Cristiano Ronaldo

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ricardinho said:
Hes better than anyone that ever came out of your shitty country thats for sure.
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Oh my god :lol: Are you seriously getting personal over a footballer you've never met and who doesn't even know you exist. And why? Because I'm calling him "absolutely brilliant" and one of the best to ever kick a football but also admitting that I dislike him and giving fair reasons as to why?

He's better than anything every country has produced besides Argentina and Brazil. Awful insult :lol:
 
Pink Moon said:
Oh my god :lol: Are you seriously getting personal over a footballer you've never met and who doesn't even know you exist. And why? Because I'm calling him "absolutely brilliant" and one of the best to ever kick a football but also admitting that I dislike him and giving fair reasons as to why?

He's better than anything every country has produced besides Argentina and Brazil. Awful insult :lol:
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:nono: Don't forget Northern Ireland now.
 
Talking Vulture said:
And why isn't he as good as Maradona? Give me examples.

Ronaldo will go down as one of the all time greats and people will talk about him for generations.
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Absolutely 100% correct. He'll be remembered as one of the greats.

I don't think he's as good a football player as Maradona. He's a vastly better goalscorer and ignoring any physical elements of the game I can't really see one facet where you'd say Ronaldo definitely excels. Is he a better dribbler? Better passer? He played in one of the most physical era's and in one of the most physical leagues of all time and had great success with a team like Napoli. Ronaldo's getting plaudits for beating Sweden in a playoff pretty much by himself. Maradona won a World Cup by himself.
 
Pink Moon said:
Absolutely 100% correct. He'll be remembered as one of the greats.

I don't think he's as good a football player as Maradona. He's a vastly better goalscorer and ignoring any physical elements of the game I can't really see one facet where you'd say Ronaldo definitely excels. Is he a better dribbler? Better passer? He played in one of the most physical era's and in one of the most physical leagues of all time and had great success with a team like Napoli. Ronaldo's getting plaudits for beating Sweden in a playoff pretty much by himself. Maradona won a World Cup by himself.
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Oh how time creates Legends. That's all Messi and Ronaldo need to be remembered as GOAT and Top 5 of all time respectively. People will talk about them for years until they are untouchable much like Pele and Maradona are now.
 
Ronaldo needs to get playing against some pub teams in his back garden so he can rack up over 1000 goals. Ask Pele, that's what you need to be GOAT.
 


Here's his entire performance. He was a constant threat, and he could have got many more had he been a little more composed, just incredible.

From Moutinho's 3 exquisite assists from the halfway line each time, Ronaldo took a total of 8 touches to get the ball in the net, usually receiving the ball from either a quarter of the way down the pitch or outside the box. He's an absolute weapon, and it's actually sad to think we had this sort of player at our club in one point of our history.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Why were Sweden playing a highline against him. All 3 goals were terribly defended.
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Aye - no doubt about it. Still, some very good finishes from him. I half-watched the match last night and by what I saw he could've bagged more than a hat-trick - the Swedes defended poorly indeed.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
Why were Sweden playing a highline against him. All 3 goals were terribly defended.
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I wanted to say this. His finishing was of the highest quality as were his runs, balance and control...but Sweden absolutely bent over with their terrible defensive tactics.

I didn't watch the whole game so I don't know if they had an 'attack is the best form of defensive' approach or something?
 
Pink Moon said:
Oh my god :lol: Are you seriously getting personal over a footballer you've never met and who doesn't even know you exist. And why? Because I'm calling him "absolutely brilliant" and one of the best to ever kick a football but also admitting that I dislike him and giving fair reasons as to why?

He's better than anything every country has produced besides Argentina and Brazil. Awful insult :lol:
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I'm not getting personal princess i just told a fact.

Your shit country hasnt produced one player like Ronaldo.

I'ts a fact deal with it.
 
Pexbo said:
Oh how time creates Legends. That's all Messi and Ronaldo need to be remembered as GOAT and Top 5 of all time respectively. People will talk about them for years until they are untouchable much like Pele and Maradona are now.
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Hence why Platini is talked about like Maradona and Pelé now, right?
 
ISSYNAZAR said:
I wanted to say this. His finishing was of the highest quality as were his runs, balance and control...but Sweden absolutely bent over with their terrible defensive tactics.

I didn't watch the whole game so I don't know if they had an 'attack is the best form of defensive' approach or something?
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I don't think it was a tactical thing, they just had to gamble in order to go to the world cup and they got caught out by 3 brilliant bits of play. Even at 2-1 up on the day they were still going out on aggregate so they had no choice but to go for it. On another day Ronaldo might not have gotten the passes he needed and Sweden would be at the World Cup.
 
jeff_goldblum said:
I don't think it was a tactical thing, they just had to gamble in order to go to the world cup and they got caught out by 3 brilliant bits of play. Even at 2-1 up on the day they were still going out on aggregate so they had no choice but to go for it. On another day Ronaldo might not have gotten the passes he needed and Sweden would be at the World Cup.
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It was a very open match at one point - after Zlatan's second Sweden looked capable of nicking it. But then one might reasonably argue that Portugal should've wrapped it up in the first half. And the Swedes were caught out in almost exactly the same way for all Ronaldo's goals - you simply cannot allow a player like that to be roaming so freely, waiting for a pass.

But, yes - Sweden had to go for it and with a bit of luck they may have gotten a third before Ronaldo struck again. All in all I'd say Portugal deserved to go through, though.
 
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.


He destroys la liga - it's because the defending is horrible there according to many haters. But they quickly forget he made England his bitch and now constantly makes Champions league winning caliber teams look like pub teams. HE SCORES AGAINST EVERYBODY. Deal with it haters. It's not a matter about bad defences. It's about him being too good and you can't do anything about it to stop it.
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.
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It's understandable that you're overly protective of your boy, to be fair, but it's not blasphemous to point out bad defending when it's bad defending. The defending was bad in that clip, no to ways about it. Clearly that takes nothing away from Ronaldo because as you say he scores against everyone, good defence or not. You can't jump off to extremes though, that's what gets sensible arguments dragged down into rampant fanboyism or ludicrous underrating.
 
Ronaldo didn't carry Portugal to the World Cup single-handedly, that's an hyperbole erring on the disrespect to the other (not many indeed) top Portuguese players. He carried us through the play-off with his goals (none of which was of his exclusive merit) and insane finishing ability. In the group phase he scored 4 out of 20 goals (against N. Ireland and Luxembourg) and was invisible in most of the other matches.

If the team isn't good enough overall, it won't be him alone to turn it around for us, I don't remember him ever doing that. The time he spends on the wing when we're in possession is invariably a waste, he never beats his man any more to create a goal out of nothing. In the first tie against Sweden he was dire the whole match, went to the finishing area at the end of the game, scored a goal and hit the bar a couple of minutes later.

Yesterday he had the prime conditions to succeed in the second half, with Sweden chasing a disadvantage, the space he craves so much, and pinpoint world class assists that don't happen every game either. It was more of a "Real Madrid" Ronaldo, and unanimously considered his best performance ever for the Portuguese team. It came perfect and at the right time.

We're not a one man team, and it's a shame that even the Portugues press in relentless adulation are the first to blame for this idea. We're like any other team that would be dramatically inferior if you take their best player off. To say otherwise is disrespectful to players like Meireles, Moutinho, Pepe, Alves, Coentrão, who worked their bollocks off to earn points for Portugal during the 8 qualifiers or so that Ronaldo failed to be seen at all and pouted due to receiving inferior service than what he usually gets at Real.

Not to take anything away from his sublime ability and form of course. I don't think any other player in the world, bar a Messi at the top of his form, which he isn't, could have taken those chances.
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.


He destroys la liga - it's because the defending is horrible there according to many haters. But they quickly forget he made England his bitch and now constantly makes Champions league winning caliber teams look like pub teams. HE SCORES AGAINST EVERYBODY. Deal with it haters. It's not a matter about bad defences. It's about him being too good and you can't do anything about it to stop it.
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I find it's the total opposite. People have a pop at defences when most players scare and overlook it for Ronaldo. Pages and pages of people gushing over his hat-trick, fair enough, but only one or two comments questioning why Sweden played a high line and left gaps you could drive a bus through.

Let's be honest, if it was Suarez people would be focusing a lot more on the shoddy defending.
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.


He destroys la liga - it's because the defending is horrible there according to many haters. But they quickly forget he made England his bitch and now constantly makes Champions league winning caliber teams look like pub teams. HE SCORES AGAINST EVERYBODY. Deal with it haters. It's not a matter about bad defences. It's about him being too good and you can't do anything about it to stop it.
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This is true. People say the same about Messi too. The La Liga defences are bad but these guys are so good that they would tear every league up no question.

As for last night, his first two finishes were stunning and the third goal I was more impressed with how good his first touch was. That said, I thought Sweden's defending was pretty bad due to just how high their defensive line was. Play like that against a player as quick and lethal as Ronaldo and he'll murder you as shown.
 
Only if we had more Alan Hansens on here, so we have more focus on shoddy defending.
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.


He destroys la liga - it's because the defending is horrible there according to many haters. But they quickly forget he made England his bitch and now constantly makes Champions league winning caliber teams look like pub teams. HE SCORES AGAINST EVERYBODY. Deal with it haters. It's not a matter about bad defences. It's about him being too good and you can't do anything about it to stop it.
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Theres always something to nitpick, when he scores its cause the defence was shit when he doesnt score they single that game out for future reference to use against him, they have to resort to irrelevant things like saying hes arrogant and that he dives(as if the other great players didnt or dont)or that he doesnt track back, or that he antagonizes opposite fans :lol: They are desperately scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find things to bitch about him , cause his performances and numbers dont give them much ammunition to work with so they resort to things that are irrelevant. Just petty little things from petty little persons.
 
Fergus' son said:
Only if we had more Alan Hansens on here, so we have more focus on shoddy defending.
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Sorry for bucking the trend of gushing at those stunning individual efforts. Breaking through a well organized defence before finishing from impossible angles :lol:

They defended horribly, that's why he was through on goal 4 or 5 times, he saw big gaps, he used his pace to exploit them, it's not earth shattering is it, that's why he had 2 or 3 additional clear cut chances. Sweden are not a very good side, that's just fact. If it gets in the way of gushing I apologize, I didn't realize the thread was for that only :lol:
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.


He destroys la liga - it's because the defending is horrible there according to many haters. But they quickly forget he made England his bitch and now constantly makes Champions league winning caliber teams look like pub teams. HE SCORES AGAINST EVERYBODY. Deal with it haters. It's not a matter about bad defences. It's about him being too good and you can't do anything about it to stop it.
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Do you take pride in Ronaldo playing well?
 
Ronaldo's Mum Eh? said:
It's funny that everytime Ronaldo scores it's because the defence was horrendous.


He destroys la liga - it's because the defending is horrible there according to many haters. But they quickly forget he made England his bitch and now constantly makes Champions league winning caliber teams look like pub teams. HE SCORES AGAINST EVERYBODY. Deal with it haters. It's not a matter about bad defences. It's about him being too good and you can't do anything about it to stop it.
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:lol: My god... You do understand you and Cristiano are different people, yes?
 
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