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Wow....
Failed at Juve
Holding back Juve
all these while scoring 32 fecking goals in fecking serie A
good lord some of you are so unbelievable
He was there to win them the CL really and they've declined significantly whilst he's there instead.
Thats a very good point sir.Everyone was bought to win something, just because they don't win something doesn't mean they failed.
So Bruno is a failure at united?
Everyone was bought to win something, just because they don't win something doesn't mean they failed.
So Bruno is a failure at united?
How could they decline due to a player scoring 32 goals.He was there to win them the CL really and they've declined significantly whilst he's there instead.
Lost a yard of pace but, like Cavani has proven, you can’t beat intelligent movement and positioning.Is there anyone who's watched Juventus regulary who knows what his overall game like these days?
Is there anyone who's watched Juventus regulary who knows what his overall game like these days?
You expect a rookie manager like Pirlo to win a Champions League?He was there to win them the CL really and they've declined significantly whilst he's there instead.
You expect a rookie manager like Pirlo to win a Champions League?
Their declined due to bad coaching and man management, how could you blame Ronaldo for Dybala's and Morata's poor performance entire season?
I watched their lost to a bottom 3 Benevento last month, and I can assure you our Moyes was much better than Pirlo (as manager).
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Juventus have spent 550m odd in those seasons. Its not a case of spending too much on Ronaldo, its the flops around him.He's been there for 3 seasons no? They were a better side before he joined. Legit CL contenders. Now they aren't close. They spent too much on Ronaldo in the false estimation that he could elevate them to a new level.
Yeah.. for 3 different managers. Juve was a CL contender during Allegri's era and they sacked him for no reason. It's required more than a Ronaldo and a Messi to win the Champions League.He's been there for 3 seasons no? They were a better side before he joined. Legit CL contenders. Now they aren't close. They spent too much on Ronaldo in the false estimation that he could elevate them to a new level.
Well I'm not really going to blame Ronaldo for Juventus regressing because it's a team game, but Brunu turned us around and we have performed better as a team before we got him. Juventus has regressed with Ronaldo there, but that doesn't mean Ronaldo is to blame.
Juve are a mess. I'm not sure what they were thinking when they let Allegri walk and replaced him with Sarri then Pirlo.He was there to win them the CL really and they've declined significantly whilst he's there instead.
Bruno turned us around?
Bruno steer us back to the level we should be playing at. That's because we're so abysmal before him. Ronaldo went there and do his job. But somehow he's the one to blame for everything.
I swear united fans have some beefs with ronnie the boy could never do right. Even banging 32 goals at the age of 37 some of you cant even give him his due credit.
What about Sarri and Allegri? He played under both of them and each season they failed spectacularly in the UCL (Ajax, Lyon and Porto)You expect a rookie manager like Pirlo to win a Champions League?
Their declined due to bad coaching and man management, how could you blame Ronaldo for Dybala's and Morata's poor performance entire season?
I watched their lost to a bottom 3 Benevento last month, and I can assure you our Moyes was much better than Pirlo (as manager).
What about Sarri and Allegri? He played under both of them and each season they failed spectacularly in the UCL (Ajax, Lyon and Porto)
His transfer is considered a failure because they went all in with him to the point they were financially fecking themselves
Yes, Messi is a failure for barca, except for the 4 UCL and 10 league titles he has already delivered.Barcelona haven't won the CL in 6 years, almost bankrupting themselves paying Messi's high wages. He must also be a failure for a large part of his career too then I guess.
Well if Messi is allowed to rest on his laurels, why aren't Ronaldo?Yes, Messi is a failure for barca, except for the 4 UCL and 10 league titles he has already delivered.
Messi is resting on his laurels? Tell us more.Well if Messi is allowed to rest on his laurels, why aren't Ronaldo?
Messi is resting on his laurels? Tell us more.
Best way to put itI agree, the project has failed but not the player. To lay blame on an aging forward (who has scored 97 goals in just 120 appearances) at the end of his career is wide of the mark, if not rather harsh. Those are fantastic numbers and I'd lay the blame on the board for sacking Allegri. Juve looked most likely to win the CL under him and Juve hasn't really recovered since his departure.
Why do you think Juventus signed him? Why buy one of the best players ever? For showing off? They clearly thought they might have a chance at winning the UCL. No idea why you're bringing Messi into the conversation he's literally a god in Barcelona for what he did for the club.My point was the absurdity in saying that Ronaldo is a failure because he hasn't won the CL at Juventus. Messi hasn't won the CL since 2015, so by the same logic his later years must also be a failiure, and Barcelona should have gotten rid of him years ago.
I would agree that Ronaldo hasn't been a success at Juventus, but there is a lot of room between success and failure.
No one even know Bruno when United bought him, and his contributions have been immense. No on expected him for us to win anything, but he has helped us make somewhat competitive.
Wow....
Failed at Juve
Holding back Juve
all these while scoring 32 fecking goals in fecking serie A
good lord some of you are so unbelievable