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Would be an excellent move. Risky but well worth it.

He was farsically bad at the start of the season but recovered with time and has looked very good as barca themselves have gotten stronger.There would be a risk of him playing like did at the start and not being as interested given the drop from barca to united right now but if it works well have the league's best attacking fullback.
 
Whoever plays right wing could benefit hugely from playing with him.
 
The last few times I've seen him he looks a pale imitation of the player he was, particularly physically. I could see him finding the style of play in the PL tough.
 
Brophs said:
The last few times I've seen him he looks a pale imitation of the player he was, particularly physically. I could see him finding the style of play in the PL tough.
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He shouldn't have any issues physically. He's handled ronaldo loads of times excellently in the past. The issue he's faced in recent times is generally sloppiness. Bad decision making, trying too much, unecunesseary touches, blasted crosses etc. But I do think he's performed well over the last few months, the mmalaga mistake aside
 
Im not sure a defender who cannot defend is LVG's cup of tea??, no matter how good he is on the ball or going forward. Although, I guess he and LVG do share a love of the philosophy that if you have the ball the opponent cannot hurt you. Would probably be worth a shot on a free.
 
He wouldn't really add much more than Valencia does now. A bit like when City signed Maicon a few years back.
 
At his best he was one of the best footballers in the world, not to mention by a distance the best right back around. He's 31 now and doesn't have much left, then again Cafu was still one of the best full backs in the world at 36 and managed to adapt his game so maybe the same will happen with Alves.

Barcelona will try to extend his deal I imagine as they don't have a replacement and with a transfer ban they won't want to risk starting with inexperienced full back.
 
11101 said:
Im not sure a defender who cannot defend is LVG's cup of tea??, no matter how good he is on the ball or going forward. Although, I guess he and LVG do share a love of the philosophy that if you have the ball the opponent cannot hurt you. Would probably be worth a shot on a free.
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The myth about him being unable to defend comes strictly from the fact that he is amazing offensively.
 
He brings bags and bags of title winning experience, he knows what it takes to win the biggest prizes and I can see him being useful not only on the pitch but in the dressing room as well, on a free? No brainer for me.
 
Man-United said:
I rather we sign younger players with a big future here instead.
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Pretty much this. We should be looking at younger options, players in their early to mid twneties who will develop into Alves of 7 years ago type players in a year or two.
 
He said that he has no pre agreement with any team. He'll mostly wait till the end of the season to see where the team is going and then decide.
With our ban, we don't have any better options than renewing his contract. Plus his performance have been rising the past 3 months, another 2 years
are not that bad.

Playing with Messi on the right flank is a big part of his offensive game with us, if he does move to the PL it won't be the same. A bit more reserved.
 
We could sign Clyne then, i see no difference money wise. At least he got his best years in front of him. Alves is ok, cant get excited, would surprise me if van Gaal woul buy a brazilan RB.
 
11101 said:
Im not sure a defender who cannot defend is LVG's cup of tea??, no matter how good he is on the ball or going forward. Although, I guess he and LVG do share a love of the philosophy that if you have the ball the opponent cannot hurt you. Would probably be worth a shot on a free.
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He's kept ronaldo is his pocket a fair few times. It's just that hes been so brilliant going forward that people underrate his defensive abilities.
 
Raoul said:
He wouldn't really add much more than Valencia does now. A bit like when City signed Maicon a few years back.
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Disagree. He'll be far better than valencia in any case. If he plays the way he can and has of late he'll be miles better.
 
Him, Valdes...

We've just looked at Barca's 09 side and gone "ehh, if you can't beat 'em..."
 
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Disagree. He'll be far better than valencia in any case. If he plays the way he can and has of late he'll be miles better.
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Doubt that at all, especially as he's now in his 30s and on the decline. It would be a decent transfer on a free but a poor one in terms of long term needs.
 
Got to be around 31 now and we moan about pace, which will only last a few years tops with him, so it depends if we have someone young who could take over in that time in mind or not for me. I'd personally not go for him, put faith in Rafael and get Clyne to challenge for a starting role, he just rejected a new contract and the press are speculating VG is interested
 
Id rather him then Southampton bumming us for Clyne, very good experiance in what already is an inexperianced back line
 
He's 31 and would be perfect for 3 years. He hasn't gone slower and is still a very good defender. He would be key in a young defense that hopefully will have champions league football again.
 
Mainoldo said:
He's 31 and would be perfect for 3 years. He hasn't gone slower and is still a very good defender. He would be key in a young defense that hopefully will have champions league football again.
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His physical abilities have been in decline for the past 2 seasons now, he can't contribute going forward the way he did and struggles to get back when he takes positions higher up the pitch. He's never been a well organised defender and is exactly what we don't need.
 
goin4glory said:
His physical abilities have been in decline for the past 2 seasons now, he can't contribute going forward the way he did and struggles to get back when he takes positions higher up the pitch. He's never been a well organised defender and is exactly what we don't need.
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Who would you rather have? He is still better than danielo and Clyne.
 
wdf are we doing? I remember when AC Milan started signing all these players on high wages who were past their best and look how fecked up they are now (obviously other factors too).

We need to sign a RB who is about to enter or in his prime, if we want to be the best again we can't be making transfers like this unless we already have a world class team and only need a few gaps to fix.
 
Its the usual feel good stuff about signing known players. "I can't think of any good younger/emerging RBs so lets sign Dani Alves"
 
I'd rather have Clyne (only going to get better/homegrown/cheap) but I wouldn't say no to either.
 
As a short term deal it would be fine. He might be aging but he's still good enough right now, he has bags of experience winning trophies, he'd probably have a head start fitting into LVG's philosophy given his Barca background and he seems like the sort of competitive personality that would enjoy the challenge of moving to a new club.

There is certainly an argument for investing in younger, long term players but only if those players are actually good enough. If we're not convinced by our younger targets then why not go for a short term fix for now?
 
If we're signing Clyne as well, i can't think of anyone better to learn from. But if he's the answer to our Valencia crisis on his own then i'm less sure. Gotta admit the idea sounds cool on paper, but i haven't seen him play for ages, bar the odd isolated game.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
wdf are we doing? I remember when AC Milan started signing all these players on high wages who were past their best and look how fecked up they are now (obviously other factors too).

We need to sign a RB who is about to enter or in his prime, if we want to be the best again we can't be making transfers like this unless we already have a world class team and only need a few gaps to fix.
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I'm not sure our team is all that old, is it? Especially in defence. De Gea, Jones and Shaw are still a long way from their prime and Rojo/Smalling should only be beginning to enter their best years. If anything a bit more experience in defence might not hurt, especially if we're going to be signing younger players in other positions.
 
Seems strange to claim that Alves is better than Danilo. I haven't seen much of Danilo myself but everyone raves about him and he's already taken over as Brazil's first choice right back. Alves I see fairly regularly and he's not the player he was. He's leaving Barcelona because they haven't offered him a new contract and he didn't make the recent Brazil squads.

I know which one I'd rather see United sign.
 
Mainoldo said:
Who would you rather have? He is still better than danielo and Clyne.
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Alves has along with Lahm been the best RB in Europe for the past 6 years but his best years are certainly behind him and in the EPL Alves wouldn't have the same type of protection he get's at Barca from physical teams. You can't bring in a 31 year old whose noticeably in physical decline into a much more physically demanding league with a new team/language barrier and expect him to perform at his previous level, it's a recipe for disaster.

I assume your post means Danillo from Porto, from all the reports I've read he's already signed a deal with Real Madrid. Clyne would be a fine choice but I like Valencia a lot at RB.

You need to ask yourself why are Barca letting Alves go if he has 3 more years of top class football left in him especially when they have a transfer embargo.
 
Raoul said:
Doubt that at all, especially as he's now in his 30s and on the decline. It would be a decent transfer on a free but a poor one in terms of long term needs.
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have you even watched him of late? He's doing well. Besides dani alves on decline is still streets ahead of valencia.
 
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