And this has what to do with Hazard exactly? He can only play the teams put in front of him.
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And this has what to do with Hazard exactly? He can only play the teams put in front of him.
Nah. He’s done wonderfully well to be playing like he is at 33, but he’ll decline sharply in the next year or two. Age inevitably takes its toll.
That's been a recurring prediction for last 3 years . Every year Ronaldo is supposed to fade away and decline but he doesn't . He still keeps producing the goals and assists . The man is a machine and he will still be in GOAT territory for atleast this season and the next. To be honest even in a decline season he will probably score 25-30 goals . Eventually age will catch up but I feel he will still leave retire at a high whenever that time comes .
People have been saying the same thing for 5 years, especially with the insane amount of games he's played throughout the years but sports science has evolved and he takes care of himself so I don't know... Eventually it will happen, time is undefeated but injuries aside, I still expect to see him at this level in the Euros in 2020. He's going to be very motivated to retain that title.
Ibra at 36 was still incredible and if not for that injury, he could have kept going for a while longer so hopefully Ronaldo has the same trajectory without the injury.
@Daysleeper Don't embarass yourself with Bale. Look at the numbers ffs.
2017/2018: CR: 15 goals Bale:3
2016/17: CR: 12 goals Bale: 2
2015/16: CR: 16 goals: Bale:0
2014/15: CR:10 goals Bale:2
2013/14: CR: 17 goals Bale:6
Total sum of 5 seasons: CR: 70 goals Bale: 13
Jesus don't embarass yourself if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing against Bale, but at least try to use Messi or Neymar. Last stages or not.
2017/2018: CR: 15 goals Bale:3
2016/17: CR: 12 goals Bale: 2
2015/16: CR: 16 goals: Bale:0
2014/15: CR:10 goals Bale:2
2013/14: CR: 17 goals Bale:6
Total sum of 5 seasons: CR: 70 goals Bale: 13
Jesus don't embarass yourself if you want to be taken seriously. Nothing against Bale, but at least try to use Messi or Neymar. Last stages or not.
Don’t be an idiot I was talking about the finals where Bale has been better on average than CR. If you read my post you’d see that.
Spot on. PSG are constructed quite poorly too. I was hoping for a little more from Neymar.
It’s just face palm moment when someone seriously compares hazard to Ronaldo.
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First of all go call idiot to another person. Second your analogy is so ridiculous that would be the same thing as me saying Gotze is better than Messi because he scored the winning goal in the WC Final. Your problem is you are so blinded by hatred that you dismiss rational facts and instead you turn them into preposterous blatant half truths like saying someone who has been leading the competition suddenly hasn't nothing to do with that. Instead Bale was the most important.
He did well to jump ship at the time he did. The cracks were there for RM last season especially in the defence and the CL papered over the cracks. Without his goals they would be even weaker so he did a good move.
First of all go call idiot to another person. Second your analogy is so ridiculous that would be the same thing as me saying Gotze is better than Messi because he scored the winning goal in the WC Final. Your problem is you are so blinded by hatred that you dismiss rational facts and instead you turn them into preposterous blatant half truths like saying someone who has been leading the competition suddenly hasn't nothing to do with that. Instead Bale was the most important.
Calm down. The response was in regards to someone else who had said Bale was better in the finals. and it is absolutely true. Inarguably true.
Ronaldo has been great on CL’s overall in recent years never said otherwise, just that when it comes to the finals Bale has often outshined him. Bale has had some huge CL final moments in recent years. That’s true.
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Yeah, other than the tiny problem that it wasn’t what he said in the slightest and that it wasn’t even being argued... it’s absolutely true.
Are the final stages of tournaments just the final now? I guess Eder was more important than Ronaldo and Eusebio in the final stages of tournaments for Portugal then.
It wasn’t only a lie, it was a comment reeking of bitterness.
@Kentonio absolutely, and Hazard has a massive impact for you. Great player, best in the Premier League.
The only point I was arguing is the idea that Hazard has more of an impact for his teams than Ronaldo, considering how it went for United (especially in Europe) since he left and how Madrid have started the season, added to his form at Juve... well that's just tripe.
If you see my post earlier someone said it was final stages and not final stage which I acknowledged. Look it up.
In regards to only the finals it has always been Bale no question
Yeah probably right. Although Hazard has been carrying us for years (at least until recently).
Fair enough, not sure why that matters at all but it is true.
To be honest I had misread someone else’s post. I honestly thought they said final stage and when someone asked for white font in regards to the Bale comparison I was discussing it in regards to finals only. If we are talking final stages as in the latter parts of the tournament and not just the final then yes, Ronaldo is comfortably ahead of Bale on that one.
@Daysleeper Fair enough. I always present facts. The real ones. Not worth rebating what doesn't even is real.
Cheers, no hard feelings
I respect your opinion but I mean, on pure statistics and performance, CR7 is more consistent and delivers every single time. Hazard when he shows up, he's GOAT but again, he's inconsistent so...
He didn't jump ship per say though.
He left, because Perez didn't keep his promise and increase his wages.
If he did, Ronaldo would still be a Real player.
I respect your opinion but I mean, on pure statistics and performance, CR7 is more consistent and delivers every single time. Hazard when he shows up, he's GOAT but again, he's inconsistent so...
We are saying the same thing
"Going from a league like La Liga to Serie A after 9 years is not easy, we are talking about the third big league I play in and it's different from the other two, I have to adapt to my teammates, the tactical and physical aspects, how they position themselves, I have never worked as much as here, because adapting is not easy, but it is very motivating: with my experience and my skills I will do everything to help Juve get as successful as possible. I like myself in this environment and this is important: at Real Madrid the connections were automatic, between me and Marcelo or between me and Modric, for example, here I know we are getting there, we are learning to appreciate each other. At Juve I feel good, I'm appreciated, I realize that from my teammates interviews: anyone who speaks of me does it as someone normal, a great player who joined the group without problem, not like a star. I believe it's important that they feel this way, because it shows that the group is united. We are on the same wavelength and we have the same motivations. I have a great relationship with Allegri. He is competent and also very funny and at the same time very professional, like the whole club. I insist on this because I am so too and this environment totally corresponds to my being. We think and go in the same direction. Now we have to win, that's why I'm here"
I don't know about that.
Think Serie A may now be 3rd in terms of quality.
That’s obviously not what he meant by that - serie A is the third big league he has played in, after PL with United and la Liga with Real.
3rd in chronological order for him, not quality. Or are people arguing serie A is not a big league?
3rd in chronological order for him, not quality. Or are people arguing serie A is not a big league?
Which league do you think is better or bigger? Bundesliga?
I'd call the 3rd spot between Italy and Germany i dont see any of them being better than the other one. They're both pretty meh because of the 1 team dominance and the monopoly those 2 teams have in their respected leagues.
CL and Europa is also meh, it's dominated by 1 league in the last 5-6 years, maybe more than that. 7 winners from La Liga in last 10 years in CL and 5 winners from La Liga in last 5 years in Europa.
Also this season, 3 Italian teams have won against 3 PL team. Serie A has improved a lot in last few years.
Exactly. He didn't rate the leagues based on how good or bad it is, he is talking about his career and how many big leagues he has played in.
Well, so then you don't necessarily disagree with the fact that it is the 3rd best league then? I'd also argue that it is ahead of the Bundesliga due to Juventus' achievements in the CL. Inter have also fared fairly well.
So has BVB
Think in general both leagues are quite similar. Both have one stand out team with Juve/Bayern and one runner up who utilizes it's economic potential extremely well and punches above its actual weight (Napoli/Dortmund) through very good scouting and management. Although I'd generally rate Bayern ahead of Juve despite their more recent CL success there are many arguments for why Italy should currently be rated ahead of Germany, primarily the UEFA 5 year ranking. I think that this can change rapidly however.
Still, Serie A has many sleeping giants in contrast to the Bundesliga. Currently, the teams 3-5 are more or less lite versions of the BVB while in the Serie A these are rather lite versions of Juve if that makes sense. Much bigger names but managed less professionally.
They have, so that leaves an argument of Serie A being the third best league an OK option, alongside Bundesliga. Personally, I'd put Serie A slightly ahead, but that's just me.
I think this makes sense - personally, I'd put Juventus ahead of Bayern, but I can see an argument for Bayern as well. Good, sensible and not too lengthy post. Napoli are doing very well, and Inter have done quite well. Then there is Milan that I think will gain some momentum. I can actually envisage Serie A regaining some of their glory with the spotlight of Ronaldo. There is reason to believe that they will get more viewers because of it.
Yep, top class goal.
1-0 Ronaldo *whimpers*
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