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39
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19
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1
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2
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I think his defending on that first goal was a bit "midfieldy", when you know you can let your opponent ghost because on the turn you have a team-mate behind you that you can close space on as he pushes up. He's definitely been worth his salt for defendings sake this season. But I am not sure about the long-term aspect of him playing in the center of defense if he is going to make a key mistake like this first goal. Smalling waiting in the wings is definitely a good scenario for us to have, not sure if this is the right time to hook Daley I think he still has some credit in the bank but I wasn't really impressed with his defending today.
 


I used this video and watched it frame by frame.

When the ball is delivered, Bailly and Blind are inline. Bailly's man goes forward to meet the ball and Bailly goes forward to make the challange. Basic defending. At this point KDB is Pogba's man.

Blind holds his position and turns his body to run into the space behind Bailly anticpating either Bailly to win the header or to dummy it and allow the bounce on to Blind. Every person who has been coached at any level knows that in this instance Blinds job is to cover Bailly's back incase the ball continues. At this point, KDB has gone roughly 4 yards past a ball watching and flat footed Pogba, but is still a good 6 yards away from Blind. He's still Pogba's man, he should be tracked the runner from midfield. If Blind steps up 6 yards to meet KDB and the ball's flight continues (like a defender is told to anticipate) he is running the wrong direction against a player who is obviously faster and already has the run on him.

Next frame. Bailly stops. God knows why. Blind is not god and is unable to anticipate that his combative defensive partner would allow Iheanacho a free header, which is flicked onto KDB's run. At this point KDB and Blind are roughly 3 or 4 yards apart. Watch how Blind is running back towards his goal, he adjusts his footing to make the interception with his left foot, which if anything is his mistake. It's possible that he could have back tracked further but KDB is still just as likley to score by having a free run at a back tracking Blind.

Regardless, KDB wins the ball first and Blind has no choice but to stay still. He makes a challange and he's sent off. We all know Blind can't make that distance back, so i'm sure Blind knows it himself. The only option is it hope De Gea is quick off the line and Shaw is able to get beyond the keeper.

Give Iheanacho credit for meeting the long ball and making a killer flick on. Bailly deserves critism for backing out of the challenge. Pogba makes no effort to track KDB. All these factors leave Blind in no mans land.

His positioning was fine. Maybe it's an instance where his lack of pace was abused by KDB but I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to think any defender would match KDB for pace in that situaiton.

I'm sorry but that goal can't be pinned on Blind. The second goal was all Blind yes.


Pretty much as I saw it. Looks like it's totally on Blind in real time but from the first replay it was clear what had happened.
 
Nope I didn't say he was often out of position. I'm saying people have this impression that he is this exceptionally positionally aware centre back who struggles with pace and on one-on-ones when it's often the other way round. His anticipation of what a player on the ball will do is excellent when he is one-on-one.

I expressly said he can be in position most of the time (because he is a professional footballer, and a defensive minded midfielder to be exact) but he is prone to being out of position at times, which has cost us plenty. That West Ham game was the reason we didn't qualify for the CL in the first place.
But if Blind doesn't have excellent positional sense then there would be a fair few more examples, especially from prem league football. It's like saying Ibra isn't a great finisher because he missed a couple of really good opportunities today, occasionally, these things happen.
 
Defense has to be no nonsense first in the toughest matches. Blind made an amazing pass to Rashford, but that pass is not worth the defensive liability he brings against the top attacking teams. It's about balance. There are games where Blind should start and others where Smalling/Jones would provide a more solid defense with Bailly.
 
Defense has to be no nonsense first in the toughest matches. Blind made an amazing pass to Rashford, but that pass is not worth the defensive liability he brings against the top attacking teams. It's about balance. There are games where Blind should start and others where Smalling/Jones would provide a more solid defense with Bailly.
Even though bailly did the first mistake for the first goal? ok. If we are going tho hook CBs for their mistake, should do with every CB who makes any mistake no?
 
Why did Blind just stand there hands out wide, should have went for the ball and took out everything
 
The ball to release Rashford was phenomenal. His best moment in an awful performance but the whole team looked better once Herrera came on to add numbers in midfield.
 
Had an off day but it didn't help that City sliced through our midfield like a knife through butter leaving our defence exposed time and time again. When we reverted to an actual sensible formation everyone looked a lot more solid including Blind.
 
Even though bailly did the first mistake for the first goal? ok. If we are going tho hook CBs for their mistake, should do with every CB who makes any mistake no?
Just ignore him, I boxed him into a corner last week where he just refused to respond, he's adamant Blind is the equivalent of playing Bosnich there.
 
The ball to release Rashford was phenomenal. His best moment in an awful performance but the whole team looked better once Herrera came on to add numbers in midfield.
It is because we tried to attack and played some ball on the floor which some of our players are more than capable of doing it. Not all players are built for hoofing the ball for both attacking and defending.
 
Did better in the 2nd half. I'm hoping though Smalling and Bailly start together against Feyenoord. Maybe play Blind at left back to give Shaw a bit of a break if he can't play more than 1 game a week.
 
That was the only option. Go in, go hard and hope it's only a yellow card.
No chance he would get away with a yellow, that early on against a passing team like City would be suicide.
 
Why did Blind just stand there hands out wide, should have went for the ball and took out everything

Sadly it's still his achilles heel, he has such a midfield mindset and can't defend ugly even when desperately required. Going in hard there would have a yellow at worst due to how fast it happened.

Biggest difference between him & Mascherano.
 
Go caught flat-footed and slow to react for the first goal. It was entirely his fault.
 
No chance he would get away with a yellow, that early on against a passing team like City would be suicide.

Ye I know, but apparantly Clatterburg left his red card at home...Bravo!
 
Sadly it's still his achilles heel, he has such a midfield mindset and can't defend ugly even when desperately required. Going in hard there would have a yellow at worst due to how fast it happened.

Biggest difference between him & Mascherano.
That's a red all day long, it would be idiotic to go down to 10 men that early on against a team that keeps the ball so well.
 
But if Blind doesn't have excellent positional sense then there would be a fair few more examples, especially from prem league football. It's like saying Ibra isn't a great finisher because he missed a couple of really good opportunities today, occasionally, these things happen.



Third Newcastle goal. He wasn't at fault there but he moved into a position that would have played any Newcastle player who could have pounced on the rebound onside. Similar to what happened today.



Too far away from Smalling on that third Spurs goal, allowing Lamela into that central position to score.
 


Third Newcastle goal. He wasn't at fault there but he moved into a position that would have played any Newcastle player who could have pounced on the rebound onside. Similar to what happened today.



Too far away from Smalling on that third Spurs goal, allowing Lamela into that central position to score.

You can pull up lots of shit about any CBs atm like that.

If he is a shit defender and positioning is so bad, i wonder what LVG saw in him. And Jose.
 
These aren't example of poor positoning, you can over analysis any game to this measure and every defender in the world would be guilty of poor positoning 15 times a game. Pretty much every goal that's ever been scored you can say a defender could've been slightly better positioned.
 
Deer in headlights during the first half. Totally lost his head and ended up chasing shadows. Never seen his composure go to s-t like that before.
 
These aren't example of poor positoning, you can over analysis any game to this measure and every defender in the world would be guilty of poor positoning 15 times a game.

Yeah I can't remember who said (probably tons of people) but every goal is disappointing and every goal has someone to blame (to an extent).
 
He was shit in the first half I agree but wasn't in the second.

I was replying to the post where you told us Blind wasn't under pressure in the second half and that's why he looked alright, but you agree with me that it was end to end in the second half and both defenses were under pressure? Both can't be true.

He wasn't under pressure as consistently in the second half, and even then...he was just alright. He didn't do a lot that was particularly remarkable and it doesn't make up for the calamity of a first half performance.

So he had like 10 games last season costing us all the point since you said it was recurring theme last season?

If you are just talking about him having bad games, well that happened to every player including your probably fav smalling who even got screwed by no name players and sent off in FA cup final.

What? I like Smalling, but I've been critical of him at times like I have been of Blind. I can't be arsed with all the fanboying shite at all.
 
Had his good and bad moments. Frustrating that a mistake cost us a goal.
 
These aren't example of poor positoning, you can over analysis any game to this measure and every defender in the world would be guilty of poor positoning 15 times a game. Pretty much every goal that's ever been scored you can say a defender could've been slightly better positioned.

So he's given you examples of Blind's poor positioning, and now you've said it doesn't count...because every player is positioned poorly sometimes?:lol:

If that's the case then I assume we're not allowed to criticise anyone else for it? Why aren't Blind's fans able to admit when he's had a poor game? I like the player myself and I'm glad he's still featuring for us because I think he's a very good squad player, but he was shite today and the range of excuses and strawmen arguments that are getting posted to try and somehow excuse it are ridiculous.
 
He wasn't under pressure as consistently in the second half, and even then...he was just alright. He didn't do a lot that was particularly remarkable and it doesn't make up for the calamity of a first half performance.
You're not going to see last ditch tackles and overhead clearances because the other aspects of his game was on point.
 
These aren't example of poor positoning, you can over analysis any game to this measure and every defender in the world would be guilty of poor positoning 15 times a game. Pretty much every goal that's ever been scored you can say a defender could've been slightly better positioned.



Rondon (who has done nothing of note in the Prem) lost him easily for that goal. Positionally aware? Pfft.
 


I used this video and watched it frame by frame.

When the ball is delivered, Bailly and Blind are inline. Bailly's man goes forward to meet the ball and Bailly goes forward to make the challange. Basic defending. At this point KDB is Pogba's man.

Blind holds his position and turns his body to run into the space behind Bailly anticpating either Bailly to win the header or to dummy it and allow the bounce on to Blind. Every person who has been coached at any level knows that in this instance Blinds job is to cover Bailly's back incase the ball continues. At this point, KDB has gone roughly 4 yards past a ball watching and flat footed Pogba, but is still a good 6 yards away from Blind. He's still Pogba's man, he should be tracked the runner from midfield. If Blind steps up 6 yards to meet KDB and the ball's flight continues (like a defender is told to anticipate) he is running the wrong direction against a player who is obviously faster and already has the run on him.

Next frame. Bailly stops. God knows why. Blind is not god and is unable to anticipate that his combative defensive partner would allow Iheanacho a free header, which is flicked onto KDB's run. At this point KDB and Blind are roughly 3 or 4 yards apart. Watch how Blind is running back towards his goal, he adjusts his footing to make the interception with his left foot, which if anything is his mistake. It's possible that he could have back tracked further but KDB is still just as likley to score by having a free run at a back tracking Blind.

Regardless, KDB wins the ball first and Blind has no choice but to stay still. He makes a challange and he's sent off. We all know Blind can't make that distance back, so i'm sure Blind knows it himself. The only option is it hope De Gea is quick off the line and Shaw is able to get beyond the keeper.

Give Iheanacho credit for meeting the long ball and making a killer flick on. Bailly deserves critism for backing out of the challenge. Pogba makes no effort to track KDB. All these factors leave Blind in no mans land.

His positioning was fine. Maybe it's an instance where his lack of pace was abused by KDB but I think it would be a stretch of the imagination to think any defender would match KDB for pace in that situaiton.

I'm sorry but that goal can't be pinned on Blind. The second goal was all Blind yes.
So basically you are saying that Blind took every possible precaution for Bailly winning the ball. Yet Blind did not even bothered to take any sort precaution for Bailly losing this challenge and Iheanacho making this flick. That is why he is such a shit defender. A proper CB does not anticipate his partner to win all the challenges, he actually adjusts his positioning and play thinking that he could lose and you would need to cover.
In this exact situation Blind needed to be either much closer to Bailly, so that flick would fall to him, or to react much faster than he did. Instead he is stuck in no mans land, absolutely the same way he was stuck there for the second goal. Not only that he is to bothered to actually chase the guy.
 
Very poor today, wasn't as good on the ball too. Shouldn't play in games like this, IMO. Teams like Hull are perfect for him, it allows him to push up and control the backline. We should Smalling a go now.

Blind is a still good at back, but he's not suited to what we tried today
 
So he's given you examples of Blind's poor positioning, and now you've said it doesn't count...because every player is positioned poorly sometimes?:lol:

If that's the case then I assume we're not allowed to criticise anyone else for it? Why aren't Blind's fans able to admit when he's had a poor game? I like the player myself and I'm glad he's still featuring for us because I think he's a very good squad player, but he was shite today and the range of excuses and strawmen arguments that are getting posted to try and somehow excuse it are ridiculous.
Thing is though when people criticize him for a poor match, they brought all the shits and nonsense from games of the past. So it works both way?

Also we are fans of our players. Nothing wrong with it.
 
You're not going to see last ditch tackles and overhead clearances because the other aspects of his game was on point.

Well...again, that's the point. They weren't. I'd be fine with an unspectacular defender if he did his job well as a whole, but that wasn't the case today and the diversion to his second half performance is a nice excuse to try and forget his poor first half one.

It's nonsense because we all know that if Blind comes out with some fantastic crunching slide tackles next week his supporters will be praising him for that. Not that it'd be wrong to do so, of course...but simply saying the good aspects of his game weren't noticeable because he's not a traditional defender doesn't work when he cost us one goal due to dreadful positioning, and was completely switched off for another.
 
Not a good game from him. He has this weird characteristic of completely giving up as soon as the opposition is through on goal too. He just kind of jogs back with no urgency. Very strange. Anyway, I rate him as a decent defender but I think he's always going to have defensive errors in him when it comes to the better teams. His partner also made some big errors too. I think it is time Smalling replaced one of them.
 
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