Yeah. Always baffles me, how fans eat up those little sums those guys donate and forget about the millions they stole, from the people of their countries.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Real confirm deal
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I see where you're coming from, but it's still a bit cynic in my opinion. They could easily pocket the whole money, without giving "back" some multiple millions. So not saying the general picture needs to be ignored, just taking into account that they could be doing worse.
Yeah, how altruistic of them to donate money that shouldn’t be theirs to begin with.
Come back to me when you do something similar
Blood and bone marrow aren’t taxed
He didn't even 'evade' tax. The Spanish government fancied some extra tax money and went after Spanish footballers using a legal grey area regarding image rights. Then when the footballers paid up what the government demanded, they went on to demand even more using more grey areas.
What a bizarre post.
I guess wounds from continous torture which Ronaldo has inflicted on Bayern are still fresh
Well financial wise but for a football club, it is still closely related to the sports results.
Only a club like Manchester United would be able to pull a good financial year without a crazy sports year.
Clubs like Juventus or Bayern Munchen all have strong financials because they have an hegemonic domination locally.
I'm an Inter fan. Please, take Ronaldo!
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I won’t believe it until Ronaldo is holding a Juventus Ronaldo jersey and saying hes excited for a new challenge.
I don't quite understand you response to the first reason?
If Real are more than happy to get 100 for CR7 and Juve are happy to pay it, what benefits Real selling CR7 to United for the same price?
Juve have more potential that who to make an upset? Like you say, Juve has just 'potential'. They're not established like a well oiled machine like United. It's easier to sell to Juve in this sense than it would be to United.
If United were the only club CR7 wante to go to, just like Real were the only club he wanted to leave from United, we'd still would have got fleeced in price...just like we did to Real at the time, even though Real were the only club CR7 wanted to go to.
Getting along and fine means one thing when you maybe speak with each other twice a year. It's quite another when you're working together, every day. Too much ego and pride there, and Mourinho...especially on the post madrid years, he seems dead set on making sure he's the star of the show...
This still seems so bizarre.
If a month ago, I was to guess which club Ronaldo would be at next season, Juventus probably would have been 10th at least.
But it could end up being a very good move for both. Slightly surprised Woodward hasn't been trying to sign him though.
Juve have made 2 CL finals recently while we are playing Europa football. They were also on the verge of knocking out Real last seasons CL but for a Ronaldo penalty. Its reasonable to imagine that Ronaldo on the Juve team would swap the result. Meanwhile United getting outplayed by Sevilla and finishing 20 points behind our city rivals. I don't know if by Man Utd, you mistook us for Bayern Munich because it couldn't have been that same club in Manchester over the past 5 seasons..........
Well, here in italy we're hearing about this gentleman's agreement from january to sell him for 100 mil was only valid for certain destinations, excluding Spain, England and PSG
So, has anyone suggested that we will pay for this in shirt sales, or that Adidas will pay for it, yet?
Really? I’d go 4th after Madrid, United, and PSG. I don’t think it’s that surprising.
So this really happening then? I tend to ignore most of the Ronaldo speculation, because it always ends in him extending at Real.
Would be awesome to see if he can do it on a rainy night in Milan.
Would be awesome to see if he can do it on a rainy night in Milan.
If you took the time out to see in what context I wrote this, you may not have been clearly off the mark! I was referring to our marketing team and our global appeal!
The same club that can top every financial metric even without being successful enough on the field compared to its prestige because the machine is well setup and designed that way. No other club in the world has this kind of possibilities as soon as their sports results drop. So yes, it's the same Manchester United...
All that could happen even if we signed him.
Your marketing and global appeal are already at a level where cristiano ronaldo would have little impact on it
They were also on the verge of losing the title to Napoli and going out to Spurs before they even faced Madrid.
This is a strange transfer, I see posts vindicating it with talk about giving the aging team one last hope at CL success but they're buying a near 34 year old for an astronomical cost adding to an old team who needs rebuilding to fight off father time.
Utd fans were freaking out because we were linked with a 29 year old Toby after singing a 29 year old Sanchez but this is way past that.
@cyberman but they're signing the most decisive player in the world
Real Madrid is the other club that has that kind of possibilities. Granted that it's the only two clubs in that category.
You are correct but I'm not talking about just increasing it but the most difficult thing is sustaining it. Just like Real Madrid have won most things in the past few years, they can hardly improve on winning anymore titles but what they're trying to do is sustain their success.
No, Real functions very differently with their socios system and still requires a lot of success on the field to keep that level of aura. We are truly unique because of the way we saw this in the 90s and fully switched to a financially driven approach, and that is the fruit we are getting now. If we're not too stupid, we will be back on top soon enough, even sports wise.
Significantly less likely if we signed him since it would be us who have the upper hand over the league and CL.
I’ll come back once I stole almost 15 million Euros from the Spanish people. Once I’m done with that, I’ll promise to donate half of that to charity, cause I’m such a great guy.
Commercially both United and Madrid have reached a level where they will keep growing at a steady rate regardless of performance on the pitch. We aren't suddenly going to lose current or potential investors with this, and united wouldn't gain new investors or get more money from their current ones by signing him
Where we mght lose is on performances on the pitch. It remains to be seen how we will replace him and how good we will be next season
Absolutely correct. Look at us, we've not had anywhere near your success, however, we're still top. All I was trying to say is, we'd get a very good marketing opportunity to exploit. Something is better than nothing...just like we did with Pogba!
But they're dangerously close to having a side with no legs.
I'm sure he'll be an asset but they're not exactly a Ronaldo away from CL success IMO.
Ronaldo doesn't stop them being overran by both Spurs and Madrid but we'll see.
You didn't describe anything different, they are a highly commercial club and like United built an image around excellence. you are trying to invent differences where there isn't. Real Madrid lost nothing when they were relatively average in the second part of 2000s, the same way United haven't lost much during the last 5 years.
Ronaldo going to Juve might be the kick up the butt Serie A needs to get back up to where it should be
Ok, interesting, in my mind, in the 2000s and even a bit before, Real Madrid was really not much. Just an old club with some historical victories. It's possible my memories don't recall it the same way because globalization was not the same and we only focused on one single club, but still... I actually had more "respect" for Juventus, Milan AC and Bayern Munchen than for Real Madrid or even Barcelona as a Manchester United fan. Go figure.
But I never really checked their economical situation at that time indeed.
I do agree with JPRouve, Real and maybe even Barca are similar to us in appeal wise. Real definitely!
So what if he's past HIS best, his current level is still ahead of everyone on the planet.
While that’s debatable, he’s obviously amongst the very best. But that’s not the point. What’s important is, wether he’s still worth this much money, once he’s 35 or 36 years old. I find that quite unlikely, to be honest. Paying for past performances rarely works out. Juve are risking quite a lot here, in my opinion.
I think Barcelona were one of, if not, the greatest sides in history between 2009 and 2011. The 2015 has a good shot of being there as well. Apart from that, they simply weren't. They were obviously a top side but nothing more than other "normal" top sides if you will. This is why I think the excuse that they had to contend with some indomitable force is hugely exaggerated. The point that @Patrick08 has made is a fair one about how it had to do more with Real than Ronaldo. But this is kind of the point. Their shortcomings were too big for any individual, even Ronaldo to be consistent over a league campaign.
In any case, my main point is that physically, the Ronaldo of the past two years is incapable of playing consistently week in week out at the highest level. They have been managing his campaigns towards the CL knockout rounds which has been obviously a successful strategy but it rather demonstrates that we are talking about a player whose ability to dominate a league campaign are behind him.
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