So has this been posted yet? 
Muppets on Twitter going crazy too.
Muppets on Twitter going crazy too.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Transfer Speculation
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Don't do this to yourselves because we have all seen this story too many times, he gets sad and upset. Media go crazy linking him to PSG, United and MLS. Couple of weeks later he gets a fat pay rise from Madrid and is 'happy to retire at Real'. This time it'll be no different, he wants Real to protect him like Barcelona did with Messi and Neymar and Real know how important he is to them so they'll end up paying what is required to keep him happy.
Also, only club which can afford him is PSG, they need to make a superstar signing and have the resources to pay a world record fee, his outrageous wages and whatever money he owes to tax authorities. I don't see United getting involved in this mess.
Also, only club which can afford him is PSG, they need to make a superstar signing and have the resources to pay a world record fee, his outrageous wages and whatever money he owes to tax authorities. I don't see United getting involved in this mess.
Unlikely, but it doesn't seem that far-fetched he might fancy a new (or repeat) challenge at this point.
They are going to have to break his release clause if he really wants to go, otherwise he's staying put.
United are bigger and still better than psg though, and it is not beyond our reach at all.
But yeah I expect him to stay.
Release clause is impossible, but Madrid have said they won't hold the player against his wishes.
Yes that's why Madrid would need to waive the release clause (which was a joke anyway) to sell him at a reasonable fee if he truly wants to leave.
So has this been posted yet?
Muppets on Twitter going crazy too.
Murders and executions?
Release clause is irrelevant.
Only his actual desires are important.
Madrid will not stop him leaving if he wants. Their entire model is based on signing top players. They won't keep them against their will.
Whether he really wants to leave is the only question in this.
Only his actual desires are important.
Madrid will not stop him leaving if he wants. Their entire model is based on signing top players. They won't keep them against their will.
Whether he really wants to leave is the only question in this.
He has won everything at Real.
But he's also won everything at United.
If he wanted to leave, I'm not sure what would push him towards a club.
Do you want him Raoul?
Edit someone mentioned it'd probably stop us getting any other players from real in this window. I think that could be the case
Yeah of course. If we can get him for below £100m then I'm all in. He still has about 2-3 years at the Ronaldo/Messi level left in his tank which would make that sort of fee pay off several times over.
I'm kinda worried he won't have?
But pogba and Ronaldo in the same team does sound fairly crazy. Muppetastic...
you're a reasonable poster and that's a fair point. I said no at the start because I stopped liking him after he left more or less. He's class like but I dunno.... the Ronaldo show all over again. I promised myself I wouldn't get sucked into any transfer stuff this summer but that would get the juices flowing at least : )
I have been fully suckered into this... as usual.
The only thing I will say is that if this is at all plausible, Lord Woody the Great will make it happen.
All hail King Woody!
The only thing I will say is that if this is at all plausible, Lord Woody the Great will make it happen.
All hail King Woody!
As long as it's not the United job, sure why not?
We can also afford Ronaldo, not just PSG.
Might have been asked before in this explosive 34 page thread, but has anyone wondered whether mourinho and Ronaldo would work? Correct me if I'm wrong but Ronaldo didn't enjoy working under him and I wonder if that's a potential factor, if this idea of a transfer were to be entertained.
Yeah most of us have thought about it. Personally I don't think Mourinho would want him at this club if he's legitimately thinking of building long term here.
Will be refreshing this thread for the rest of the summer. 100% he isnt coming but this is gon be gud regardless, muppets can dream. No longer care about Morata or any of our signings.
He wants to build long term, but he needs short term success, and it must happen exactly next season.
I love me some muppet fever in the summer.
I'm assuming it would be a minimum of 120 million for Real Madrid to sell.
We should be paying upwards of that. I wouldn't mind changing our whole transfer strategy just for him. He's worth it.
We should be paying upwards of that. I wouldn't mind changing our whole transfer strategy just for him. He's worth it.
Somebody ask for me?
Is it true Ronaldo and Jose don't get along??
Oh god, don't do this to yourselves guys, we have been here too many times before.
I'd love him back, i'd pay £100mil in a heart beat, but its just not going to happen.
I'd love him back, i'd pay £100mil in a heart beat, but its just not going to happen.
I want to absolutely refuse to get drawn in to Ronaldo being a United player again. However, when you see the numbers he is putting up at Madrid, And you put this alongside what Zlatan did for us last year aged 35, it is not difficult to see that he could be an immense signing, however much he would cost.
Merchandising would skyrocket for the CR7 brand and that alone would probably offset a fair chunk of what would be a ridiculous transfer fee for a player his age.
We are crying out for a 20+ a season forward and he would guarantee you that for at least the next 3 seasons and maybe more. Maybe, like Giggs, his fitness levels could keep him playing at the top level for 5 or more years.
It would also push the Manchester United brand up a level in terms of sponsorship deals.
So all things considered, if he really wants to come back, I would be more than happy with this. The transfer fee it would take is somewhat irrelevant in today's market.
Do I expect it to happen? Simple answer, No.
Merchandising would skyrocket for the CR7 brand and that alone would probably offset a fair chunk of what would be a ridiculous transfer fee for a player his age.
We are crying out for a 20+ a season forward and he would guarantee you that for at least the next 3 seasons and maybe more. Maybe, like Giggs, his fitness levels could keep him playing at the top level for 5 or more years.
It would also push the Manchester United brand up a level in terms of sponsorship deals.
So all things considered, if he really wants to come back, I would be more than happy with this. The transfer fee it would take is somewhat irrelevant in today's market.
Do I expect it to happen? Simple answer, No.
At a minimum, RM will want to sell Ronaldo at the price of Mbappe. Its about PR and showing that they got a great deal. So £120M at least.
For purely muppet reasons, how would we line up with him in the side? Presumably bought instead of Morata and limiting us to just 4 signings (with the others fairly cheap ones).
Not at Madrid no and that's his problem. It's exactly what he had here and would have again if he came back. Still don't expect it to happen though.
I don't see it happening. I reckon Mou wouldn't want him because of their earlier beef.
Which is a shame because he'd certainly lift us back to the top. I think he has at least 2-3 years left at the highest level.
Which is a shame because he'd certainly lift us back to the top. I think he has at least 2-3 years left at the highest level.
I think this is a tricky one, if he does leave.
Given
1. "Almost achieved everything" @ RM
2. "Not that happy" with RM's fans booing him
3. "Irreversible decision"
I think the chance of him leaving is at least more than 50%, say 60%. I think now its all down to RM to convince him/solve the tax issue.
His age factor and performance are two contradictory factors. Its hard to see any club paying €200m for him. With Griezmann priced @ €100m, €150m for Ronaldo seems about right. Altho RM would like it more, I think that money is acceptable for RM, especially that amount is roughly close to Mbappe's price.
And given these two factors, paying that massive amount of money for 2-4 years "peak" Ronaldo seems risky. That said, its not impossible. (super rich Chinese clubs and MLS aside, I m talking about European clubs)
His release clause is impossible, reportedly @ €1 billion. If he really wants to leave, no way RM could keep him.
If this is happening, MU and PSG seems the most likely clubs to get him. Among these two, MU is the most likely one. So the question is do we want him, and are we willing to pay that amount, say €150m for 2-4 years.
If we get him, our chance of getting CL trophy is greatly increased, it is achievable, compared to signing Morata. That is "Mourinho style", serial trophy winner. We have solid Defense (and WC keeper), above average Midfield (if Pogba Herrera both live up to expectation), very weak Attack. Without Griezmann, that's what we need, and the best we can get on the market. He would easily fit into our system in whatever situation, even if you strongly argue we cant build the team around him. So I wouldn't say that's impossible.
(Those who argue Mourinho and Ronaldo don get along well. Come on, they are both professional, not kids. This is a non-issue)
Money wise, if we ditch Morata, that's not impossible.
All in all, I would say the chance of us signing him is at least more than 50%.
Given
1. "Almost achieved everything" @ RM
2. "Not that happy" with RM's fans booing him
3. "Irreversible decision"
I think the chance of him leaving is at least more than 50%, say 60%. I think now its all down to RM to convince him/solve the tax issue.
His age factor and performance are two contradictory factors. Its hard to see any club paying €200m for him. With Griezmann priced @ €100m, €150m for Ronaldo seems about right. Altho RM would like it more, I think that money is acceptable for RM, especially that amount is roughly close to Mbappe's price.
And given these two factors, paying that massive amount of money for 2-4 years "peak" Ronaldo seems risky. That said, its not impossible. (super rich Chinese clubs and MLS aside, I m talking about European clubs)
His release clause is impossible, reportedly @ €1 billion. If he really wants to leave, no way RM could keep him.
If this is happening, MU and PSG seems the most likely clubs to get him. Among these two, MU is the most likely one. So the question is do we want him, and are we willing to pay that amount, say €150m for 2-4 years.
If we get him, our chance of getting CL trophy is greatly increased, it is achievable, compared to signing Morata. That is "Mourinho style", serial trophy winner. We have solid Defense (and WC keeper), above average Midfield (if Pogba Herrera both live up to expectation), very weak Attack. Without Griezmann, that's what we need, and the best we can get on the market. He would easily fit into our system in whatever situation, even if you strongly argue we cant build the team around him. So I wouldn't say that's impossible.
(Those who argue Mourinho and Ronaldo don get along well. Come on, they are both professional, not kids. This is a non-issue)
Money wise, if we ditch Morata, that's not impossible.
All in all, I would say the chance of us signing him is at least more than 50%.
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There has been rumours that their relationship is strained. It's not hard to imagine two proud egotistical men not getting along together at a circus like Madrid. Although there hasn't been any public bust up or spats between them, there was allegedly one instance where Ronaldo was absolutely furious with Jose suggesting to throw out the CL semi tie vs Barca at Nou camp so that they can blaim officials and create a conspiracy.
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5103275
That's actually the most genius way of controlling a bunch of egotistical, treacherous, bastards I've ever seen.
Or just Jose being massively petty Jose.
I could believe either ha ha!
You are going bipolar
Anyone else hear Julien Laurens speaking to the BBC yesterday on this? He made a really good point about the way Zidane managed Ronaldo's games excellently last season, particularly towards its end, when Ronaldo hit his incredible run of form. Given how Mourinho overplayed an ageing Zlatan last season, and the manner in which his season/potentially his career petered out arguably because of it, if (it won't) Ronaldo did return, Mourinho could not play him in the same way he played Zlatan last season. But the problem would then be the fact that we aren't certain of winning games in any of the competitions we enter anymore, even if Ronaldo played for us. So, you'd think he'd have to play as much as possible. Also, as he admitted himself, Mourinho doesn't really get the "needing to be rested" attitude, he expects all his players to be warriors committed to the cause and ready to be called upon at all times.
I don't know, I'd love for this to happen, but I think it would only work if our squad was closer to the finished article. If we weren't also desperately on the hunt for a holding midfielder and a striker, even more depth on the wings, then I'd say we should throw everything at this even though it's probably BS. Right now, our priorities have to be elsewhere. Greater good, etc.
I don't know, I'd love for this to happen, but I think it would only work if our squad was closer to the finished article. If we weren't also desperately on the hunt for a holding midfielder and a striker, even more depth on the wings, then I'd say we should throw everything at this even though it's probably BS. Right now, our priorities have to be elsewhere. Greater good, etc.
Yes. It was true. Both of them have massive egos. Mourinho felt that Ronaldo wasn't capable of tactical discipline and Ronaldo felt that Mourinho's strategies were too constrained for him. There were even instances when Mourinho started Ronaldo on the bench. One such occasion was against Barcelona in 2013 and Real won that match against Barcelona. As a player, Ronaldo's ego pushes him towards better performance. But as a manager, Mourinho's ego is actually detrimental and I feel he's less egoistic now than he was at Real Madrid. Mourinho has improved a lot as a manager over his career. He was an astute tactician when he started his career, but a mediocre manager. That's one of the reasons for his short-lived careers at the clubs – the arrogance that the success brings into the dressing room is unharness-able. He never had to deal with superstars or massive-egos in his career until he reached Real Madrid. A manager's mettle at man-management is proven only when he gets to manage arrogance. Mourinho somehow got away with his failed first-season at Madrid. There were many things that happened in the background that signaled his weaknesses as a manager – his attempts at gaining the control of the dressing room by curbing the influence of senior players (like Casillas) was a hint. Anyway, after his embarrassing final season at Chelsea, he seemed to have learnt many lessons in management. I feel he is on the right path at United and if Ronaldo comes back to OT, Mourinho should take it positively and use it to get better at management. SAF became such a great at man-management only by learning how to harness that arrogance. The special treatment he gave to Cantona, his ruthless attitude towards Beckham and the way he helped Ronaldo build his ambition are some of the contrasting examples of his finesse at man-management.
In before Arsene puts in a paltry bid to say Arsenal tried to sign Ronaldo
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