Cristiano Ronaldo

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Vato said:
I couldn't agree more. He looks like an Adonis who's talented to bits when it comes to football, but if he was a bit smarter about how people perceive him, he'd be adored by neutral football fans too and not only by the the fanboys who're blinded by their love for his success. It's a shame really, he could be so much moe if it wasn't for his vanity. Which is a bit ironic as we all know he just wants to be loved so much.
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I doubt he gives a flying feck, to be honest.

As ever, there are two sides to the coin. I read that he's set to rake in a bonus of around £1m that he's giving to RM staff and charity. What a despicable tosser!

It's gutting that one of the greatest of all time is plying his trade at a club where the fans habitually give him a hard time. He's not the first goal scorer to be happier after scoring!
 
Enough about that celebration. I just wished i have that amazing body of his. Probably the best ever for a footballer

Can you imagine that 18 year old scrawny kid who turned up at Old Trafford in 2003?
 
SATA said:
Enough about that celebration. I just wished i have that amazing body of his. Probably the best ever for a footballer

Can you imagine that 18 year old scrawny kid who turned up at Old Trafford in 2003?
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Akinbiyi was a ripped to shreds beast.
 
I get the feeling he's happier about scoring that penalty than Real Madrid winning the trophy, baffling that he didn't join in the celebrations when Ramos and Bale scored (not sure about Marcelo's goal). That's why I can't relate to him, even though his ability deserves respect.
 
When Real were doing the photo huddle at the end of the game, Ronaldo gravitated to the edges,pretending not to be too bothered, but it was pretty clear by his positioning that he was waiting for somebody to call him into the centre of it.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
I get the feeling he's happier about scoring that penalty than Real Madrid winning the trophy, baffling that he didn't join in the celebrations when Ramos and Bale scored (not sure about Marcelo's goal). That's why I can't relate to him, even though his ability deserves respect.
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Do you think that make sense?
 
Isotope said:
You got that feeling just because you don't like him. Yes?
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I got that feeling because of the massive difference in how he celebrates his own goals (not just last night) compared to his team mates goals. I don't like the guy and never will but that's not why I think it.
 
You people are over analyzing too much on his celebration. Yes it was abit over the top, but give the man a break, he was brilliant throughout the tournament with record 17 goals score.

Fact is he just rushed back from injury and was not 100% fit to play the match, yet for majority of game he still offer something as a team player, play unselfishly and when he scored the final goal in cup final at home soil, the same stadium where Portugal has lost out in Euro final 10 years ago, he deserve to release all his emotion and celebrated the way he did.
 
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Bob Loblaw said:
I got that feeling because of the massive difference in how he celebrates his own goals (not just last night) compared to his team mates goals. I don't like the guy and never will but that's not why I think it.
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Yes. That feeling you have is never because you don't like him.
 
There was a lot of narcissim on display last night, did anybody notice Ramos matador routine, or Arbeloa getting pissed at an old bloke photo bombing his trophy moment?
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Indeed. Some people have an ability to think objectively.
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Indeed.

Bob Loblaw said:
I get the feeling he's happier about scoring that penalty than Real Madrid winning the trophy, baffling that he didn't join in the celebrations when Ramos and Bale scored (not sure about Marcelo's goal). That's why I can't relate to him, even though his ability deserves respect.
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Bob Loblaw said:
I got that feeling because of the massive difference in how he celebrates his own goals (not just last night) compared to his team mates goals. I don't like the guy and never will but that's not why I think it.
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Well, this debate sure is fun...

Don't really care if you don't agree but there's nothing more to discuss.
 
Rossa said:
I think a lot of people criticize him for acting differently than British players do.
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What does nationality have to do with it? Terry was ripped to shreds for making it all about him, and rightly so.

I watched the game and saw his reaction to the goals. The game was already won and he was still desperate to score and take his top off so he could get on the front page of the papers today. When he won the penalty he looked happier than when Bale scored.
 
I_live_cement said:
What does nationality have to do with it? Terry was ripped to shreds for making it all about him, and rightly so.

I watched the game and saw his reaction to the goals. The game was already won and he was still desperate to score and take his top off so he could get on the front page of the papers today. When he won the penalty he looked happier than when Bale scored.
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So, he likes scoring goals? Desperate to score goals after the game being won is what we are screaming out for our players to do - big deal! When he was injured, I've rarely seen more enthusiastic a player on the bench than him when other players scored and performed well. I think people are reading way too much into this and are finding ways to criticize no matter what.
 
the truth is that he celebrated his 17th goal in a single CL -a record i seriously doubt it could be broken unless the CL turns in a 30 game tournament- when they where about to win it

so i don't think that his celebration was over the top
 
AkaAkuma said:
When Real were doing the photo huddle at the end of the game, Ronaldo gravitated to the edges,pretending not to be too bothered, but it was pretty clear by his positioning that he was waiting for somebody to call him into the centre of it.
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I remember when the final whistle went when we won against Chelsea. He started running towards the other players and then stopped and collapsed in the centre circle crying. He always looks up at the main stadium screen to to see if he is being televised in close up. He's vain..but one thing is for sure, he definitely has something to ve vain about!!
 
I do like Ronaldo but I despise everything Real Madrid stand for. Their whole ethos to me is despicable. Wealth, explotation, arrogance are words you would associate with the club he plays for. They are a massive club but they sure have spent a lot of fecking money.

Regarding Ronaldo. He may come across as an absolute tosser when playing football but off the pitch he isn't. He does a lot for charity and doesn't force it in our faces like others do, similar to Drogba who does enoromous amounts for charity, (cnut on the field, very likable off it). I know a few people who go after celebrities, mainly footballers, for autographs known as 'graphers' and they all say Messi is an arsehole whereas Ronaldo always stops and has time for the public whether they are genuine fans or graphers. Infact everyone I know who has met Ronaldo has said positive things about him.
The money, fame and looks are a massive reason why a lot of people hate him. There's not many other justified reason, its simply pure jealousy. When he plays football he is so animated it can come across negatively but I just think he is so passionate and hates losing. He is not in the same league as the likes of Ramos, Costa, Pepe who are genuinely dirty, violent individuals. A majority of his success is down to his mental strength imo. He isn't as gifted as Messi but he uses his body to the maximum and has got the best out of himself. He is such a competitive person and a bad loser which is what drove him to become such a top athlete. All them extra hours he put in at Carrington really have paid off.
Congratulations.
 
Good post Predator and spot on. I think too many people struggle to separate Ronaldo the man from Ronaldo the player. Is he arrogant on the pitch? Yes. He does throw temper tantrums but this is only because he positively hates losing. He wants to be the best so badly that it has given him the extra motivation to elevate his game. If you removed his arrogance and desire to be centre of attention then he wouldn't be the same player.

Ferguson is another who has rubbed people up the wrong way through his demeanour from a footballing side of things, yet he seems a genuinely good man from stories I have heard. Likewise Ronaldo who does a hell of a lot of charity work.

I must say im very pleased for him. It feels good that a player who spent his most important development years at our club has become the player he is today. It's difficult to begrudge him the CL victory considering what a hard working individual he is.
 
I_live_cement said:
What does nationality have to do with it? Terry was ripped to shreds for making it all about him, and rightly so.

I watched the game and saw his reaction to the goals. The game was already won and he was still desperate to score and take his top off so he could get on the front page of the papers today. When he won the penalty he looked happier than when Bale scored.
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Yea, when he scored against bayern after bale had set him up, he went off celebrating "15 goals." instead of thanking bale. terrific player, no question. In the top ten of all time, but more interested in individual accolades rather than the team.
 
northbynorthwest said:
Yea, when he scored against bayern after bale had set him up, he went off celebrating "15 goals." instead of thanking bale. terrific player, no question. In the top ten of all time, but more interested in individual accolades rather than the team.
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Yes, there's one thing you can say about Ronaldo....he doesn't really mind if he loses a game.:wenger:

I see a lot of people go off celebrating when they score. (Admittedly, it should be getting fairly ordinary for Ronaldo at this point, but maybe when it stops being incredible, that will be when he's done as a player.)

There's a weird stalker boyfriend vibe to this thread (not this post). Where people start worrying about who he smiles at, and where he stands, and what he says.....
 
Rossa said:
Why is it ridiculous when half the posters who slag him talk about him just wanting to brag about himself and show off his pecks?
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I don't really get your point here. You're saying that any time someone is criticised for bragging or showing off their pecks it's inevitably down to jealousy? You can't think of any other possible reasons? Come on. Some people just don't like vanity, you know. Vanity has been seen as a personal vice by many for centuries.
 
I don't see what the issue is with him celebrating his goal like that. Obviously it meant a lot to him, considering the stick he has taken from the media and from idiots like Blatter. It was also his home country.

Just because he didn't do all that much in the final shouldn't mean that he cannot celebrate. He is the reason they were in the final. 16 goals leading up to the game is insane.
 
steffyr2 said:
Yes, there's one thing you can say about Ronaldo....he doesn't really mind if he loses a game.:wenger:

I see a lot of people go off celebrating when they score. (Admittedly, it should be getting fairly ordinary for Ronaldo at this point, but maybe when it stops being incredible, that will be when he's done as a player.)

There's a weird stalker boyfriend vibe to this thread (not this post). Where people start worrying about who he smiles at, and where he stands, and what he says.....
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if ronaldo had scored the winning goal, his celebration would have been justified. The fact that they were 3-1 up with 20 seconds remaining when he took the kick, makes the outcome of the penalty redundant and hence any celebration pretty worthless. What ronaldo was doing was saying look at me, i got 16 goals, when it was bale who scored the decisive goal and ramos the one who got them out of jail.

Ronaldo seemed to forget that the team came within 1 and a half minutes of winning nothing and only for ramos's goal he would have won nothing, despite his brilliant goal tally.

I am not making it personal. I am simply making an impartial view of what i have seen ronaldo do. His team mates do so much for him and he rarely thanks them publicly and ive seen it a lot. We know how good ronaldo is and he doesnt have to go and show off and demonstrate to the world his talent.

I would guess one of the reasons he celebrated like that was he knew he played poorly and that the papers would be criticizing him tomorrow. I would say he dreamed of scoring a hat trick last night and got a rude awakening as to how poorly he played, with respect to what he can do. He had to score a goal in the final, that was haunting him. I would say that had he not scored a goal and real won 3-1, he would have been bitterly disappointed. Thats the psychology of the guy.
 
RedStarUnited said:
No offence but I think thats bullshit. Benzema is a great striker for them. He is one of the best players in the build up and holding up. All that and 25 goals a season, and you call him useless?
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You should consider the amount of chances real madrid creates compared to how much he scores. He makes so many mistakes in his passing its insane for the main striker of RM.
 
Rezyuz said:
You should consider the amount of chances real madrid creates compared to how much he scores. He makes so many mistakes in his passing its insane for the main striker of RM.
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You should also remember that they have a player who scores 50 goals a season. And have now added another guy who should average 20 or so. There is only so many goals that can realistically be scored. Messi/etoo/henry scored around 40/30/25, as soon as Messi moved central and took his finishing to another level, no nobody else scored more than 25 goals again.

Visit a RM forum and see what they have to say in regards to his passing, you might be surprised.
 
Brwned said:
I don't really get your point here. You're saying that any time someone is criticised for bragging or showing off their pecks it's inevitably down to jealousy? You can't think of any other possible reasons? Come on. Some people just don't like vanity, you know. Vanity has been seen as a personal vice by many for centuries.
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Envy is seen as one of the seven deadly sins... I also think that vanity is clearly in the eye of the beholder and to a great extent down to cultures. If our great grandparents saw how men dress and style themselves today they would think the world had gone insane. Him showing more emotions than your average Brit, Norwegian, Scot, German, Swede and whatnot is understandable, I think. Considering all that, I think a lot of people are simply jealous.
 
How can you still not see that it has nothing to do with showing emotion? Literally not one person has criticised him for showing too much emotion. Everyone loves a good ol' stick man argument I guess.
 
RedStarUnited said:
You should also remember that they have a player who scores 50 goals a season. And have now added another guy who should average 20 or so. There is only so many goals that can realistically be scored. Messi/etoo/henry scored around 40/30/25, as soon as Messi moved central and took his finishing to another level, no nobody else scored more than 25 goals again.

Visit a RM forum and see what they have to say in regards to his passing, you might be surprised.
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Its my opinion. I find Benzema a striker who isn't the level of Real Madrid. Highly inconsistent, ruins a lot of 100% chances and pretty much always fails to perform in big matches. His passing itself isn't bad at all, its quite good for a striker. But its the dumb passes which annoy me. Its not rare to see Benzema fail a 2 meter retard proof pass in front of the goal.

And i said Ronaldo would most likely prefer Ozil behind him. And stats don't say he wouldn't.
 
northbynorthwest said:
if ronaldo had scored the winning goal, his celebration would have been justified. The fact that they were 3-1 up with 20 seconds remaining when he took the kick, makes the outcome of the penalty redundant and hence any celebration pretty worthless. What ronaldo was doing was saying look at me, i got 16 goals, when it was bale who scored the decisive goal and ramos the one who got them out of jail.

Ronaldo seemed to forget that the team came within 1 and a half minutes of winning nothing and only for ramos's goal he would have won nothing, despite his brilliant goal tally.

I am not making it personal. I am simply making an impartial view of what i have seen ronaldo do. His team mates do so much for him and he rarely thanks them publicly and ive seen it a lot. We know how good ronaldo is and he doesnt have to go and show off and demonstrate to the world his talent.

I would guess one of the reasons he celebrated like that was he knew he played poorly and that the papers would be criticizing him tomorrow. I would say he dreamed of scoring a hat trick last night and got a rude awakening as to how poorly he played, with respect to what he can do. He had to score a goal in the final, that was haunting him. I would say that had he not scored a goal and real won 3-1, he would have been bitterly disappointed. Thats the psychology of the guy.
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That's by all means way too harsh on him.

First thats one of the winning and final goal in CL cup final, most would have celebrated crazily. Secondly he was playing in home soil, same stadium Portugal lost out in Euro final 10 years ago, its surely an emotional thing for him too. Thirdly it was his 17th goal, the all time record-breaking goal too, doesn't happen often for sure. If there is someone who is worthy of that kind of celebration judging on the overall contribution throughout the tournament, that one has to be Ronaldo to be fair.

Apparently he wasn't 100% fit after rushing back from his recent troublesome injury, yet he didn't play selfishly and go for his own glory throughout the match too, most of the time he would pass the ball to his teammates in better position. Individual-wise you could say he was having a rather dull 90 mins, yet he also provided another assist to his teammates to help the team to score. If 1 goal and 1 assist in the cup final and total 17 goals scored in just 11 games played doesn't justify such celebration, I don't know what else does. A CL trophy doesn't only win by one single match mind, and Ronaldo fully deserves to have his own glory moment.

Besides, the last goal in final minutes is usually celebrating time for the winning team too. Maybe its merely a case of over-analyzing too much afterall.
 
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Relevated said:
One didn't play but he came on with full kit and shin pads to lift the cup but the other scored and took his top off. There's no comparison.
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Yeah there is. Ultimately both wanted the glory. Worth noting he had played poorly and the penalty was in the dying minutes of a game almost won and he celebrated it like a last minute winner and whipped his shirt off in a pose just ensure he got his picture everywhere.
 
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