Daniel James | Officially Signs

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Not nessicarily, Greenwood should have had a chance weeks ago given how shite Rashford, Martial and Lukaku have been, but he's not been given a sniff, it took until last week for Chong to get a chance to play instead of the aforementioned 3, and I can't recall the last time Gomes got on the pitch for us. I see no point in stacking up more unproven kids when we have 3 there waiting.
Well, there's the question. Are they good enough right now? Chong was fine against Huddersfield but not great. He didn't really do anything. Greenwood has been injured on and off and Gomes, while I think he's very good, is absolutely tiny and would get bullied in the league at his age. They may be great prospects but that doesn't make them better than our first team players.
 
Fully expect 20+ pages of posters saying we didn't want him anyway because he's crap when he signs for Liverpool for £10m + add-ons
And the flip side the fans saying he's not good enough will the be moaning at how shit our recruitment is and we let another young talent join a rival.
 
Sign a young promising player - oh no it will stop out young uns.
Other club signs him - why weren't we in for him.
 
People who say that he would be better for a lower level team who play on the counter. How many times have we seen our players take the ball from our half, run as fast as they can and then eventually the opposition catches up to them. Our players don't play properly on counter, the only speed merchant in our team is Rashford and even he doesn't use his pace properly.
It's good if this lad is a pace merchant, at least we would have a better chance on the counter.
 
You think ?
We have been signing players other clubs have been scouting for months- City with Fred, Leeds with James.

Here’s what our scouts do - they call up the Leeds scouts - hey Harry, how’s it going? What’s happening at Leeds? I hear you guys are scouting this kid Daniel James, so what do you guys think of him? Pretty good eh, great, good enough for me..oh and hey, you don’t have to scout him anymore, you don’t have to go to the matches to watch the lad play because we are signing him. Thanks Harry, cheers.

Calls Woody - hey Mr Woodward, Chief Scout here, yeah we extensively scouted that boy you wanted us to look at, he’s pretty good, sign him up

Is Harry still at Leeds?
 
Dunno. I thought everyone appreciate honest hard work. If 'lazy' pogba was available they would be all over him

Ps I am not an EPL professional. However if I committed such mistakes with my company I'd risk the sack rather then get awarded

De Gea made mistakes and still won the award time after time. Its not an award for "perfect player". Its an award for best player. The players and the fans both agreed, something that doesnt always happen.

Pogba is fine if he's the only one who is a bit of a luxury. That requires all the other talented players to be working hard. I dont think that comes close to being true of United.

I'd say only Ander, Rashford and Shaw could claim that they worked really hard. Smalling was better last season, Martial and Lukaku are 2 more players who have a questionable workrate. Lingard goes invisible but has done better tracking back this season and Mata is mostly average.
 
Not nessicarily, Greenwood should have had a chance weeks ago given how shite Rashford, Martial and Lukaku have been, but he's not been given a sniff, it took until last week for Chong to get a chance to play instead of the aforementioned 3, and I can't recall the last time Gomes got on the pitch for us. I see no point in stacking up more unproven kids when we have 3 there waiting.



That's pretty irrelevant if those feet are attached to a run of the mill kick and rush winger, I'd rather have a technically superb skillful winger who had a predominant foot.

Like Mata?
 
Not nessicarily, Greenwood should have had a chance weeks ago given how shite Rashford, Martial and Lukaku have been, but he's not been given a sniff, it took until last week for Chong to get a chance to play instead of the aforementioned 3, and I can't recall the last time Gomes got on the pitch for us. I see no point in stacking up more unproven kids when we have 3 there waiting.

Not that it'll matter to you but Greenwood has had constant knocks and illness and hence not even on the bench.
 
I'm excited about this one. Even though the only time i've seen him play was in the Wales-Slowakia game. He was very good there and their most dangerous player.

We all dont know if it will be a succesfull singing, but it would be a indication that we're heading into the right direction. Enough of the overpaid, unmotivated superstars and divas. We need young, talented and hungry players! James would be a good start.
 
Not a proven player, but isn't it the United way? Young lads who have everything to prove and more experienced players around them. United biggest succeses were achieved that way.
 
You think if we signed lower end PL players those same crazies would be in any way placated? Who are all these bargain youngsters playing in the PL we should sign?
Oh I’m not defending the crazies. Look at the abuse the last up and coming PL player we signed gets (Smalling). But other clubs do seem better at it than us.
 
Neves and Jota were a typical big fish small pond scenario. Buffon and Del Piero played in the Serie B. No one say he was Serie B material.

I've yet to understand the hype behind Brooks. He scored 7 goals this season, 6 of which against small clubs. Some speak about him as if he's Messi.

PS we're talking about the same league in which Sessegnon looked like a world beater in it.
Statistics are overrated. Remember what you USED to say about Fernando Torres' La liga goal scoring record at Atletico? Remember what happened at Liverpool?
 
Signing James for 15 mil Id say brilliant, it's archetypical fergie signing, a good player with lots of potential who'll likely feature in first team straight away and will likely only get better. Some posters moan regardless of who you sign, caf needs to get a grip.
 
Sign a young promising player - oh no it will stop out young uns.
Other club signs him - why weren't we in for him.

Too true.

People who say that he would be better for a lower level team who play on the counter. How many times have we seen our players take the ball from our half, run as fast as they can and then eventually the opposition catches up to them. Our players don't play properly on counter, the only speed merchant in our team is Rashford and even he doesn't use his pace properly.
It's good if this lad is a pace merchant, at least we would have a better chance on the counter.

I agree. If you have doubts about him making it you're in good company, everyone should have doubts about any young player, let alone one moving up a division to a big club (we're still a big club, right?:nervous:). However I prefer to focus on the positives of us doing a deal for a promising young player, one of which as you say is his speed that could improve our ability on the counter.
 
that was my point and why I criticised that post. Thanks for agreeing with me.

I can't care less if we keep Martial or not. Honestly, I would let him go at this point as laziness can't be tolerated at this level. However we shouldn't replace him with James. That would be silly from our part and unfair on the player. If we bring in James then we should see him as a squad player (and we should let squad players go to make him some space). That's his level, at least for the time being.

I know it was your point and I never disagreed with that, I just didn't agree with how you were trying to get that point across. Agree with this post too. I don't think he'd be brought in as a starter. That's not to say he couldn't become one if he takes his chances.
 
De Gea made mistakes and still won the award time after time. Its not an award for "perfect player". Its an award for best player. The players and the fans both agreed, something that doesnt always happen.

Pogba is fine if he's the only one who is a bit of a luxury. That requires all the other talented players to be working hard. I dont think that comes close to being true of United.

I'd say only Ander, Rashford and Shaw could claim that they worked really hard. Smalling was better last season, Martial and Lukaku are 2 more players who have a questionable workrate. Lingard goes invisible but has done better tracking back this season and Mata is mostly average.



Well according to distance covered Lingard is our most hardworking player although that doesn't say much as workrate need to be backed by talent. DDG has been by far our best player (apart from this year of course), Id give Pogba another year IF he wants to stay, if not he can feck off. Martial is lazy and we should get rid. Regarding Shaw, I struggle to name more then 7-8 good games from him in all his Man united career with us


I have to agree with Gaz. I don't like this squad very much. Its a frigging race to the bottom.
 
I’m very excited about this. We really need to try something fresh and new with our signing policy, and for once this would be an ”early” signing that has a low risk and potentially high reward.
 
Produced is a bit of stretch, they have been produced in the portuguese league and both played Champions league football.
Now I have no issue with James since I know nothing about him.
You misunderstand my statement. My point is the championship produces loads of good players. Even those who like Maguire, Robertson, Brooks and Jota were 'nothing special' statistically at that level. Yet took the the EPL like ducks to water.
 
I highly doubt this kid is being bought as an undisputed first team player. Him plus another established winger is good business though

I would take that AS LONG as we get rid of squad players in that position.
 
In terms of front 6 options, we are probably looking at getting rid of (or expecting them to leave) Sanchez, Lukaku and Mata.
Leaves our attacking options as Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Greenwood, Chong/Gomes (probably only loans for those 2). Who knows if James will be good enough to start, but if he provides good competition for places then it still helps since we also need depth.
 
I dont understand why fans are in uproar about this? Surely it is better to sign a young talent who will want to prove his worth than a £80m signing with all the pressure and fail. To name a few: Di Maria, Sanchez.
 
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Dont know about anyone else but its signings like these that get me feeling more positive for the upcoming season.
Hopefully Aaron Wan Bissaka is next on the list.:drool:
 
I'm not sure what is exciting about this kid, he's super fast but I don't see much else in the videos posted, and we are in desperate need of some proven quality, we start unproven players up top every week and they are a shit show, and if we want to use more unproven players we have 3 of them from the academy that are waiting in the wings every week to get a chance.




Yep I agree with that.
 
I hope it happens. Maddison and Brooks did really well in the PL after being signed from the Championship, might as well try and get talented young players from there as well. Even he flops, you can probably ship him to a midtable club for 20m in a couple of years.
 
Squad player most probably. Could be worth a punt but won't change anything really for us.
 
Some people talk about pace as though it's a bad thing. It's the best quality for an attacker, especially a winger, to have. The attribute that defenders constantly say is the hardest thing for them to deal with and the one that can propel otherwise not the most gifted footballers into superstars. Martial has pace and is the only winger we've had in recent years that's been any good, Sane and Sterling at City, Mane and Salah at Liverpool... pace rules.
 
For everyone says he's suited to counter attacking because of his pace but Swansea is playing possession-based with high pressing, Leed also plays that style under Bielsa, they desperately want Daniel James.

Daniel James is capable of playing in possession based and counter-attacking. I've seen many good chances created from Pogba were due to Rashford's movement but very few for Martial. That's why I think Daniel James will improve us on the left flank and working his ass off to press high and help Shaw, increasing Pogba's playmaker influence in the third final with James's movement.
 
Does he play right wing or left? last thing we need is to sign a player who is better on LW and cant play properly on RW
 
This just shows you the value in the current market.

Under Fergie we'd have pillaged Wolves, Everton and anyone else with players looking like they might break into the top 6 and couple play at a higher level. Now those players cost £50m - £70m so we're looking at the players THOSE teams would sign after we take their £70m rated players instead.

Not complaining but I think people should realise that signing's like this are a few seasons and lots of development away from being ready for top tier.
 
Anyone see Ole quotes. I can't post as newbie but on sky sports app, he said he wants to follow Rooney and Ronaldo transfer model, young exciting players that will be at Utd for long time and players who will excite fans.

Yeah they’d cost world record fees these days. It’s going to be hard following that.
 
Reminds me of the Nick Powell signing. I hope I’m proven wrong. But, from Sancho to James is a tad worrying.
 
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