He is a bettter player, but his performance in the finals was not better than Bales.
Cristiano Ronaldo | Real confirm deal
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You think that he would score 150 goals for us? In PL? Boss it is a bold statement...
There can be millions of reasons why Madrid would let him go. He’s been the best player in the world for the last two years, it’s barely debatable, and will have two Ballon d’Ors in a row to show for it.
I honestly don’t get why you’d even mention Lee Grant in this conversation, honestly. It seems likely that the reason we aren’t signing Ronaldo is because we are not prepared to commit to a 4-year investment and all the circus he brings with him. This is reasonable stance by the club, besides it’s not even clear whether he would like to come back here.
I'm sure his salary is the main reason we are not interested. €60m a year is nuts. Also giving Madrid a profit for taking arguably our best ever player and keeping him for his best years would feel like we are being fecked from behind.
Except for the fact we gave Juve an even bigger profit for a player not even close to Ronaldo and left us on a free.
In Buisness or football we should choose Football in the current scenario specially when we have not won the title for the last 5years. We need Ruthlessness In our team. We have got a very good squad but it would be hard to digest when we spend 150m to stay second from second if we don't plug the gap in terms of goal scoring to City.
This is the main reason( except the one that i don't like drama queens players) why i don't want him. It would be basically like this; we bought him, invested in him money and time, then loaned him on 9 season for free and now when he is nearly finished, we get him back. feck that.
I know that ronaldo fans will hate me because of this but the way how he left and because of the fact that we could have won so much trophies with him( we had fantastic squad then) is still painful to me so that prick can feck himself.
When your wife leaves you because of another guy, you don't want her back. Right?
Still not a good deal because once his wages and bonuses are included it’s a £400m deal that you can never recoup. Don’t give me shirt sales cause that won’t cut it.
Also have to pander and build the team around him. And renegotiate his contract as soon as Neymar and Messi get a pay rise...
Nah, let Juve have him.
Also have to pander and build the team around him. And renegotiate his contract as soon as Neymar and Messi get a pay rise...
Nah, let Juve have him.
In real terms they are nowhere near making a profit. To make a purchase like Ronaldo again it would probably cost Madrid £200m. So it's £8m more but in reality it's worth far less than previous.
I don't want him back but that's silly logic. £80m in 2009 is very different to now in the footballing world, in terms of players it buys you and its worth to a club like us. £80m back then was an unprecedented fee, it's probably the equivalent of about £250m today. You simply cannot compare.
Also - you must really hate seeing Paul Pogba play for us.
We made our bed with Sanchez, he was our marquee signing which club wanted to make for a while. Think about it, last summer we had the circus of Griezmann. By all accounts we were ready to pay his clause and wages but he did a u-turn at last moment. That money remained with us before spending it on Sanchez in January (presumably after approaching Griezmann again in January for a summer move and being told to wait). If by some miracle Ronaldo was available for €100m last summer, I'd bet my bottom dollar he'd be our #7 instead of Alexis. But obviously that didn't happen, players like Ronaldo, Bale, Mbappe etc are pipe dreams for us given the outlay of Sanchez transfer.
Except for the fact we gave Juve an even bigger profit for a player not even close to Ronaldo and left us on a free.
Yep, Rooney Mk2
Like hell we did. He demanded but didn't get it, they called him on it and let the contract run out, when he didn't get better offfers he came crawling back.
As supposed to the crazy contract for Alexis, he was one of the best players in the league when he came & you're probably going by the medias ever-increasing contract that must be closing in on £10 million per second now.
Wonder how we didn't go for him? Mourinho? Or the board IDK. He is Cristiano ffs.
We got Sanchez on a swap deal, what massive outlay did he cost?We made our bed with Sanchez, he was our marquee signing which club wanted to make for a while. Think about it, last summer we had the circus of Griezmann. By all accounts we were ready to pay his clause and wages but he did a u-turn at last moment. That money remained with us before spending it on Sanchez in January (presumably after approaching Griezmann again in January for a summer move and being told to wait). If by some miracle Ronaldo was available for €100m last summer, I'd bet my bottom dollar he'd be our #7 instead of Alexis. But obviously that didn't happen, players like Ronaldo, Bale, Mbappe etc are pipe dreams for us given the outlay of Sanchez transfer.
Just means that the shares of Juventus on the stockmarket have risen due to these rumours. Football-shares are a crazy up and down thing and reacts heavily to results and transfers.
When Juve went a long way in the CL a couple of years ago, their stocks went bananas. As soon as the Champions League final was over, the stocks dropped heavily again.
Multiple reasons...
One he's probably still smarting from 'Fax gate'!
Second, United are the most valuable football club in the world...despite all the recent success Real have had. Giving us CR7 would only increase that distance between us and Real.
Third, United supposedly has the most supporters in the world, CR7 would increase this.
Football is not just what happens on the pitch, it is a lot more than that!
Fastest player at the World Cup. Too bad for Juventus that they are buying an over the hill old guy who is well past his best. Apparently
Imho Mourinho. They hated working together and given the personalities involved i don't think Mou would want to try again
Just because we swapped him doesn't mean he didn't cost much or was on a free. Mkhitaryan cost us €42m in summer of 2016, we're going to amortize his fee over the next 2 years as well unless you think Arsenal are footing that bill. That's just what he cost us in regards to fee. Take into account huge signing on bonus along with his mammoth wages which make him highest earner in the squad (more than twice the amount to our next best earner) for another 3 years and it's easy to see why it was such a massive outlay.
We had big money for one marquee signing, it was supposed to be Griezmann but once he turned us down we decided to buy the next big player who was available which in this case was Sanchez.
We don't have the sort of money which is required to buy him considering existing holes in the squad.
Mourinho was waxing lyrical about Ronaldo in WC, we are hardly stacked with world beaters. Mourinho would jump at the chance of signing him if he had those sort of funds available. There are bigger issues in squad to fix.
He is past his best. I don't know how anyone who watched him regularly over the last 9 years can think otherwise
Publicly Mourinho speaks quite fondly of Ronaldo, not saying that isn't for show of course but there doesn't appear to be issues Jose's end
He's past his best, I don't think anyone can deny that.
He's past his best but he's still pretty fecking good (many would argue best in the world still). There are posts around here which make it sound like he's completely washed up and Juve are wasting their money which couldn't be further from the truth.
Hijack Juve
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Don't think it would be the right signing for United at this stage or our development. We have a top striker who needs to be the main man to be worth it. Ronaldo needs to be the fulcrum of any team. Lukaku would shrink. Ronaldo for me would not be very good on the RW at United either. He isn't that swashbuckling youngster anymore. I bet his heat map is in the penalty area. Dybala and Ronaldo would just cement Juve Italian dominance even more.
Sure. He is however 33, his body has clearly declined and still is, evidenced by how he himself went from demanding to play every minute of every game to accepting rotations. He knows his body doesn't recuperate the way it used to. He's the ultimate professional, successfully managed to alter and adapt his game to his declining body, and the way he cares for it, he might well manage to mantain himself performing at a WC level for another 4 years.
Or the mileage might pile up all of a sudden and his body collapses overnight and he's finished as a top level player within a year.
The latter looks less likely, but it's not impossible. At that age, with the career he's had, it is undeniably a risk investing that kind of money and contract duration on him. For juventus though, it's well worth it
Well he joined us for 30m pounds for a start and he wasn't a 30m player when he left us. Wasn't he linked with Juve for 18m? Mkhi would never have left us for 30m if he left on his own so its a bit simplistic to value him as an asset on the fee that we bought him.
If Sanchez is on the 400k a week thats reported then that's 19 odd million a year, a four year contract barely more than we've spent this summer so far and posters think its been a quiet window...spread over four years.
The cost would be like buying Ronaldo and having him play for us for free.
How much is Fred on? I'd bet there isn't that much difference in cost of him playing for Utd than Sanchez is.
Its like signing a Delot (fee plus wages) every year then claiming that cost would stop us signing elite players
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I'm not sure on this one, but in the end, I'd have loved it if we bought him back instead of buying Sanchez in January. I just think the Sanchez dynamic sort of unbalances everything. Not just because they occupy the same position (we can switch Sanchez to the right, or move Ronaldo into a free role/up front), but because I think they both sort of thrive of getting into the box/onto the end of the chances. That's without even adding Lukaku into the equation. I can see either Ronaldo/Sanchez playing with/off Lukaku's strengths etc. but to fit all 3 of them into the same team might be a bit difficult. Finishing chances, iirc, hasn't been our biggest issue, creating chances have been.
Unless Mourinho tries to do a 4-4-2 diamond formation of sorts, or something. But 1 (or even 2) of the 3 will need to sacrifice their goal tally, i would think, to give it the remote possibility of working.
I do like the possibility of Ronaldo for various other reasons as well though - the man is a born leader, winner and hates losing (a mentality we can certainly use more of in this team) and his quality/just mere presence will ensure oppo team automatically "fear" us before a ball is even kicked. Those 2 qualities could be huge for us, albeit not quantifiable.
Unless Mourinho tries to do a 4-4-2 diamond formation of sorts, or something. But 1 (or even 2) of the 3 will need to sacrifice their goal tally, i would think, to give it the remote possibility of working.
I do like the possibility of Ronaldo for various other reasons as well though - the man is a born leader, winner and hates losing (a mentality we can certainly use more of in this team) and his quality/just mere presence will ensure oppo team automatically "fear" us before a ball is even kicked. Those 2 qualities could be huge for us, albeit not quantifiable.
Ronaldo charitable donations included
- Selling his 2011 European Golden boot – £1.2milion
- Selling his 2013 Ballon d’or – £530,000
- Donating to the Nepalese earthquake – £5million* (reported)
- Uefa Team of the Year bonus – £100,000
- Champions League 2014 win bonus – £450,000
- Portugese cancer centre – £120,000
- Helping Erik Oritz Cruz – £55,000
- He also regularly gives blood and has given bone marrow. This is why he doesn’t get tattoos
Let me rephrase, his value being less or more when he left makes little difference to us because the remaining amount of the original €42m fee would still have to be paid by us. His value declining as an asset won't make the originally agreed fee go lower. Sanchez cost us £20m a year on wages, that's without taking into account a huge signing on fee and the fee his agent would've demanded from the transfer. Overall the total outlay of Sanchez deal would be ~£100m (incl. his wages)
Ronaldo's fee alone is £88m, we'd have to pony up £212m in wages over the next 4 years to get him onboard. We simply don't have that sort of money with us considering we've spent in excess of £600m on players since Fergie retired. Ask yourself how much of that amount have we recouped in fees for players who aren't good enough? We're still stuck with the likes of Shaw, Darmian, Blind etc. on huge wages and not many suitors in sight. Why would our board approve a £300m operation it would take to bring Ronaldo back when last six years have shown us how we're struggling to manage the current crop?
We've wasted far too much money on big names as well as mediocre names in last 6 years, whereas other clubs are efficient in shipping out deadwood we're still stuck with loads of them. That's why I don't think we'll spend like a drunk sailor, we have to get the current house in order and manage our resources well before we can attempt in making a transfer of this magnitude.
Maybe Cristiano simply didn’t want to come back to England...He’s still at the peak of his powers,but he’s 33....If he stays in Spain he will regress substantially over the next 48 months.But If he moves to Italy,he can continue to play phenomenally well for the next 4-5 years....The speed of Italian football is way slower than Spain/England...The quality is significantly lower than Spain...
Ronaldo will dominate Italian football for the next 4-5 seasons,so I guess it’s the right move for him...At this stage of his career,he needs to play for a very dominant team.I think he”ll find it very tough to consistently perform in the PL...
He needs to play for a very dominant team at this stage of his career.He needs to play for a Juve or a Real to consistently score goals,he needs his team mates to create chances for him...And obviously he’s still lethal in front of goal.But I think he”ll fail if he comes back to England at this stage of his career....Moving to Italy is the right move for him...
The last one is a big deal. Great guy.
As for the first, I'm not sure it holds much sense when MU fans wanted Bale and dreaded a De Gea move before Zidane resigned and De Gea flopped, respectively.
As for the second, Real would get 100m in value which could then be invested in moves that would hopefully (for them) increase the club's value more than decreasing it, in the long term.
Sure Manchester United has appeal across continents, and that could be a valid reason to not want them to hold Ronaldo, but I think Juventus has more potential in the next few seasons (when Ronaldo would have an impact) to make an upset. Although the global prestige competition sure matters a lot making those types of decisions.
All in all, I think that Real would have sold him to Manchester United, if it was the only club he wanted to go to. But this club seems to be Juventus right now. Surely there are clubs that Florentino Perez wants to sell Ronaldo more than MU, but I don't think that's very relevant in that case.
Where is Ed and Jose? Busy with watching W.C?
Things were bad for a while in Madrid but they get along fine now
Which is far less than the reported figure of 14,8 million Euros in taxes he evaded. Respect.
Uli H. agrees.
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