We'd better not spend all summer fecking around with this childishness instead of signing players we actually need.
"Florentino comes out in defense of Cristiano". "It is not permissible to treat Cristiano as a delinquent"
If Ronaldo doesn't join United after all of this, he'll likely lose the respect of millions of fans around the globe. I don't think he can afford not to move at this point.
I just logged onto the caf and at the same time there wa an ad on TV for sixpad with CR7 in it.
It's a feckin' omen, I tell you.
Yeah, Right. Perhaps an omen for this –
Yeah, Right. Perhaps an omen for this –
There is nothing in it for us, our name is thrown into the mix because it's an easy story and it inevitably gets a lot of clicks. Ronaldo's problem are political and financial, he is sad and disappointed in the club for not backing him and sure enough next week you have the club president organizing an interview backing him to the hilt and massaging his ego with that Di Stefano quote. Next up is a pay rise and I expect once the Confederation Cup is done, they'll get that sorted as well.
I just hope this drama is finished quickly so we can wrap up the Morata deal.
Sounds like it. And the whole thing about not reaching out to talk to him because he doesn't want to disrupt the Portuguese team? When has Perez ever given a feck about disrupting other teams? He's an arsehole!Is it just me that reads that as Perez admitting he hasn't a clue what's going on?
I'm actually shocked that this story has rumbled on for a week and the president of Madrid hasn't reached out to him. Not exactly addressing the lack of support there Florentino...
Perez is free to write him a check out of his own pocket if he wants. Not with club money, and not with public money...and write him a cheque for €15m
No it's not. He's under accusation from Hacienda(Spanish Treasury) of committing tax fraud for nearly €15MHe hasn't behaved anyway. Everything so far has been speculation.
I think we should just buy Morata, enjoy his peak years, and compete with Madrid for MBappe.
Forget Mbappe and get Dembele.
Agreed, demeble is the player we really should be targeting... Morata and Dembele would sort out our attack for a very long time.
Doesn't dembele dream of a particular team in Spain too?
"When Ronaldo jumps, he generates 5G of G-force on take-off - this is five times the power of a cheetah in full flight. This enables him to reach heights of 44cm in the air from a standing start and 78cm with a run-up - 7cm more than the average NBA player."
Wow, is this true??
It don't matter. After 6 years we can sell him and buy Ronaldo back
He's a little child who wants to quit after something happened he doesnt like. Once the mom dries his tears, all will be good againHe never said he wanted to leave before. This time is different.
The media jumps on any hot topic that sells. We don't hear much about other transfers because everyone knows United fans just want to hear about Ronaldo the most right now. Just look at how this thread exploded in 3 days.Does feel as if our transfer activity is on pause. Haven't heard any rumours from us in a while outside of this Ronaldo situation.
He's a little child who wants to quit after something happened he doesnt like. Once the mom dries his tears, all will be good again
As @carvajal said, most people don't know the whole situation with hacienda. All they know, from the outside looking in, is that he's accused of defrauding Hacienda for almost €15M.
Woodward doesn't court players without the manager's consent. Jose will know the situationThis "saga" is immensely annoying. Everyone with a modicum of sense knows that the move is a non-starter. Worse still, we've been in a very similar place before. For those saying he's never before said he wants to leave, ermmm, point me towards any statement to this effect even this time. He's remained silent and even avoided the post-match presser and MoM presentation. He's always done this. Allowed the press to do the talking before coming out and saying he's delighted being with Real, United are his past and the rumours are all "press talk".
On our part, I just hope we're pushing on with our transfer business. I'd be amazed if Ed let this cloud his judgment, but one can never be too careful. We should push to land Morata, Perisic (yes, I know) and a CM (Fabinho?) before we end up having to press the panic button in late July...
The media jumps on any hot topic that sells. We don't hear much about other transfers because everyone knows United fans just want to hear about Ronaldo the most right now. Just look at how this thread exploded in 3 days.
I just don't like his overall antics, also now. People believe he alone would shoot us to title but forget that RM is by far the strongest team out thereThis. I know as Utd fans we're ecstatic with the prospect of football's biggest star coming back to us, but I confess I'm bit disgusted by his attitude. I forgive his crap on the field, but I abhor tax evaders. It's always the middle class that ends up paying the taxes that build roads and hospitals, while the rich with their lawyers always find creative loopholes to evade them.
Says who?That's true but we were 48 hours from concluding Morata over a week ago
The clearest I've seen of that was mid/late last week when his agent revealed we do have an offer for him and then of his agent's meeting with Real to discuss it. Hard to say it would take 48 hours or how ever long for both clubs to work out a deal. The timeframe is likely pure media speculation.That's true but we were 48 hours from concluding Morata over a week ago
Umm... That's not exactly how it works. The agent would be worthless if he didn't look out for each client's interests in isolation. If Ronaldo felt that Mendes was compromising his own position / negotiations even a bit, he'd sack him. And if Jose knew the truth and United backed off, Real would hold the whip hand. A bit like lawyers and the confidentiality clauses. So, if Mendes feels it's in his best interests to keep Jose in the dark for now, he'll do so. Remember, he doesn't need to lie; just avoid a direct answer. Think it over. The only way for Mendes to tell Jose the truth and still manage the charade with Real would be for Jose to either willingly lie to Ed and get him to continue to "play the game" or for Ed to be in on the game and still put up a front that convinces Real that it's all for real. Neither is even remotely plausible given what is at stake for all parties. Therefore, Mendes will avoid Jose knowing...It's still annoying me a bit how many people are forgetting about Jorge Mendes
You see articles - an from decent journalists - saying things like "United are approaching the Ronaldo deal with caution"
Why would they need to? If it's a scam, then it's a scam that would be masterminded by Mourinho's own agent! Mourinho could literally text him and ask if it's for real. It would take 5 minutes tops for United to find out
Umm... That's not exactly how it works. The agent would be worthless if he didn't look out for each client's interests in isolation. If Ronaldo felt that Mendes was compromising his own position / negotiations even a bit, he'd sack him. And if Jose knew the truth and United backed off, Real would hold the whip hand. A bit like lawyers and the confidentiality clauses. So, if Mendes feels it's in his best interests to keep Jose in the dark for now, he'll do so. Remember, he doesn't need to lie; just avoid a direct answer. Think it over. The only way for Mendes to tell Jose the truth and still manage the charade with Real would be for Jose to either willingly lie to Ed and get him to continue to "play the game" or for Ed to be in on the game and still put up a front that convinces Real that it's all for real. Neither is even remotely plausible given what is at stake for all parties. Therefore, Mendes will avoid Jose knowing...
You could of course, and I do, wonder about the whole conflict of interest angle, but the game seems to overlook that with ease. Mendes and Raiola manage a host of players and managers. You have to wonder how its conceivable that they ethically handle all cases and totally avoid a selfish motive to influence actions...or play favourites at times.
The media jumps on any hot topic that sells. We don't hear much about other transfers because everyone knows United fans just want to hear about Ronaldo the most right now. Just look at how this thread exploded in 3 days.
He doesn't need to "string him along". Just says, for example, "Yeah, he's really peeved and annoyed and is genuinely looking for a move if this isn't sorted".I agree with @LawCharltonBest on this one.
There is no way that Mendes would string Jose along, risking making him / us look foolish, so we either know it's all bollocks, or we know there is a chance to sign him.
Hmm I just can't see it.Umm... That's not exactly how it works. The agent would be worthless if he didn't look out for each client's interests in isolation. If Ronaldo felt that Mendes was compromising his own position / negotiations even a bit, he'd sack him. And if Jose knew the truth and United backed off, Real would hold the whip hand. A bit like lawyers and the confidentiality clauses. So, if Mendes feels it's in his best interests to keep Jose in the dark for now, he'll do so. Remember, he doesn't need to lie; just avoid a direct answer. Think it over. The only way for Mendes to tell Jose the truth and still manage the charade with Real would be for Jose to either willingly lie to Ed and get him to continue to "play the game" or for Ed to be in on the game and still put up a front that convinces Real that it's all for real. Neither is even remotely plausible given what is at stake for all parties. Therefore, Mendes will avoid Jose knowing...
You could of course, and I do, wonder about the whole conflict of interest angle, but the game seems to overlook that with ease. Mendes and Raiola manage a host of players and managers. You have to wonder how its conceivable that they ethically handle all cases and totally avoid a selfish motive to influence actions...or play favourites at times.