D. McDonnell - the Mirror: Jose will be sacked this weekend | BBC: Jose still has board backing

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For all the hate Mourinho gets, I think he did alright with us. He won two trophies, reached a final and let us to our best league campaign since Fergie.
He isn't the "special one" anymore, but people are stupid when they say that he is past it.

I don't get the board. They didn't back him. Why was he forced to stick with Martial, why didn't he get Perisic or an experienced center back. We would be better now for sure.

For what it's worth: I think it is the right decision to part ways, if he really lost the dressing room but his time with us shouldn't be seen as a failure.
 
Wah wah, disgraceful, my butt cheek. You guys can't have your cake and eat it too. Get him out ASAP while we still have time to salvage our season.
 
Frasbul said:
For all the hate Mourinho gets, I think he did alright with us. He won two trophies, reached a final and let us to our best league campaign since Fergie.
He isn't the "special one" anymore, but people are stupid when they say that he is past it.

I don't get the board. They didn't back him. Why was he forced to stick with Martial, why didn't he get Perisic or an experienced center back. We would be better now for sure.

For what it's worth: I think it is the right decision to part ways, if he really lost the dressing room but his time with us shouldn't be seen as a failure.
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Very strong arguments.
 
I have a feeling this might actually be true especially when taking into consideration the coverage it's receiving as well
 
Infra-red said:
Current bookies fav is still Zidane. 2nd fav is Brendan Rogers. Conte is 3rd.
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Proof that our board haven't settled on an a new appointment yet. We won't go with another ex Chelsea or ex Liverpool manager, thats 100%. There's clearly been no names mentioned except Zidane.
 
2cents said:
Seems like we’re firmly locked in the European managerial merry go round now, where it’ll be a series of flavor of the months in the hope that we stumble on to some genius.
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A merry go round without hiring any of the usual suspects. I’d take a steady hand like Ancelotti in a heart beat. Don’t think I can take another manager with massive question marks hanging over him and - make no mistake - that’s exactly the category that Zidane belongs to.
 
This is the sort of story guys that if true, you'd think all the major outlets and journos would be over it.

On a side note, is it just me or does G. Neville always seem to absolve Mourinho of any blame when Utd hit bad run.
 
Random Task said:
Identical situation to Moyes and LVG, apparently Woody and the board do not feel obliged to act in a dignified manner when it comes to parting ways with a club employee.

Jose deserves to be sacked, but he does not deserve to be treated with a complete lack of respect.
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The problem with that is Jose has repeatedly disrespected Woodward publicly. At the end if the day that’s his boss that his passive aggressive and thinly veiled comments are aimed at.
 
So..if we slaughter Newcastle 4-0 wil Jose carrying off a Paul Pogba who literally cannot walk because he's run himself into the ground for his beloved leader he'll still be sacked before Strictly Come Dancing? I don't see that. If we lose then draw..yeah then I can see him being relieved of his duties but it'll surely depend on the result.
 
So for a precis he'll manage the Newcastle game and then be sacked even if he wins? I remember the same happened to Mark Hughes at Man. City years ago, news leaked on the morning of a game he was getting sacked and was a wierd atmosphere.

Just as an aside didn't realise David McDonnell was still a journalist at the Mirror. Been there donkeys years, remember Fergie used to regularly rip into him at press conferences.:lol:
 
Pogue Mahone said:
A merry go round without hiring any of the usual suspects. I’d take a steady hand like Ancelotti in a heart beat. Don’t think I can take another manager with massive question marks hanging over him.
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I think that line of thinking got us Jose. I think Ancelotti would be another disaster we'd have to replace in a couple of seasons.
 
PoTMS said:
Wah wah, disgraceful, my butt cheek. You guys can't have your cake and eat it too. Get him out ASAP while we still have time to salvage our season.
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Sure they can. You can support the sacking and condemn the manner of it. These are two separate things.
 
PoTMS said:
Wah wah, disgraceful, my butt cheek. You guys can't have your cake and eat it too. Get him out ASAP while we still have time to salvage our season.
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Aye, all crying they want him gone and then crying that we somehow aren’t doing it ”with class”.

Sacking someone is never classy, but that’s football, get over it.
 
Skills said:
Didn't some news about Van Gaal getting sacked in November break out too? And then he had a massive meltdown about it post match?

I'm trying not to get excited about this.
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Mince Pie gate. He was spot on.
 
This escalated quickly! Why on the weekend? Who schedules something like that? :lol:

Also, Conte? Do we have enough CBs?

Edit: Also who cares about how it is done? Mourinho will have more than 10m pounds to console him.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
A merry go round without hiring any of the usual suspects. I’d take a steady hand like Ancelotti in a heart beat. Don’t think I can take another manager with massive question marks hanging over him and - make no mistake - that’s exactly the category that Zidane belongs to.
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Ancelotti's Bayern tenure has also put a huge question mark on his head.
 
If this turns out to be untrue I'd love to see the club take legal action against the Mirror. This is bound to be detrimental to our preparation for the Newcastle game. Journos shouldn't be able to make up any old shit without repercussions.
 
JMack1234 said:
So..if we slaughter Newcastle 4-0 wil Jose carrying off a Paul Pogba who literally cannot walk because he's run himself into the ground for his beloved leader he'll still be sacked before Strictly Come Dancing? I don't see that. If we lose then draw..yeah then I can see him being relieved of his duties but it'll surely depend on the result.
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We'll know if he's been sacked by the team selection tomorrow. It will be an open protest, no Pogba, no Sanchez, Fellani to start with a bunch of kids. He'll make it clear who's supported him and who hasn't.
 
This is disgraceful if true.
Why should he bother turning up? Whoever has leaked this needs to be rooted out.
Then again, it could be complete lies like when Sanchez was never gonna play again.
 
Conte is the only feasible option as caretaker. He has experience in the league. He can get performances out of average players. He wanted Lukaku and Sanchez at Chelsea. If not him then who else? Wouldnt want Zidane mid season.
 
if the Newcastle match doesn't sway the decision anyway, why not sack him a couple of days earlier and give Carrick/McKenna the Newcastle game? Could have given them a bit of spark. If (and that's still a big IF, although McDonnell is not that bad IIRC) Mourinho is sacked, then doing it after the Valencia game would have made more sense.
 
Frasbul said:
For all the hate Mourinho gets, I think he did alright with us. He won two trophies, reached a final and let us to our best league campaign since Fergie.
He isn't the "special one" anymore, but people are stupid when they say that he is past it.

I don't get the board. They didn't back him. Why was he forced to stick with Martial, why didn't he get Perisic or an experienced center back. We would be better now for sure.

For what it's worth: I think it is the right decision to part ways, if he really lost the dressing room but his time with us shouldn't be seen as a failure.
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He stabilized the ship that was sinking and bought better players than LVG. But he couldn't take us further. He didn't get the best out of the players that he bought and perhaps the board felt that they shouldn't give more money for this reason.
 
sam147 said:
Conte is the only feasible option as caretaker. He has experience in the league. He can get performances out of average players. He wanted Lukaku and Sanchez at Chelsea. If not him then who else? Wouldnt want Zidane mid season.
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There's no chance he'd take a caretaker job. Why would he?
 
Tom Van Persie said:
Nobody is defending Moyes here. We're discussing the way he was sacked.
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It’s hard to do a classy sacking in the public eye when the whole world can see how much he failed, it’s a sacking at the end of the day it’s never going to be a bed of roses.
 
I don’t get why people are so upset by this. He’s going to get a very adequate compensation package. It’s a business, sometimes shit like this happens.

If we get a new manager in and actually start to improve and reach our potential who really cares?
 
Frasbul said:
For all the hate Mourinho gets, I think he did alright with us. He won two trophies, reached a final and let us to our best league campaign since Fergie.
He isn't the "special one" anymore, but people are stupid when they say that he is past it.

I don't get the board. They didn't back him. Why was he forced to stick with Martial, why didn't he get Perisic or an experienced center back. We would be better now for sure.

For what it's worth: I think it is the right decision to part ways, if he really lost the dressing room but his time with us shouldn't be seen as a failure.
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You may have a point

However all his signings have flopped so far; fred, baily, lindelof, sanchez, lukaku are either being benched or having their worst runs. What's to say Perisic or the 'experienced center back' would have solved anything?
 
Weird mix of feelings on this.

On the one hand I do think Mourinho has to go. On the other, I don't think our problems will dissapear with him. The issues that have caused us to move on to our fourth manager since SAF left will still remain. I have little optimism that we won't be on to manager number five in another couple of years.

I also dislike the way this is being done. Regardless of what we think of the manager, having him play the next game as a dead man walking is wrong and I feel some pity and sympathy for him. On the other hand, the way we sacked LVG was far worse again and Mourinho seemed happy enough to benefit from that, so....

Mostly though I'm thinking about all the years prior to his appointment as our manager, where he seemed to hold the club in the highest regard and apparently long dreamt of being Manchester United manager at some point. Yet from the moment he arrived it never quite seemed like the fulfilment of that dream was playing out the way he might have hoped. In some ways that's rather sad. I remember thinking when he was appointed that if nothing else this was a guy who really wanted this job, yet he never seemed totally happy with it.
 
PoTMS said:
Wah wah, disgraceful, my butt cheek. You guys can't have your cake and eat it too. Get him out ASAP while we still have time to salvage our season.
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The season is unsalvageable, you don't sack your manager and expect all the negativity and shit to go away. Imagine you turned up to work on Monday and everyone in the world knew you were about to be sacked and you were the last person to find out? It's a shambles.
 
Regulus Arcturus Black said:
Aye, all crying they want him gone and then crying that we somehow aren’t doing it ”with class”.

Sacking someone is never classy, but that’s football, get over it.
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Yeah, I felt the same way about Van Gaal. If you want someone gone then fecking get rid, the sooner the better. Exactly when the story breaks is no big deal. At the end of the day, this is good news for everyone who wanted Mourinho gone (most people on redcafe)

I just wish there was an obvious, quality replacement. That’s the bit that has me anxious.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
A merry go round without hiring any of the usual suspects. I’d take a steady hand like Ancelotti in a heart beat. Don’t think I can take another manager with massive question marks hanging over him and - make no mistake - that’s exactly the category that Zidane belongs to.
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If there's questions marks over whether Mourinho is past it then those same questions have to be asked about Ancelotti and if a serial winner like Mourinho can't come in and guarantee a title like he's done everywhere else then every appointment now has their own question marks
 
Pogue Mahone said:
A merry go round without hiring any of the usual suspects. I’d take a steady hand like Ancelotti in a heart beat. Don’t think I can take another manager with massive question marks hanging over him and - make no mistake - that’s exactly the category that Zidane belongs to.
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I’m not really on the Zidane boat myself, beyond a sentimental/foolish wish to see the best player of a generation on our touch line. I’m thinking and worried about what Chelsea have done repeatedly and perhaps what Arsenal have done with Emery. When I see names like Jardim and Paulo Sousa mentioned the most enthusiasm I can muster is a shrug. Looking across Europe I reckon Allegri may be the safest choice, but we’re obviously not getting him mid-season.
 
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