Well if he played crap then people are going to come in here and say he played crap, just like when he plays well then people will praise him for playing well.
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- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 4
I love how people are suggesting this is some new phenomenon, many of us have been saying for ages that he's a good squad player to have but not Carrick's successor, today just highlighted the points many have made for some time now.
He'd have looked better if he had Jones or Rojo behind him. He cannot shepherd an out of his depth McNair in defense.
He's not good enough, sometimes its that simple. These long drawn out arguments sometimes aren't needed. The guy can't defend in midfield, he's weak and slow, has average reading of the game, is even worse positionally and his right foot is a standing leg. Carrick basically has him beat in every category and he's no sensation himself.
I wasn't criticising Blinds performances at left back. I actually think he and Shaw are pretty evenly matched in that position in terms of how good they are despite them being very different players. The point I was really trying to make was that I don't think he should be playing in midfield and he should be a squad player rather than first choice most of the time. He is a decent LB and he is a less than decent DM IMO.
Nonsensical post.
I would say harsh, don't think it was nonsensical. Blind is a good back-up player, but don't think he is a starter for a side aiming for top honors. He doesn't have any exceptional attributes, and is basically good to decent in everything he does.
There's simply no way he's "not good enough". He comfortably good enough. The likes of oshea did a great job for us for years. Blind is miles better than him. Heck, Valencia and Young have spent years at this club. Just goes to show how fickle people are when a month or so back he was being called one of our players of the season by many here.
As for the nothing exceptional part, I'm not sure how many players we have that are truly exceptional at one thing. Jones, for example, is hailed as some next great or something, but he has no single exceptional attribute right now other than I guess, bravery. He's good at defending and pretty good at other things. Fellaini has chest control but that's it. Valencia and Young are exceptional at nothing. Rojo hasn't shown what he's exceptional at.
Blind is a good footballer, that much is obvious. And those tend to be good enough, at least talent wise for most clubs. After its up to him to perform week in week out. He's got very good technique, he is intelligent and has a good pass on him. Needs to work on some areas to be the kind of starter everyone wants in our midfield. But saying he's simply not good enough is a bit rubbish really.
He is good enough for the squad I believe but not as a Carrick replacement at least not at the moment. He has a good passing range/accuracy, good tackling and not so good pace but I think he can vastly improve if he tweaks a couple of things. His passing is too conservative going forward needs to work on that as well as his positioning off the ball. I think he can tackle quite decently as is but again just needs to pick his moments more intelligently.
Fair enough. We signed him for some 12 million or so as a versatile player who can play a number of roles, each well. I don't disagree that he doesn't look like that top midfielder we all want running the show, but I don't think anyone even expected it? He was always someone who was brought it to bring versatility, a good all round game, and the ability to play different roles well. So far he's done just that. Whether he can reach another level and be that midfielder I mentioned above is doubtful but not an issue.
Totally agree with you on everything I wasnt expecting Blind to come in and be a maestro in midfield especially after seeing him at the world cup. I do think he can really step up though hes 25 with time to improve.
It showed that he's not the replacement for Carrick. Probably a better LB than midfielder
What are you on about? So we should blame Carrick for getting injured in a game that we were winning 4-1 and going off the pitch?!
He is blaming him because he thinks we wouldn't conceede if he stayed on. Great stuff.
Agree with that. Blind is yong and lernin and doing really well for his first season. But his defensive positioning and anticipation isn't a patch on Carrick's.
He chases the ball too much. Good for his defensive stats but ruins our shape and often leaves him stranded upfield. A problem that's compounded when he's partnered with a similarly over-eager player like Hererra. Against really crap opposition it can be overwhelming but any quality side will absorb the pressure and pick us off, as we've seen plenty of times this season. The wide open spaces in our midfield yesterday were shocking to see.
Seems a smart player, though, so I'm sure he'll get the hang of it eventually.
DM is a hard position to play, and chucking him in there when he's returning from injury, against what turned out to be quite a dynamic midfield (McCarthy and Barkley), was suicide in hindsight. Positionally he was really bad, but even on the ball he was very weak, he made very few incisive passes and didn't always make himself available to receive the ball when teammates had it (especially when coming out of defence, which Carrick always does). It was a very poor performance by him, but he can be much better in that position when he has a bit of continuity of games and has found his bearings. Still, even at his best not a patch on Carrick, the game yesterday once again reflecting how dependent we are on Carrick in midfield to get everything ticking.
I noticed this too, at first I thought it was possible due to Barkley man marking him, but then he never really had to move much to evade him and get some space, so not sure what it was. He certainly was looking for the ball a lot less than usual yesterday at any rate.
Yep there were a couple of instances where Barkley wasn't even sitting on him but just cutting off the supply line where Blind didn't make any effort to get himself into a receiving position. This wasn't the case in that run of games he played in the position a few months back, he seemed like he was shying away from the game or was just not fit to do those repeated efforts (cos that position requires huge stamina to always be moving).
And that's why as one of the 4 biggest clubs in world football, somehow we have spent a season without CL football. This whole settling for mediocrity needs to come to an end. You don't justify mediocrity by listing other mediocrity and then say see, he's not that bad, look at how they are/were.
I'd honestly prefer if we spent no money on squad players. Get them from the academy. Why sign blind when we have pearson coming through? Why keep him? He'll never be starter material.
Good technique and intelligence isn't enough for a united midfielder. That's why we ought not to have the likes of guthrie and vernon anita here, they also have good technique and intelligence. He has to be much much more or he's going to hurt the team.
On another note McCarthy I thought had another promising display. Reminds me so much of Fletcher.
What I'm saying is that you know how to judge a footballer and don't even know what mediocrity means.
You also seem to not understand how a squad works either.
Madrid have illaramendi and young Lucas silva among their central midfielders, Arbaloa as a fulback, and Hernandez who we didn't want among their strikers. Not to mention contrao as a fullback who is nothing great either.
Barcelona have Matheu in defence, pedro as a forward and many other players who aren't exceptional.
I'd like to know which team around has no players of Daley blinds ability.
Like wise tho they have 5-6 world class players starting everygame thats even with injuries. We have 5-6 squad players finding themselves in the starting 11 every week!
Yes, which means we have to add more top notch players and not get rid of the ones that can play an effective role in the future without being among the very best. We're very very light in midfield. We need to add a couple rather than replace players.
Best CM on the pitch, by a margin. No surprise that Everton's season has coincided with his return to match fitness. I would be very happy if he came to United.
Me to. He can play 6 or 8 I imagine as well? Thats the type of man who would benefit from afew years learning from Carrick the other side of the game. He would not come cheap but he has more energy in his game over Schneiderlin he's a real box to box man.
People saying he's not good enough for the squad are forgetting just how bad our midfield choices have been for a few seasons now. We've essentially replaced Cleverley and Fletcher (the post-illness one, he was excellent before) with Herrera and Blind, and our options are much better for it.
Yes, we're still light in both bodies and first choice quality in CM; we need a bona fide starter with some degree of physicality that can play #6 and #8. Once we get this player, our midfield options will look nicely balanced, especially if we can either bring through one of the youngsters or integrate Di Maria as an advanced CM.
As for Blind himself, my reaction in the matchday thread was that he lacks the physicality to play the DM role in these tough away matches, especially when we're playing an inexperienced CB and Valencia at RB. But he's more than good enough to play there in easier matches against less physical midfield opposition; he's also a very good option at LB and he has the ability to play as a more balanced CM too, in my opinion.
Yes, we're still light in both bodies and first choice quality in CM; we need a bona fide starter with some degree of physicality that can play #6 and #8. Once we get this player, our midfield options will look nicely balanced, especially if we can either bring through one of the youngsters or integrate Di Maria as an advanced CM.
As for Blind himself, my reaction in the matchday thread was that he lacks the physicality to play the DM role in these tough away matches, especially when we're playing an inexperienced CB and Valencia at RB. But he's more than good enough to play there in easier matches against less physical midfield opposition; he's also a very good option at LB and he has the ability to play as a more balanced CM too, in my opinion.
He'll go down as one of the best utility players we've ever bought its just a bad day at the office for the entire team and someone has to take the blame.
I thought he looked like a player who'd just come back from injury. That said, our key midfield pairing Blind/Herrera reminded me of how awkward they looked together earlier in the season and that bothers me, because I'm having a hard time remembering them playing the 6/8 roles well together.
Of course the missing element in all of this is that we don't know what happens away from the 90 minutes. What instructions does Blind get when he partners Herrera? If it's "play like Carrick" then he's no good at it, but maybe those aren't the LvG rules.
Also we've heard that LvG thought that the team were off, even during the warm-up. Again we don't know why. We jump to explanations about over-confidence, but for all we know it could have been anything from food poisoning to the team bus running over Valencia's dog. Anyway, Blind, not his best game yesterday, but that was true for the whole team.
Of course the missing element in all of this is that we don't know what happens away from the 90 minutes. What instructions does Blind get when he partners Herrera? If it's "play like Carrick" then he's no good at it, but maybe those aren't the LvG rules.
Also we've heard that LvG thought that the team were off, even during the warm-up. Again we don't know why. We jump to explanations about over-confidence, but for all we know it could have been anything from food poisoning to the team bus running over Valencia's dog. Anyway, Blind, not his best game yesterday, but that was true for the whole team.
Mediocre means average, please don't insult my english like that.
We don't have the luxury of having such players cause what we do have all round isn't all that great. Blind probably has more than quadruple the amounts of minutes than either of those madrid players listed. Matheu and Pedro are of a higher standard than Blind.
We, given the limited strength of our squad have no business investing money in the likes of blind. He's a midtable player.
Massive overreaction to a poor game. Carrick's had his share of nightmare games for us as well, most players have. Blind is a good player.
Hes been one of our better players this season, had a poor game but seems everyone has gone totally bonkers
Yes, I find that people are very bipolar regarding Blind here. Either they like him and defend him a lot or find him completely inadequate and slate him at every given opportunity because he cannot possibly be good enough for United because 1) he came from Eredivisie, 2) he's not PL proven, 3) he just can't. I'm probably in the former camp, I just like him a lot and think he's a good player on so many levels, not top class quality but easily good enough to be kept for a good amount of time and prove himself a useful member of the team.
Haven't been a fan all season so its incorrect to say its a massive overreaction to yesterdays game, just yesterday highlighted his deficiencies even more.
Even when he was consistently one of the best players on the pitch for us? He's really not done much wrong this season to be dismissed even as a squad player. I understand how people might not see a first team regular in him but to reject any possibility of him being a good squad player for us is ludicrous, he's been in top 3 performers for us in plenty games this season.
He was being raved about as one of our best signings of the season before Christmas, playing at the base of the diamond and playing well. Enormously positive response in the matchday thread when it was confirmed he was starting in midfield. One poor game, where just about everyone bar Smalling was pretty awful, and Blind's now shit and should never play in midfield.
Reputations are constantly on a knife's edge around here. Lets hope he doesn't have two poor games in a row, or he'll be getting bullets in the post.
Reputations are constantly on a knife's edge around here. Lets hope he doesn't have two poor games in a row, or he'll be getting bullets in the post.
One of our best performers this season (his first season in English football no less). Has a poor match on his return from injury and suddenly he's a midtable player. Unbelievable Jeff.
If he doesn't score against West Brom I hope he ends up in League One, the absolutely despiseful cnut of a footballer.
Some poster had an opinion of him when he came and wont change it, every time he has a bad game they think they're right.
He's a good player to have and to say - he's a midtable player- like it was said above is.. well overreaction as Sarni said, to say the least.
One poor game and all hell breaks loose - and we have posts like - he's not at a level United should aspire to and similar shit.
Exactly, it's often like that particularly with players who come from weak leagues. It's like they can never become any good. Hell, even if he had a shocker of a season I don't see how anyone could possibly write him off already, he's been here 8 months and was generally one of the best and most intelligent players in the league during his Ajax days which shows his potential. As things stand he's had a very good first season with a few bad performances, promise is certainly high.
Just realised I qouted you and wrote - as Sarni said.
It's better for the English to be bad than the opinion.
Completely off the mark with the bolted bit. We have to have such players so you might as well get used to it, whether it is blind or someone else. We've had them when we were winning trebles and we've had them during the droughts.