Cristiano Ronaldo | Real confirm deal

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Serious question to all those wanting him back.

Were he to have a very poor start to the season and score 4 league goals by January (like last season) would you still want him in the side, I ask because the majority's attitude to Sanchez suggests otherwise.

All of a sudden you would look at those wages and think, hmm.


4 league goals by January...

In reality he scored 16 goals in his first 22 games just his goals came in the CL and Spanish Cup...then he ended the season on 44 goals including the over head kick etc against Juve.

People trying to pick holes in his record, its bizarre.
 
I don't think we are in for him in the slightest but yes I would have him back. the best player in the world for two seasons is worth 40/50mil a year, but to be honest he's a proper athlete so he will decline but not as rapidly as everyone states. genuinely think he'll be playing in Qatar 2022. marketing alone would recoup half his fee.

Ronaldo/sanchez/martial/lukaku front four :yum
 
What's this about a the former Juve director saying he has already had his medical in munich? Is this really happening?

If it does, I bet he will say something of the "amazing" fans who gave him an ovation for his overhead goal, and he just had to join this team lol
 
Believe me, it would be far less painful like this for many of us.

Btw, might juventus be interested in signing Cris' BBF Benzema? :D say, dybala+douglas costa straight swap in exchange :cool:. Moght even throw in some cash as a sweetener :lol:

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Firstly he has to lose the kilos that got on holidays :lol:
That does not surprise me in the slightest. With Neymar you'd get a bigger dive and a lesser player (great of course, but such high maintenance).
that can change quickly if he doesn't dive in a couple of matches and win the world cup(although for us maybe It's better if he doesn't win It). In one case or another I want to think that there is something advanced and that we are not going to sell Cris without a substitute
 
It should be a credit to the media that they manage to somehow make me believe Cristiano is leaving Real even though he never does.

This year I will remain unimpressed and convinced he's staying.

or is he?

Damnit, they got me again.
 
I always love a slightly mad, left field transfer like this.

Also, I can imagine Buffon's reaction when he realises they've signed Ronaldo mere weeks after he finally abandoned his dream of winning the CL with them.
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Its a myth clubs makes money from shirt sales? what about image rights, is that a myth too...?
The way current deals are made is that the sponsor gets all the money from the shirt sales. This is offset by the huge lump sums the clubs get paid by the sponsors.
 
that can change quickly if he doesn't dive in a couple of matches and win the world cup(although for us maybe It's better if he doesn't win It). In one case or another I want to think that there is something advanced and that we are not going to sell Cris without a substitute
UEFA just reopened PSG's FFP file. It's got Tito Floren written all over it :drool: :lol:
 
It's the Manchester of Italy :D


It is and you know it. There are only two good things about Turin: its underground subculture (raves, parties, clubs, etc). And the fact it's about an hour/hour and a half away from Milan :lol:

No I do not and I totally disagree, and I am originally from Rome not from Turin so no reason to defend it. It is no Florence or Rome but it is a pretty city that has improved a lot over the last two decades especially after the Olympics, great food, good cultural life nice historical center and close to the Alps a to a nice hinterland more than to Milan :cool:

Going back to Ronaldo, if it is actually happening for Real is a good business, I think that Ronaldo has more years in him but Real needs to rebuild the team after this cycle and there is no point in holding on somebody who is not motivated, getting back the investment after getting his best 9 years is good business. Real in the last few years has been incredibly effective in its campaigns differently to what used to happen a few years ago when they wasted money
 
Its a myth clubs makes money from shirt sales? what about image rights, is that a myth too...?
Ronaldo's image rights won't be owned by Juventus, so they won't be making money off that. His wages wouldn't be anywhere near 30m net if they did.
 
My dad is Italian and supports Juve and is going mental over this. I have family in Turin and can tell you it actually isn’t a particularly nice place to live, I’m guessing Cristiano won’t be living in the centre.
 
Its a myth that shirt sales can cover such a large fee.

With image rights its likely to make more money. But remember that Ronaldo's image rights are owned by a third party, so Juve likely wont have that either.
Juventus won't actually pay much of his wages. Most of it should come through a sponsorship deal with FCA. They also currently retain marketkng rights, i.e. they take care of selling merchandise and hold the bigger % over sales. So they should be able to cover a significant % of the transfer fee through short sales. Then there's the rising value of the stocks, the new and improved commercial deals with the partners old and new, etc. He won't repay himself, but he should help bring in a significant portion of the transfer fee. And then his value to juventus ownership goes well beyond juventus
 
No I do not and I totally disagree, and I am originally from Rome not from Turin so no reason to defend it. It is no Florence or Rome but it is a pretty city that has improved a lot over the last two decades especially after the Olympics, great food, good cultural life nice historical center and close to the Alps a to a nice hinterland more than to Milan :cool:
Rome is a hellhole. Nobody should have to live there :nervous:

Turin is a nothing city, unless you're a party animal. But as i said, it IS close to Milan, the best city in Europe :drool:

:D

Going back to Ronaldo, if it is actually happening for Real is a good business, I think that Ronaldo has more years in him but Real needs to rebuild the team after this cycle and there is no point in holding on somebody who is not motivated, getting back the investment after getting his best 9 years is good business. Real in the last few years has been incredibly effective in its campaigns differently to what used to happen a few years ago when they wasted money
Yeah, this is the sort of deal that is ultimately good for everyone, at least on the face of it
 
https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2016/aug/24/transfer-window-market-myths

But it goes beyond that, it's common sense, why do you think Adidas pay United 750M for the rights of their kits the next 10 years? Why do you think Real ask 100M and not 400?. If you could recoup a transfer fee only by selling shirts then manufacturers wouldn't throw money at you, and other clubs would ask four times the fee they're asking now, no one is gifting anything in football.
Very interesting but not sure I understand everything.
The article says "for the supplier, kit deals are licensing deals, and that’s where the real value lies to Adidas." What is a licensing deal.?
What do you mean with "Why do you think Real ask 100M and not 400?".
I read that Madrid are not so so worried about Adidas deal because in the current one they get a commission for every sale,or something like that.
Is it related to the article?
 
Rome is a hellhole. Nobody should have to live there :nervous:

Turin is a nothing city, unless you're a party animal. But as i said, it IS close to Milan, the best city in Europe :drool:

:D


Yeah, this is the sort of deal that is ultimately good for everyone, at least on the face of it

I would not live in Milan if they paid me, Hell they did and I refused, feck Milan :D
 
Would be happy to see him in Juventus to be honest. I might actually be able to wish him well for the first time in his career since he left United. Could never bring myself to do it when he was at that mob in Spain :lol:
 
Very interesting but not sure I understand everything.
The article says "for the supplier, kit deals are licensing deals, and that’s where the real value lies to Adidas." What is a licensing deal.?
What do you mean with "Why do you think Real ask 100M and not 400?".
I read that Madrid are not so so worried about Adidas deal because in the current one they get a commission for every sale,or something like that.
Is it related to the article?
Basically Adidas retains licensing rights means every bit of merchandising sold that was made by adidas is paid to adidas. Clubs get those mammoth sponsorship deals in exchange for giving up merchandising profits to the supplier

Juventus are a different case though, in that they retain licensing rights. So either adidas will come back with an improved offer, or juventus will stand to profit off CR7 kit sales
 
I would not live in Milan if they paid me, Hell they did and I refused, feck Milan :D
That's crazy talk.:eek: Plus you're a gobbo. There's obviously something wrong with you, go see a doctor! :D
 
Basically Adidas retains licensing rights means every bit of merchandising sold that was made by adidas is paid to adidas. Clubs get those mammoth sponsorship deals in exchange for giving up merchandising profits to the supplier

Juventus are a different case though, in that they retain licensing rights. So either adidas will come back with an improved offer, or juventus will stand to profit off CR7 kit sales

yes that is true but in any case there is no way you can finance a deal like that with merchandising sales, if it goes thru is because they are planning to use him to push Juve and Jeep brands worldwide and to renegotiate some of the other deals that see Juve well below the other top 5 teams. There would be no other way to finance it
 
I think Juve is a great destination for him. Great club, passionate fans (unlike madrid) and the beautiful black and white kit. Found the city a bit too small but definitely has its own charm.

Been told by a Mendes source that it was a done dealio before the WC. Had my doubts at first but with the more recent news it seems he'll really join Juve. And so do I Juventuz.com :drool:
 
But has he said goodbye to his teammates at training yet? Or followed the Juventus players on instagram?
:lol: Dolores Aveiro also should say something to A Bola/Record.Not sure she'll like that swimming pool.I am surprised that this goes so fast, although it is true that Madrid has a special relationship with the Italian teams. For his farewell, Madrid should open the Bernabéu. Of course Florentino won't do it.
Now I need him to explain convincingly why he wants to go
 
yes that is true but in any case there is no way you can finance a deal like that with merchandising sales, if it goes thru is because they are planning to use him to push Juve and Jeep brands worldwide and to renegotiate some of the other deals that see Juve well below the other top 5 teams. There would be no other way to finance it
Yes, plus the lynchpin of the entire deal is his value to Exxor's portfolio rather than juventus alone.

You'd still make quite a bit off shirt sales though. Cristiano brings millions of fans with him
 
Juventus won't actually pay much of his wages. Most of it should come through a sponsorship deal with FCA. They also currently retain marketkng rights, i.e. they take care of selling merchandise and hold the bigger % over sales. So they should be able to cover a significant % of the transfer fee through short sales. Then there's the rising value of the stocks, the new and improved commercial deals with the partners old and new, etc. He won't repay himself, but he should help bring in a significant portion of the transfer fee. And then his value to juventus ownership goes well beyond juventus
Juve will make money from this deal. But it will hardly be through shirt sales though. Those account for very little.

I've seen shirt sales figures and most clubs are selling between 1-2 million shirts per annum. And those are the total sales not just one player. What usually happens is that market cannibalization occurs. So people that were previously buying Higuain shirts move over to Ronaldo shirts. The incremental new sales aren't that much.

What Ronaldo will help is to help Juventus renegotiate marketing deal with partners .They simply can make more money. It's what United do.

So Juve will probably structure this deal to benefit them. But the shirt sales covering the entire deal is largely a myth.
 
Rome is a hellhole. Nobody should have to live there :nervous:

Turin is a nothing city, unless you're a party animal. But as i said, it IS close to Milan, the best city in Europe :drool:

:D


Yeah, this is the sort of deal that is ultimately good for everyone, at least on the face of it

Rome is an amazing don’t know what you’re talking about.

I personally think Milan is one of the most boring cities in Italy. Had too much of an office/business feel to it like Rotterdam.

People go crazy over Florence but I have honestly found my time in Rome to always be best.
 
This will be a very good business for Real. Buy for 80M, win 4 ucl, sell for 100M at age 34.
 
Rome is an amazing don’t know what you’re talking about.

I personally think Milan is one of the most boring cities in Italy. Had too much of an office/business feel to it like Rotterdam.

People go crazy over Florence but I have honestly found my time in Rome to always be best.

Only places I’ve been to in Italy are Rome and Venice. Rome was fantastic, I have great memories from that trip.
 
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