Real would never have the dignity to sell him back for less what they payed for, even if the transfer is justified.
Cristiano Ronaldo
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Yeah, I don't think it will happen.. The Glazers probably think that the past Summer was our spending Summer, and next Summer should be dedicated to paying off the debt, and SAF knows that..
why would dignity come into it?
He's worth more now than what he went for (though we undersold him).
Of course they would never sell him back for less than 80.
if city wins the league again and we go trophy-less for a 2nd year running, do you think SAF will accept it and just roll over on his back and let the gingers tickle him?
He'll have two years left on his contract at the end of the season and he has a chronic ankle condition. Soon his hair will start to go, then the teeth, then the eyebrows. 
Time to start talking the price down.
Time to start talking the price down.
The problem is we can't afford him. No matter what SAF thinks and wants. There is no way we can compete with PSG and City in spending, unless Ronaldo himself "does a Fabregas"..
What?
Sell a more valuable player for less than what he cost? Real fans would indeed think of it as a very dignified move.
That said, Real has offloaded players in the past for much less than they were worth, so I don't even think you can make the case that they're excessively greedy. Unlikely that will happen with Ronaldo, of course. But he's a special case.
He'll have two years left on his contract at the end of the season and he has a chronic ankle condition. Soon his hair will start to go, then the teeth, then the eyebrows.
Time to start talking the price down.
We'll bid for his eyebrows.
Would people prefer to spend say 100mil on Ronaldo or buy 3-4 players with the 100mil for the long term?
Though maybe its best to buy Ronaldo in that hypothetical situation as we wouldnt buy a Cm anyway.
with 100 mill we would probably buy 3 kids and baines.
summer 2014...he will have 1 more year at his current contact...therefore his price will be nothing more than 50 million...either real will tale the 50 million or they will lose him for nothing next summer...
We should start the bidding at £50m + Nani in the summer since the club seem determined to isolate Nani as much as possible - win/win situation as Real can then buy Falcao, thus keeping him away from Chelsea or City.
Maybe even throw in Bebe, can't say fairer than that
Wage negotiations can start on RVP/Rooney level + whatever we our position is with image rights.
Now the only thing left to do is convince Valencia to switch numbers
Maybe even throw in Bebe, can't say fairer than that
Wage negotiations can start on RVP/Rooney level + whatever we our position is with image rights.
Now the only thing left to do is convince Valencia to switch numbers
this is why i avoid like aids the transfer forum
That Gary Neville article was very interesting. Gives you the impression Messi being the number one player must really eat away at Ronaldo.
I get called a fan boy but i'd personally buy Ronaldo back. Ronaldo is one of the two best players in the world. I know some people say it wouldn't be the same etc or you should never go back but there are exceptions to that rule.
Most people would say he left too soon. Ronaldo would scare the shit out of teams. Litterly. He's worth 2/3 players. He would sell a shit load of shirts, make the club a fortune and would inspire everyone else in the squad. It would also return a bit of magic to the club - that we'd probably lost until that RVP signing.
To me it's a non brainer
Come on lads, lets chip in. If we all give a tenner...
Get him on a plane,
Get him on a plane,
Literally.
I really couldn't agree more here. I just wish he'd not gone in the first place.
I am certain it does. But he uses that as motivation.
I love reading books about Michael Jordan, and what made him tick. As perhaps the most competitive athlete ever, he would always look for the slightest perceived slight and use it to improve and get better.
Ronaldo is the same. Think he must be one of the most dedicated footballers around with regard to improving as a player. The Gary Neville post a page back shows that he wants team success, but realises that the better he is, the more chance the team has.
Always think back to the Nike ad - "Your love makes me strong. Your hate makes me unstoppable".
Not 3-4 players. But 2. A £60-70m midfield general and £30m + left over for someone else.
Not that I wouldn't welcome Ronaldo back. I'd just rather have a top notch midfielder.
We should start the bidding at £50m + Nani in the summer since the club seem determined to isolate Nani as much as possible - win/win situation as Real can then buy Falcao, thus keeping him away from Chelsea or City.
Maybe even throw in Bebe, can't say fairer than that
Wage negotiations can start on RVP/Rooney level + whatever we our position is with image rights.
Now the only thing left to do is convince Valencia to switch numbers
TV keeps playing like he's been, there will be no need for that as he'll be out of the shirt completely.
I said this years ago and some cnut tagged me with that petty tag. Barcelona would walk the league in spain every year if Madrid didn't have Ronaldo and if we did, we'd be champions because his potential is incredible. Just a pity we don't have the money
Yep, but its what makes him better and better. I remember hearing/reading many athletes saying when there is competition with another athlete then it only makes them even more determined to improve. Also just because Ronaldo has made it so obvious he wants to be known the best officially, doesn't mean Messi isn't working extra hard to prove himself too.
I do love that, 'too much water kills the plant'.
But also, Gary Neville is amazing.
But also, Gary Neville is amazing.
True, it's possible that they both have each other to thank for, in part. Ronaldo's presence means Messi can't slow down, and it's impressive how the former doesn't back down in any way.
I really think they're the two most consistent footballers I've ever seen.
I reckon the fact that Messi is arguably better than him is what's keeping Ronaldo going strong in second place, otherwise he would slip up by now but obviously you get the idea he hates it.
The more I think think about him, the less I think I know/knew about football. I remember watching him around 2003-6, and not in a million years did I think he would become as good as he is.
I think Messi has improved since Ronaldo went to La Liga. Messi, in the same year that Ronaldo got 42 goals for us, Messi only scored 16. Once Ronaldo came to La Liga, Messi knew he had to up his game and scored 38 in the following season. Even now, Messi has been improving his free-kicks, that were inspired by Ronaldo thus adding an extra attribute to his game. They are both great footballers, and I'll be honest, I hope Ronaldo does retire at Real Madrid, since he seems to be enjoying his football there and rightly so.
Ronaldo and Messi remind me of Federer and Nadal. Everyone waiting for people like Djokovic and Murray to join them, but them being so far ahead.
The difference being Federer had 5 years on Nadal. Had Ronaldo had 5 years on Messi we would be talking about him as one of the greatest ever (not that we aren't anyway), but who is to say he would have the discipline to last so long at the top. Then again, who is to say he wouldn't.
The difference being Federer had 5 years on Nadal. Had Ronaldo had 5 years on Messi we would be talking about him as one of the greatest ever (not that we aren't anyway), but who is to say he would have the discipline to last so long at the top. Then again, who is to say he wouldn't.
Apparently neither did his teammates.
I really would love to know what exactly sparked that change in his attitude where he decided to throw all the unnecessary tricks overboard and go for physical power and efficiency instead.
Just shows how tough it is to judge young players. I wonder if Rooney could have been an even better player with a Ronaldo type work ethic. Getting fat and smoking would probably suggest this isn't the case with him. But then again, maybe he has worked hard throughout his career and this is just his top level.
He grew up.
Just think:
Rafael-------Vidic-----Rio--------Evra
---Clev---Carrick/Fletch---Anderson---
Rooney--------RVP----------Ronaldo
Oh Ronnie, I'd have him back in a heartbeat
Rio is going to China or rteiring next year, Vidic is finished, Clev is average, Carrick is mediocre, Fletch will never come back the same, Anderson will never be the player we'd have hoped for.
HTH
Messi was injured for long stretches of that season.
Unfortunately
Not that much, a month or two. Still a daft comparison, he was still mainly used on the wing by then, was only 20, and only became a very prolific scorer in the following season. Which considering their age, actually was earlier than Ronaldo.
Yet hundreds of other players cannot.
The spark is Sir Alex. He personally made Ronaldo his pet project.
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