I want to achieve. I am a winner and I want to win everything possible. I haven’t done enough for my country.

“Sometimes it doesn’t happen for you but after our country’s defeat to Zambia in February we have even more motivation.”
 
Please no. He's such a great footballer und I don't want to hate him for playing at city
 
Is anyone around here familiar with the history of Roma players at all? I'm wondering if they have a tradition of being able to keep their best players.

Totti was a life long Roma player, born in Rome just like Di Rossi. Totti is going to retire with Roma and I get the same feeling from Di Rossi. I've had the pleasure of going to Rome, it's a really remarkable place, what a home town in which to be a hero, and what a remarkable cultural heritage, who would want to leave that?
 
Please no. He's such a great footballer und I don't want to hate him for playing at city

He's not as good as Carrick.

Fergie has recently acknowledged a problem in midfield, but said that he hasn't tried to buy anybody because " players like Scholes and Carrick are hard to find nowadays".

This guy has been around for years at a lesser club, but Fergie hasn't acted. The conclusion is clear: he's not good enough for our midfield, and couldn't do the job 37 y.o Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick do.
 
He's not as good as Carrick.

Fergie has recently acknowledged a problem in midfield, but said that he hasn't tried to buy anybody because " players like Scholes and Carrick are hard to find nowadays".

This guy has been around for years at a lesser club, but Fergie hasn't acted. The conclusion is clear: he's not good enough for our midfield, and couldn't do the job 37 y.o Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick do.

Or he's never going to leave Roma.
 
He's not as good as Carrick.

Fergie has recently acknowledged a problem in midfield, but said that he hasn't tried to buy anybody because " players like Scholes and Carrick are hard to find nowadays".

This guy has been around for years at a lesser club, but Fergie hasn't acted. The conclusion is clear: he's not good enough for our midfield, and couldn't do the job 37 y.o Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick do.

Clubs not being interested in him has to do with his loyalty for Roma not because he isnt good enough. He's a very good player.
 
Or he's never going to leave Roma.

That possibility exists, but it mars the purity of the polemic, so I refuse to acknowledge it.

On a serious note, to say that we could have bought no one as good as Michael Carrick stretches credibility. Good player, and worth his place in the side, but hardly a worldbeater.
 
That possibility exists, but it mars the purity of the polemic, so I refuse to acknowledge it.

On a serious note, to say that we could have bought no one as good as Michael Carrick stretches credibility. Good player, and worth his place in the side, but hardly a worldbeater.

Who's better than Carrick and available?
 
That possibility exists, but it mars the purity of the polemic, so I refuse to acknowledge it.

On a serious note, to say that we could have bought no one as good as Michael Carrick stretches credibility. Good player, and worth his place in the side, but hardly a worldbeater.

Oh right so it's a swipe at Carrick rather than a comment on De Rossi

Well Carricks been an excellent signing for Utd, you can't really argue with the teams record since he was signed. But this isn't the thread for it.
 
He's not as good as Carrick.

Fergie has recently acknowledged a problem in midfield, but said that he hasn't tried to buy anybody because " players like Scholes and Carrick are hard to find nowadays".

This guy has been around for years at a lesser club, but Fergie hasn't acted. The conclusion is clear: he's not good enough for our midfield, and couldn't do the job 37 y.o Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick do.

I think that De Rossi is better than Carrick (based on seeing hundreds of games of both of them, not in stats). We cannot know why Fergie hasn't tried to sign him, but chances of him leaving Roma are very low. Like Totti who many times refused Madrid, I think that De Rossi too will play in Roma until the end of his career.
 
I think he's to loyal to roma to ever leave them, he's a top notch player adds some serious steel in the tackle and is very good with both feet. I'm sure fergie has tried having a word in the past but it's not that often you see the top Italians leaving Serie A. Especially in their prime etc.
 
He's not as good as Carrick.

Fergie has recently acknowledged a problem in midfield, but said that he hasn't tried to buy anybody because " players like Scholes and Carrick are hard to find nowadays".

This guy has been around for years at a lesser club, but Fergie hasn't acted. The conclusion is clear: he's not good enough for our midfield, and couldn't do the job 37 y.o Paul Scholes and Michael Carrick do.

He's better than Carrick, quite comfortably too as a defensive midfielder. If you're talking about them as more creative midfielders, then there's maybe some room for debate but De Rossi is still probably the better player of the two.

The reason we haven't acted is simple: he doesn't want to leave Roma. As alien as it may seem, it's good to see some players still around in the modern game who actually love the club they play for and want to stay there no matter what. Even if Roma aren't the biggest, it's not like Le Tissier staying at Southampton for example. Roma are still a fairly big club who have come close in the league several times over the past decade.
 
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