Yep, Clichy is a starter as well and so is Demichelis.
Daley Blind - Deal Confirmed
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Yep, Clichy is a starter as well and so is Demichelis.
Rekt.
Basically some people on here just want us to become Real Madrid. But the fact that they have an endless pot of money meaning they can load their team with whoever like is why so many people dislike them so much. Ronaldo wasn't a name before he came here. Now look at him. I'm not saying Blind's ever going to be world class. But not being world class doesn't mean that you can't be a great player or be an integral part of or be hugely successful at a club.
Just of out curiosity, who would you sign ideally? Then, if you think about the factor that we have no CL to offer, just money, our name, fans, history, etc., who would it be realistically?
Was Braafheid player of the year in the Eredivisie? Was he as important as Blind was last year to his old team before he joined Bayern? I don't think they are comparable. Blind is a similar player to Carrick, with Carrick being someone who was often enough scapegoat for some United supporters, while carrying the United midfield for several years on his own. Or at least he was the only reliable midfielder we had. Oh and Carrick is also not rated by Hodgson, so not being rated by some people means feck all.
Nowhere near as good as any of the players mentioned. Out of all the clubs we are competing with for CL places Liverpool are the only club Blind would get any playing time with in midfield(and Tottenham if you consider them a contender for CL places). And even at those clubs he would not consistently get starts.
Good chatting with ya.Patience young padawan. Going by Van Gaal's comments of 'comings and goings' Blind won't be our last signing in midfield or defense (or atleast I hope so).
What we must understand is that ideally the club and the manager do realize Blind isn't the final solution. It's better to bring in a good (albeit not world-class or potentially world-class) player if all the other avenues of procuring top notch ones are based on varying percentages/ haven't come to fruition (yet). Better use a first aid kit for the time being than wait for full-on surgery while you bleed to death.
Blind is just one piece in the jigsaw. There will be more to come. If not in this window then in the next or in the summer beyond that. Van Gaal has a blueprint in place, he is a philosophy manager that will piece it all together but we need to grant him time even if it's seemingly utter poo in the beginning (just ask Caf's resident Bayern fans). So let's keep calm and trust in Van Gaal is all I can say. If he trusts Blind then we should have no cause to question the decision.
On what basis does one make that argument ?
Good chatting with ya.
Likewise.
Blind would be a great signing.
No, he wouldn't be a transformational signing like Keane, Cantona or Ronaldo, but we really need a player like him who has good ability, good awareness and solid character. What I mean by "character" isn't that he's a good guy, but that he knows what it takes to win. We're a bit short on character on this squad right now.
No, he wouldn't be a transformational signing like Keane, Cantona or Ronaldo, but we really need a player like him who has good ability, good awareness and solid character. What I mean by "character" isn't that he's a good guy, but that he knows what it takes to win. We're a bit short on character on this squad right now.
Indeed.
Deadline madness officially started. 
Caftards already losing their shit like they're completely unaware of poor Blind junior being just one in the group of new players coming here.
You just can't make this up. When you actually see a movement on a transfer front you can still feel the rage from so many discontent goofballs... and even after club finally getting rid of the weakest links. C'mon now. It's just a start of a long weekend ride plus Monday after that. Save your energies on other additions you'll inevitably underrate.
Enjoy it or keep raging.
Caftards already losing their shit like they're completely unaware of poor Blind junior being just one in the group of new players coming here.You just can't make this up. When you actually see a movement on a transfer front you can still feel the rage from so many discontent goofballs... and even after club finally getting rid of the weakest links. C'mon now. It's just a start of a long weekend ride plus Monday after that. Save your energies on other additions you'll inevitably underrate.
Enjoy it or keep raging.
Liverpool start Joe Allen in midfield and Henderson.
They both look good because Rodgers has a system, which gets the best out of them. Sometimes it's not about big names you know.
Well, it depends on the system. Maybe van Gaal has a specific job for him in a system, which makes full use of Blind's qualities and makes him perform at a higher level. A player moving clubs can perform very differently depending on the system. Kagawa is one case here which hasn't worked out.
You don't need 11 world class players. Atletico had the best defensive unit in the world last year, and I doubt many were calling their defence world class before the title winning season.
What if the system was perfect for a Herrera and Blind midfield two? They both excel and are comfortable? We have to give Blind a chance.
This.
Besides Koke, I don't even think they have any world class midfielders too.
I don't know enough about him to pass judgement, but it looks a good signing. He knows the system and LvG knows enough about him to go after him, so that's a positive.
Does feel underwhelming though. Getting excited over Vidal and ending up with Blind. I also have a feeling he is our midfield signing until we go for Strootman in the future.
Does feel underwhelming though. Getting excited over Vidal and ending up with Blind. I also have a feeling he is our midfield signing until we go for Strootman in the future.
You're probably right. Players like Gabi though were very effective.
Gabi currently is, I'd say. But that's a very good point. Atletico work great as a unit and don't have that stand out player, let alone more than one.
I'd be happy with signing Blind. Versatile and, a huge matter, is already used to Van Gaal's system and methods. Would probably be a calming influence to the team somewhat.
Still think we'd need another defender/midfielder though. And maybe a top midfielder in January depending on our form and injuries.
Still think we'd need another defender/midfielder though. And maybe a top midfielder in January depending on our form and injuries.
Braafheid never won it but Johnny Heitinga, Mounir El Hamdaoui, Theo Janssen have.
I was just sharing the views of a few Ajax fans hence me bringing Edson Braafheid into the argument. I hope Blind does well for us.
will be a very good signing for us.
now get Vidal and we will be set.
now get Vidal and we will be set.
My point was that hindsight is a wonderful thing and we don't know yet, if he will be good enough. Blind is also a player just like Carrick, who never will be appreciated as others just because for the type of players they are.
Inevitable panic buy .
.@Herman Van Rompuy
I'd like to hear your views on how you think Blind would be best utilized because I remember you wanting Blind at Utd since May.
I'd like to hear your views on how you think Blind would be best utilized because I remember you wanting Blind at Utd since May.
Average player, but I'd rather see him play than Young or Valencia.
I'd rather see you play than Young or Valencia.
The more I read about this the more happy I am with this signing. If we sign one more CM before the window closes I'll be delighted.
We've done superbly well in this window IMO. Herrera-Blind-Carrick is still a big improvement over Carrick-Clev-Fletcher. Now if we get Mata, Januzaj, Di Maria and our strikers ticking around them
We've done superbly well in this window IMO. Herrera-Blind-Carrick is still a big improvement over Carrick-Clev-Fletcher. Now if we get Mata, Januzaj, Di Maria and our strikers ticking around them
I don't want to get into whether it was a panic buy or not, but it certainly was not a bad one. Not even close to Fellaini signing. I for one think this is a really good signing.Inevitable panic buy
Excuse the music, more of a highlights one, a welcome to Utd vid posted over 2 weeks ago
like that challenge on 1:04
Inevitable panic buy
Seriously, after witnessing Tuesday night and the games before, can you really be sad about that sort of purchase, even if it is a panic buy? Or would you rather go back to last summer, just make one panic buy, nothing else and start the season?
I can answer as well, I presume?
I wanted him to sign for us, since I knew Evra would leave us. Mostly because I think he's a useful player and actually good enough to improve us. Since we've signed Rojo, I was less keen, since Rojo can cover left-back as well and it was apparent that players like Schneiderlin are available. His best position in my eyes is definitely the holding role in Ajax' 4-3-3. So if we were to switch to said formation, we could be lining up quite a competitive team.De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Di Maria - A. Herrera
Januzaj - Rooney - Welbeck
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Di Maria - A. Herrera
Januzaj - Rooney - Welbeck
Inevitable panic buy
IMO he would be a solid signing for us, he can play the CDM/CM role intelligently and he is very versatile as well.
He has attributes that will compliment Herrera.
One midfielder away from fixed.
Thanks for the feedback mate.Seriously, after witnessing Tuesday night and the games before, can you really be sad about that sort of purchase, even if it is a panic buy? Or would you rather go back to last summer, just make one panic buy, nothing else and start the season?
I can answer as well, I presume?
De Gea
Rafael - Jones - Rojo - Shaw
Blind
Di Maria - A. Herrera
Januzaj - Rooney - Welbeck
I really hope we do go 4-3-3
The only apprehension I have about this signing is it might prolong our 3-5-2 experiment.
Another midfielder being signed though would probably kill it off.
Another midfielder being signed though would probably kill it off.
And how exactly do you know that? None of us knew that LVG had been seriously interested in Rojo until he mentioned it after we signed him. Things could be the same here. No one on here has any idea about what goes on behind the scenes at the club. Reasons why some deals take longer others etc. And you'll see. By the end of this season most of these haters will be saying they always rated and him and always knew he'd do well etc etc etc.Inevitable panic buy
No, I'm sad because it's inevitable, nothing against the player. Still, I was hoping Ed could done better than this obvious singing, it brings back Fellaini memory. You know, everyone said he was a good buy, excellent player, finally signed a midfielder and stuff....well, at least we ain't gonna overpay for him, 14m is a good deal indeed.
With him being a proper defensive mid, it might end the 3-5-2 soon, with Herrera and Di Maria being used as centre mids who'll do the defensive and attacking side of the game.
Not sure Fellani and Blind (if true) are comparable situations. United have already brought in Herrara and Di Maria to play MF. So-I don't think Blind is being signed as a panic move. Maybe he wasn't the first choice CDM on the list-but he'll be serviceable in that role.
In contrast, Fellani was signed after nobody was signed because of chasing targets that didn't come through-for an amount above the release clause would have cost if United bought him earlier in the window.
As you say, at least there's no evidence United are paying more for Blind now than if they bought him in July. And, many people were not thrilled about Fellani coming in because (i) he was considered an Everton-level player and (ii) the uncertainty as to his position-would he play at 10; 8 or 6? Blind seems like he'll be slotted in as a 6, helping the back line and playing behind Herrara and Di Maria (if he plays MF).
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From what I read about him he doesn't strike me as a typical defensive mid ala the Carvalho or De Jong mould. Seems like versatile squad player who would prefer playing in midfield at best, though still a huge upgrade over our current crop.
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