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Honestly you have Zero evidence to back up that statement. Martial has all the talent but zero application
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.
 
Poor lad, horrible news. Somethings are far more important than a job or football. Good move by everyone to give him as much time as he wants.
 
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.
Bullshit.
 
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.

Blah Rules indeed.
 
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.
That’s clearly nonsense
 
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.

Yeah nothing to do with his aimless dribbles drifting in hoping for the best.

He has a lot of talent but so far he hasn't applied it properly.
 
Can you get technically better at dribbling at the age of 21? I’m not so sure, he’s going to spend an awful lot of time getting knocked on his arse in the PL.

Well as far as I'm aware you can improve at pretty much anything at age 21... Do you have any strong argument for the opposite?
 
Can you get technically better at dribbling at the age of 21? I’m not so sure, he’s going to spend an awful lot of time getting knocked on his arse in the PL.

Why not? Did you think Salah was an exceptional dribbler at Chelsea?
 
Well as far as I'm aware you can improve at pretty much anything at age 21... Do you have any strong argument for the opposite?
I’m pretty sure I read on here that technique can’t be improved past age 16.
 
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.

The zenephonbic, anti-English BS is alive and kicking. Well done.
 
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I’m pretty sure I read on here that technique can’t be improved past age 16.
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Why not? Did you think Salah was an exceptional dribbler at Chelsea?

It’s pretty clear to see, Salah is an naturally gifted footballer, mentality, immaturity and lack of physicality were his main issues at Chelsea, not his technical ability.
 
It’s pretty clear to see, Salah is an naturally gifted footballer, mentality, immaturity and lack of physicality were his main issues at Chelsea, not his technical ability.

Not for a second I thought he was especially gifted technically when he was at Chelsea. Just came across as a pacy forward with little else to offer. The right coaching in his case did wonders for him. Not that I think we have right coaching in place at United mind.
 
It’s pretty clear to see, Salah is an naturally gifted footballer, mentality, immaturity and lack of physicality were his main issues at Chelsea, not his technical ability.

Can you think of a Manchester United player this description could apply to ?
 
I’m pretty sure I read on here that technique can’t be improved past age 16.

That view was from a guy called Scholesy , and was widely ridiculed, although it’s pretty much true in my opinion. Ball control/technical ability is largely innate.

People have banged on about Chris Smalling not being technically good at football on here for years. This isn’t someone like me and you who only play football on a Thursday after work, this is someone who has played football, with top coaches and players, almost every day for about half of his life. Yet he struggles to pass the ball. You can pick the most professional and dedicated player you want. Are you saying that Lionel Messi is technically miles better than James Milner because James Milner is too lazy to work at being as good as Messi?
 
That view was from a guy called Scholesy , and was widely ridiculed, although it’s pretty much true in my opinion. Ball control/technical ability is largely innate.

People have banged on about Chris Smalling not being technically good at football on here for years. This isn’t someone like me and you who only play football on a Thursday after work, this is someone who has played football, with top coaches and players, almost every day for about half of his life. Yet he struggles to pass the ball. You can pick the most professional and dedicated player you want. Are you saying that Lionel Messi is technically miles better than James Milner because James Milner is too lazy to work at being as good as Messi?
Technique can be improved while talent can't though? Scholes was basically a number 10 who was known for coming into the box late but he learned how to become a midfield maestro as his career went on. He wasn't dipping his shoulder and finding impossible passing lanes in his early twenties?
Henry went from an inconsistent winger to a killer striker, Ronaldo basically transformed his entire game from his early twenties as well? He wasn't the genius he would become in knowing how to strike the ball cleanly in any given situation to score a goal?
I'm sure there's lesser examples that aren't as obvious as those.
 
His dribbling against Chelsea when he was at Basel was exceptional.

Dan James was the stand out player against City. His dribbling at pace tore the champions of England apart. Not saying he’s some wonderkid but there’s something to work with there for sure.
 
Martial performed better than Rashford when he had played as a striker.

Rashford has been playing striker for the last 6 months and had shown that he hasn’t got what it takes to lead but Martial already has, only reason why he is not getting the chances is because he’s not English.

I cant recall Martial ever having a great game playing as a striker . He has had some great games on the left of a 3 up front but again there is no evidence to support this other than you probably hope it happens.. Rashford might not be great at times but at least 90% of the time he tries id put Martials trying percentage at something around 20% of the time
 
That view was from a guy called Scholesy , and was widely ridiculed, although it’s pretty much true in my opinion. Ball control/technical ability is largely innate.

People have banged on about Chris Smalling not being technically good at football on here for years. This isn’t someone like me and you who only play football on a Thursday after work, this is someone who has played football, with top coaches and players, almost every day for about half of his life. Yet he struggles to pass the ball. You can pick the most professional and dedicated player you want. Are you saying that Lionel Messi is technically miles better than James Milner because James Milner is too lazy to work at being as good as Messi?

Arsene Wenger says that technical ability needs to be developed by 12.

Technique can be improved while talent can't though? Scholes was basically a number 10 who was known for coming into the box late but he learned how to become a midfield maestro as his career went on. He wasn't dipping his shoulder and finding impossible passing lanes in his early twenties?
Henry went from an inconsistent winger to a killer striker, Ronaldo basically transformed his entire game from his early twenties as well? He wasn't the genius he would become in knowing how to strike the ball cleanly in any given situation to score a goal?
I'm sure there's lesser examples that aren't as obvious as those.

Those are tactical improvements not technical.
 
Improving shooting is technical improvement?

Not always a lot of it is starting to learn what positions to get in. But, it does seem like it is the technical ability that a player is most likely to improve. But, you really do not see players improve their first touch, close control in a significant way during their professional careers.
 
Not always a lot of it is starting to learn what positions to get in. But, it does seem like it is the technical ability that a player is most likely to improve. But, you really do not see players improve their first touch, close control in a significant way during their professional careers.

I meant long range shooting. It's technique isn't it. Also free kicks is also technical improvement.
 
Christ he’s fast. Seems good with both feet. Good crosser. For 15m if we are confident we can develop and improve him, it’s a no brainer signing
 
What is being overlooked here, is the maturity to apply however gifted a player is. This is how players develop with age. The instinctive skills are what become apparent in a young player but hard work and application can multiply its effects
 
If we cant improve a 20 year old footballitically, are we really a professional football club with coaches, fascilities, technology and stuff?
 
If we cant improve a 20 year old footballitically, are we really a professional football club with coaches, fascilities, technology and stuff?

But, the thing is we can just improve the kids we already have since I do not think he is any better than the young players already at the club.
 
If we cant improve a 20 year old footballitically, are we really a professional football club with coaches, fascilities, technology and stuff?

He's turning 22 in 5 months if you're talking about James. I find it odd that posters generally reduce player's ages when being positive about them and add to their ages when being dismissive
 
But, the thing is we can just improve the kids we already have since I do not think he is any better than the young players already at the club.
We've got some very fast lads but they're taller leggy types like Chong, rashford, martial and greenwood and aren't as quick off the mark. James's flat pace is probably less than theirs but being shorter he accelerates explosively over a shorter distance in a similar way to Michael Owen. That explosiveness would add variety to our attack. IMO we don't have a player like him in the academy.
 
We've got some very fast lads but they're taller leggy types like Chong, rashford, martial and greenwood and aren't as quick off the mark. James's flat pace is probably less than theirs but being shorter he accelerates explosively over a shorter distance in a similar way to Michael Owen. That explosiveness would add variety to our attack. IMO we don't have a player like him in the academy.

James looks faster than any of those players though, at least over the length of half the pitch. His pace reminds me of a prime Valencia - remember that burst he made against Liverpool? Think he will be our fastest attacker when he joins us.
 
That view was from a guy called Scholesy , and was widely ridiculed, although it’s pretty much true in my opinion. Ball control/technical ability is largely innate.

People have banged on about Chris Smalling not being technically good at football on here for years. This isn’t someone like me and you who only play football on a Thursday after work, this is someone who has played football, with top coaches and players, almost every day for about half of his life. Yet he struggles to pass the ball. You can pick the most professional and dedicated player you want. Are you saying that Lionel Messi is technically miles better than James Milner because James Milner is too lazy to work at being as good as Messi?
I know. It was a joke.
 
He's turning 22 in 5 months if you're talking about James. I find it odd that posters generally reduce player's ages when being positive about them and add to their ages when being dismissive
I knew he was 21 and was merely rounding it up.
Also a poster mentioned we already have kids his ilk. I agree in part, but how many of them have the experience of playing regularly and the confidence to run with the ball in a physical division?
I don't know part of me says go for it, and another part says "please, dont give me that hope"..
Well over to you Ole.
 
I’m pretty sure I read on here that technique can’t be improved past age 16.

That's literally like saying you can't improve or learn anything new if you're 17 or older. Absolute nonsense.

Not always a lot of it is starting to learn what positions to get in. But, it does seem like it is the technical ability that a player is most likely to improve. But, you really do not see players improve their first touch, close control in a significant way during their professional careers.

Look at Thierry Henry, just as one example, in his career. Compare him from the age of 17 to his peak; it's night and day the improvements he made to his dribbling, his shooting technique, his passing, all of those are technical skills.

There's another one going on right now in Mbappe, his dribbling and skills have improved year after year since he came on the scene at 17 years old.

Then you have some who are born with a dribbling talent, and they stay with that and don't improve much on it, or anything else like a Ben Arfa.

Arsene Wenger says that technical ability needs to be developed by 12.

Hate to disagree with the man, but he's dead wrong on this. Now, it may be a personal preference of his in the youth players he wants to bring in to his team for development, but it's, again, nonsense. You can improve any technical aspect at any age if you focus on it. Football is not some mystical journey, it's a sport like any other and your body can learn to improve in touch, dribbling, shooting, passing, and all other technical aspects you can think of; but you need the mind to go along with it, especially when it comes to the creativity in how to use these technical skills.
 
I knew he was 21 and was merely rounding it up.
Also a poster mentioned we already have kids his ilk. I agree in part, but how many of them have the experience of playing regularly and the confidence to run with the ball in a physical division?
I don't know part of me says go for it, and another part says "please, dont give me that hope"..
Well over to you Ole.

Rounding down you mean? :lol:. It still applies all the same, its amusing. Lets hope Ole can turn this championship kick and run player into a player that can contribute on the big stage. If he ends up just being a decent squad player his signing will be a success in my eyes
 
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