Cristiano Ronaldo

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Proud_Lyon said:
But he is still continuing to play a large number of Manchester United fans like violins, treating them like puppets though.
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:lol:

Come on. I am no Ronaldo fan but that is a bit preposterous. Don't blame him for people foolish enough to live in the hope that he'll return.
 
Proud_Lyon said:
But he is still continuing to play a large number of Manchester United fans like violins, treating them like puppets though.
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What's that got to do with me? How many Utd fans do you know that would claim Ronaldo didn't want to leave?
 
Ish84045 said:
Not to nitpick or anything Erica, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, but how can a United fan hate/loathe Beckham and idolise Ronaldo?

I'd reckon Becks is a bigger legend to this club then Ronaldo, and he, IMO probably contributed more to United as well - and he was sold. He didn't want to leave. In fact, the wee glamorous bastard still comes to watch us as much as possible. Becks just comes across as a fan, like one of us, who lived his dream.

I know Becks made some stupid (celebrity) decisions in his life, but still, he's United through and through.
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I didn't want him to leave, I could never understand why someone who regularly professed his love for United wouldn't sign a new contract. Loathe is a daft word for me to use, but I didn't like him for a very long time.
 
Ronaldo's Mum said:
One thing I didn't like about Beckham was that he was pushing for Ronaldo to leave United for Madrid during the Ronaldo transfer saga. Came across as a little prick.
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I thought that was Van Nistelrooy? I remember thinking it odd at the time because he and CR hadn't, by all accounts, got on that well.

And I'm still not convinced that Beckham wanted to leave United - that's always been a question of who you believe, because I never heard Beckham say as much, though I have heard him say the opposite.
 
Originally Posted by Ronaldo's Mum View Post
One thing I didn't like about Beckham was that he was pushing for Ronaldo to leave United for Madrid during the Ronaldo transfer saga. Came across as a little prick.
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That is pretty harsh considering it is the wrong information. How can there be so much hatred against one of the club legends on this forum?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-14173/Beckham-I-want-stay.html

As for Ruud, he had a fight with Cristiano Ronaldo apparently in training and Sir Alex basically had to choose between the two to leave out, and it was Ruud. I always thought it takes two to tango, thus they should have both been left out.

Edit: Ruud scored 150 goals in 5 season, and if he had stayed, he could have been pretty close to beating Alan Shearers record by now.
 
Proud_Lyon said:
That is pretty harsh considering it is the wrong information. How can there be so much hatred against one of the club legends on this forum?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-14173/Beckham-I-want-stay.html

As for Ruud, he had a fight with Cristiano Ronaldo apparently in training and Sir Alex basically had to choose between the two to leave out, and it was Ruud. I always thought it takes two to tango, thus they should have both been left out.

Edit: Ruud scored 150 goals in 5 season, and if he had stayed, he could have been pretty close to beating Alan Shearers record by now.
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Same could be said about Ronaldo.
 
Proud_Lyon said:
As for Ruud, he had a fight with Cristiano Ronaldo apparently in training and Sir Alex basically had to choose between the two to leave out, and it was Ruud. I always thought it takes two to tango, thus they should have both been left out.

Edit: Ruud scored 150 goals in 5 season, and if he had stayed, he could have been pretty close to beating Alan Shearers record by now.
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RvN according to SAF had already handed in transfer requests two years running. He got dropped because the team played better without him and he sulked about it. He got into rows with Quieroz. I'm sure RvN had plenty of rows with Ronaldo over the years, he just kept it up too long. I doubt SAF's interested in tangos he's interested in team building.

Or, as he phrased it the following year, after we won the PL

"Well, Roy (Keane) was certainly a difficult one," Ferguson said in the Daily Star. "He has been such a big influence on the club.

"I'm not so sure about Van Nistelrooy. That was not such a big decision at all.

"You need a good team spirit in the dressing room and from day one this group seem to gel straight away. That was what I wanted.
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At the time and in retrospect it still seems crazy to me that Fergie couldn't mend the problems with Beckham and with Ruud. I don't think anyone believes Fergie couldn't turn Ronaldo away from going to Real Madrid. But Becks and Ruud still had a lot left in their locker and, at least from a distance, it does seem as though the issues could have been sorted out with both. But maybe not.
 
Ruud10 said:
At the time and in retrospect it still seems crazy to me that Fergie couldn't mend the problems with Beckham and with Ruud. I don't think anyone believes Fergie couldn't turn Ronaldo away from going to Real Madrid. But Becks and Ruud still had a lot left in their locker and, at least from a distance, it does seem as though the issues could have been sorted out with both. But maybe not.
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You mean 'could'?

Fergie is quite ruthless when his relationship with a player is damaged. I think he's more or less resolved it with Beckham now, but I'm virtually certain that it was down to efforts on Beckham's part, not Fergie's.
 
I stand corrected, but I swear I had read an article at the time suggesting Ronaldo to leave and join Madrid.

RK said:
Beckham is also far prettier than Ronaldo, the wannabe...
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No he's not :lol:

Ronnie's got that exotic look and by far, the prettier bird :drool:
 
Livvie said:
You mean 'could'?

Fergie is quite ruthless when his relationship with a player is damaged. I think he's more or less resolved it with Beckham now, but I'm virtually certain that it was down to efforts on Beckham's part, not Fergie's.
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Yes, I did mean "could", not "couldn't". Thanks for the catch!

You're probably right about Becks. There was the Posh influence and the beginning of the creepy tats all over his back, neck and arms. His head had gone and I doubt Fergie had ever dealt with anything like it before. Spilled milk.
 
"I want to see out my contract at Real Madrid: I'm very clear about that. After that, well, I don't know what'll happen in the future."

He should ask God.
 
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1301303/united-return-ronaldos-agenda?cc=4716

For the first time since arriving in 2009, a dissatisfied Cristiano Ronaldo no longer sees his long-term future at Real Madrid and has made it known to Manchester United that he favours an eventual return to Old Trafford.

The development, which has been revealed to ESPN by well-placed figures close to both clubs as well as the player, tallies with Ronaldo's recent public comments regarding his next move.

In the last week, although initially unwilling to discuss his future, the forward has admitted that "anything is possible" and that, after his current contract runs out in 2015, "I don't know what will happen in the future".

Tellingly, those comments themselves mirror Ronaldo's statements when he was trying to engineer a move to Real Madrid back in 2008 and 2009. Although that eventual world-record transfer was the fulfilment of a lifelong dream for the Portuguese, he has become concerned about the Spanish champions' capability of regularly matching his current ambitions.

Ronaldo is said to be dismayed at the state the team are currently in as well as the rapid regression following last season's record-breaking title win. Exacerbating that are issues like a perceived failure to back the player in his Ballon d'Or campaign, the state of siege in which his manager Jose Mourinho now finds himself and the apparent infighting as a result of the unrest. With the Real boss almost certain to depart the club in the summer, Ronaldo is concerned about where the club go next.

The situation is a far cry from the stability and regular trophies he experienced during his last three years at Old Trafford under Sir Alex Ferguson - with whom he has maintained contact.

Those at United were surprised but encouraged by the developments, although they understand that the situation is far from straightforward and any transfer would only come in the long term.

For a start, a major trophy like the Champions League - which would ironically have involve a victory over United this season - could help to ease the situation at the Bernabeu. That was what happened with Mourinho's own uncertain situation last season after the league title win.

Secondly, if that does not happen, Ronaldo's emotional connection to Old Trafford and his strong willingness to work with Ferguson again must still be balanced against his long-held ambition to become the best-paid and most prestigious player in the world.

Although the Glazers have been occasionally willing to deviate from transfer policy to keep United competitive at the top level - as with the Robin van Persie signing - they still generally operate within the financial constraints they have themselves imposed.

An example came following the capture of Van Persie. Although Ferguson was still insistent on capturing Leighton Baines, Everton's greatly increased asking price of £18 million for the left-back meant the Glazers were unwilling to sanction another high fee so soon after Van Persie.

Meeting Ronaldo's market value - of which the player is understandably aware, despite any emotion about his old club - would involve a few big decisions. The club's hierarchy, however, would also look at his commercial potential, which has grown dramatically since he left in 2009.

However, if Ronaldo chooses to leave Real at the end of his current deal in the summer of 2014 that would negate the need for any transfer fee and create much greater flexibility on the value of his playing contract.

Ronaldo may still look to Paris Saint-Germain. The forward is understood to be too loyal to his past to consider a move to either Manchester City or Chelsea, leaving the French side as one of the few elite clubs that could afford him in the event he leaves Madrid.

One Old Trafford source said that "the situation can change but it's one to keep an eye on".
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1. No quotes
2. No way in hell we can afford him unless he runs down his contract
3. Real will probably kill him before he is allowed to run down said contract
4. Fergie will probably be gone in 2014/2015 when Ronaldo's contract ends
5. Having said all that, imagine a front 4 of Ronaldo, Rooney, RVP and Nani.
 
wonnie said:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1301303/united-return-ronaldos-agenda?cc=4716



1. No quotes
2. No way in hell we can afford him unless he runs down his contract
3. Real will probably kill him before he is allowed to run down said contract
4. Fergie will probably be gone in 2014/2015 when Ronaldo's contract ends
5. Having said all that, imagine a front 4 of Ronaldo, Rooney, RVP and Nani.
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1. So why fill so much space with so little information?
2. was that not what the article was aiming towards?
3. In reality, Real can't do a thing if he decides to let it run down other than stop fielding him...
4. Fergie would probably have gone in 2002, you can't ever predict that
5. :drool: feck ye, although I imagine Ronnie aged 30+ wouldn't be this pacey winger type, i see him as more of a CAM perhaps with his technical skills and lethal shot perhaps?
 
It doesn't matter if he's gone in 14/15, it matters if he's gone in 15/16, the season where Ferguson turns 75. Ferguson being around would only have a serious impact on Ronaldo's decision if he'd actually get to play under him.
 
Based on what we've been reading lately, we still don't know shit. But we caftards can be forgiven for suspecting there might be a chance Ronaldo will return to Old Trafford, this summer or next summer. Huge barriers to making this happen remain and there's even a chance Fergie might NOT want Ronaldo back.

I wouldn't get giddy, though. Early days, twists and turns and all that.
 
I'll probably get slated for this, but I don't want him back here. I'm not saying he's not a top player, he's amazing, and I'm grateful for what he did when he played here, but I'm just fed up with all the drama surrounding him, the stories (admittedly, this is just cooked up media bollocks, yes, but there's no smoke without fire, and it's not a surprise there's always stories surrounding him), the fact it all has to be about him, the lack of humility... I enjoy watching him, I think he's a sensational player but I just don't want him back here, I don't think it's what's best for the team.
 
In the last week, although initially unwilling to discuss his future, the forward has admitted that "anything is possible" and that, after his current contract runs out in 2015, "I don't know what will happen in the future".
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However, if Ronaldo chooses to leave Real at the end of his current deal in the summer of 2014 that would negate the need for any transfer fee and create much greater flexibility on the value of his playing contract.
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So which is it? Am I missing something or has he just contradicted himself?
 
Doubt it's 2014. The media shitestorm would be much bigger and there'd be panic from the Madrid camp.
 
When you sign a 6-year contract in 2009, I think it ends in 2015.

Not sure, though.
 
Even if it runs out in 2015 though they will have to sell him (unless they are willing to lose out on a lot of money) next summer (2014) if he refuses to sign a new deal. Id fecking love to see him back here he's the best player iv ever seen for us.
 
Isn't there FIFA regulations that only allow 5 year contracts unless State law allows longer? Anything over this is for financial rather than practical reasons as the player only has a non-binding option to extend (as was the case with Cesc's 8 year contract)? Pretty Sure this happened with Messi and basically it makes no difference.
 
Dion said:
Isn't there FIFA regulations that only allow 5 year contracts unless State law allows longer? Anything over this is for financial rather than practical reasons as the player only has a non-binding option to extend (as was the case with Cesc's 8 year contract)? Pretty Sure this happened with Messi and basically it makes no difference.
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http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/01/06/30/78/statusinhalt_en_122007.pdf

Correct. So he should be able to leave Madrid in 2014. But journalists have much more important things to investigate like Balotelli's Bentley.
 
Sure he'll improve the team, but going back to your former club hasn't worked out for many players. Do not want, and we have to pander to him if we sign him.

Couple of additions in center midfield and we'll be all set. Chase your childhood dream Ronaldo.
 
fishfingers15 said:
Sure he'll improve the team, but going back to your former club hasn't worked out for many players. Do not want, and we have to pander to him if we sign him.

Couple of additions in center midfield and we'll be all set. Chase your childhood dream Ronaldo.
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Examples?

I'm not certain but I'd say it has worked out for as many as it hasn't worked for.
 
fishfingers15 said:
Sure he'll improve the team, but going back to your former club hasn't worked out for many players. Do not want, and we have to pander to him if we sign him.

Couple of additions in center midfield and we'll be all set. Chase your childhood dream Ronaldo.
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I'd have him back. The best player I've seen in a United shirt.
 
fishfingers15 said:
It worked for Mark Hughes and Ian Rush, at the top of my head. The rest all must be failures then, naturally.
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There's probably more examples of where coming back to a club has been less successful. However, I'd suggest that's because the returning player is often past it.
 
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