Did we even play 'on the ball' route much this game?
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Shocking today but the first goal is in big part on Bailly as well.
No, he didn't give me examples of blinds poor positioning, that's my point, it's all there in my post, read it.So he's given you examples of Blind's poor positioning, and now you've said it doesn't count...because every player is positioned poorly sometimes?
If that's the case then I assume we're not allowed to criticise anyone else for it? Why aren't Blind's fans able to admit when he's had a poor game? I like the player myself and I'm glad he's still featuring for us because I think he's a very good squad player, but he was shite today and the range of excuses and strawmen arguments that are getting posted to try and somehow excuse it are ridiculous.
Have you not seen me repeatedly stating he was a poor in the first half? I'm just capable of understanding you don't have to go to the extreme on every single occasion. He was very good in the second half and shit in the second. How is that not balanced?
Infuriated me aimlessly whacking it anywhere today.
Stones is a far superior centre half than Blind ever will be.
Right, so you are not too bothered to answer to my comments, yet you are are way to busy to watch a replay of the goal. Sure, makes total sense!
Because one of his fans in this thread was quite literally asking for that evidence when someone pointed out his poor performances last season.
And there's nothing wrong with supporting a player...we should all do it, and I do like Blind, but your needless bringing up of Smalling to make it look like that's the reason I'm criticising Blind is silly because I don't have anything more against Blind than I do Smalling...it's just that Blind was a bit shit today.
At least Stones was at fault for one goal, not two.
Lacked that concentration in the first half like most in our team today.
Because he wasn't very good in the second. He was alright at best, and it doesn't excuse what was a poor performance overall. He wasn't dreadful, either (I gave him a 5 rating for the game), but this idea that he was somehow excellent in the second half is nonsense. He improved but didn't do much.
He's simply not a defender. We need to hit the market in January to get one cause this nonsense wont work, not on a consistent basis anyways.
Well people asking for smalling instead of blind like smalling has no faults.
It was the point.
Yeah he lost him there, so we've got two games. Lookin real convincing.
This is what people do with Valencia
Nah, that's why I said he's not suited to the game we tried to play. Jose got a lot wrong today
What did he do wrong in the second half?
I'm only doing what @ivaldo wanted me to do, which was to point out moments where Blind's lack of positional awareness (as a centre back, I must emphasize) shows.
Did you lose a bet and have to make outrageous comments as a result?
You can literally do it to any defender that's ever lived.
No they're not. They're asking for Smalling ahead of Blind because, on the whole, Smalling is a better defender.
Stones will turn out to be a top centre half, Blind won't.
And he's only pointing out 3 of the examples you gave were even decent examples of poor positoning. That's our point.
Nothing much...which is why I've said he was alright. He didn't do much that was particularly great or worth noting either, certainly not enough to excuse a poor performance.
Stones will be yet another overrated English player.
I give up. We'll just see if Jose will persist with having Blind as a centre back, a setup he inherited from possession crazed Van Gaal.
He's been immaculate for us, but I think we can allow him an off-game when so many of our other players didn't perform.
KDB was Pogba's man. I've explained why he can't step up. Bailly and Blind had a line, Bailly charges out to win the header and doesn't, so you wanted Blind to charge out with him, just so they are closer together. So what happens if nobody wins the header and the ball carry's on. KGB is still favourite to win the ball becasue Blind has strangley vacated his position.
Blinds job was to anticipate the ball continuing it's flight, hence we he was heading back towards goal. The only reason that the flick met KGB was becasue Iheanacho was allowed a free header in 2 yards of space to flick it exactly where he wanted to.
If Pogba and Bailly do thier job we have 3 scenarios:
1. Bailly wins the header.
2. Iheanacho wins the header but Pogba wins the flick on.
3. The ball is flicked or allowed to go over Bailly and blind collects the ball.
The bolded part of your post is just nonesense. Or do you know more about defending than LVG, Danny Blind and Jose?
He was excellent in the second half.
I thought Bailly was more at fault for not at least leaning his man for the first goal while the offside was poor positioning it happened at such a speed it's just one of those things, he was initially positioned quite well before De Bryune's quick turn back and shot made him look stupid.
I thought Bailly was more at fault for not at least leaning his man for the first goal while the offside was poor positioning it happened at such a speed it's just one of those things, he was initially positioned quite well before De Bryune's quick turn back and shot made him look stupid.
If we're going to divert to the managers opinion every time we're having a discussion then there's no point of the forum at all.
Again, this is the weird mental gymnastics of people defending Blind today, though. Earlier you were perfectly happy to excuse Blind on the basis of Jose's poor first half tactics. But now it suits you, you're using Jose as a way of defending Blind ahead of Smalling.
Smalling's a comfortably better centre-back than Blind despite his own faults and I think most would agree with that on the basis of watching both players playing at the back. Blind's done well this season so far and has thus kept his place in the team but no doubt things will change as the season goes on. Blind will potentially be used in a variety of positions, for example, because he's a versatile player and can fit more than one role.
Jose doesn't like changing his teams and Blind started the season very well. I think we will see a change soon
Nothing much, so he did something wrong otherwise your answer would've been 'nothing'. what exactly did he do wrong?
Don't mix things up.
You stated like it was a fact that smalling was a better defender so I bought up someone else's opinion, the manager's.
The tactic by him today had nothing to do with what if I think jose rated blind as a good defender.
Please do, it isn't going well for you.
I know, its not the right thing to do
Yeah he does not like changing. Like today.
Eh? Martial has been poor, was clear he was getting dropped and Micki was excellent last time he came on. How's that similar to dropping a CB who started the season well?
Sure, but it would not be a 1-on-1, at the very least it would be a hard chance from the edge of the box.
Nonsense, Blind's job was to anticipate that Bailly could lose a challenge and cut the gap, in any scenario his positioning when City forward was heading the ball was abysmal.
Nope, but i see United always conceding because of Blind. And what i am saying now and what i've said a lost of times before is that Bind is not a bad player, given his versatility he is actually great player to have in the squad, yet he is not a main CB. A makeshift, cover option? Sure, but he starts now because Smalling had a long summer, arrived late, does not really play well enough closer on the left and we have to credible alternative, since Rojo is way-way worse.
You are saying Mata didn't start the season well? And you think there will be a change just coz a CB made a mistake despite starting the season well?
Well, it would be a bit harsh and can't be good for dressing room no? Also, i doubt jose would keep playing a crap defender and a crap defender can't start a season well in CB postion.
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