Christ, come on now...
Was him wanting us to pay his fine also out of principle?
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Was him wanting us to pay his fine also out of principle?
Mbappé
On Ney / Mbappé we will have to talk more. Some say that he goes for Neymar,that does not think about anything else
, and other who say that the real objective is Mbappé. AS did a survey, with more than 150,000 votes, and Mbappé won with 90%!!
Absolutely. How could he be expected to feel welcome at a club that didn't pay for his criminality?
Ronaldo's movement is probably what our team is lacking. Our players are so static and hardly embark on good runs behind the fullbacks/cbs. Not to mention his ability to draw defenders which would free up the likes of Lukaku and Pogba
If we signed Ronaldo I'm certain the number of chances we create is going to increase massively.
He is human after all. Ronaldo has been the only bright spark in an ageing and downhill Madrid squad. You can't expect him to do everything by himself.
Age matters, recent precedent with ageing stars "overstaying their welcome", etc...
Plus, when you've got a bellyfull of caviar it's a lot harder to get angry
Ultimately though, life goes on. We have existed and won when long before Cristiano was born, we have won when he was a kid, we won with him, and we will continue winning long after he's retired. To remain succesfull you have to look to the future and not dwell on the past. It's a pity we couldn't agree with him to 2+1+1(all club options) at €60-80m a year, but them's the breaks
I don't even think it's a shame, I think this will be good for Ronaldo and he'll be more of a legend at Madrid by leaving on a high than eventually leaving on a low and that's a good thing for Madrid too. Madrid have won 4 CLs in the past 5 years, a period of winning few titles wouldn't even be a huge problem and this would mean Perez will get Neymar to give the fans the circus and new drama they've been missing. It's time for a new cycle at Madrid, regardless of if the new cycle goes well or not.
You shouldn't take what you've won for granted though, you've won before Cristiano, you've won with Cristiano and you're likely to win after he's gone too but football works in cycles and nothing is guaranteed. You can very well continue winning Champions Leagues for fun but you also might not see Madrid winning anohter one again. Being Real Madrid doesn't guarantee you anything.
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Pele scoring a billion goals in a garbage brazilian league
Pele is not even top 5 all time.
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The Brazilian League then was equivalent to a top European League now
Pele scoring a billion goals in a garbage brazilian league
Pele is not even top 5 all time.
You clearly just make shit up as you go don't you? Pele scored 757 competitive goals in 812 games. The Brazilian league wasn't shit, it was actually a respected league worldwide as Brazil held on to its best players. The exodus of South American talent to Europe began properly in the late 70s. Santos were revered just as Barcelona are today and they beat many top European sides in high profile European tours.
1. Josef Bican 805
2. Pele 757
3. Romario 743
4. Gerd Muller 711
5. Ferenc Puskas 700
6. Ronaldo 658
7. Eusebio 621
8. Messi 617
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The Brazilian League then was equivalent to a top European League now
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Of course it's about money. That's the whole issue. Whatever it may represent, the issue here is that he wants €30m a year after tax in base salary and we're only willing to get that far with performance related bonuses
Intentionally or not, over the last year Cristiano and Mendes have done everything they could to alienate most of madridismo and ensure socios and fans would back Florentino on this. Florentino himself could never have done a better job of it
Intentionally or not, over the last year Cristiano and Mendes have done everything they could to alienate most of madridismo and ensure socios and fans would back Florentino on this. Florentino himself could never have done a better job of it
Yup
I know. Which is why i'm so scared of the possibility of having to pay 60+ millions to a 35-37 year old who might be finished by then. I'd rather watch him lit up the CL with another team at 41 than watch him become a burden and turning into the next Baul
(There's also a matter of personal taste involved. I've rarely liked our football these past 3 years. It works, but it's not entertaining. And i think Cristiano is a big reason for the way we play. Certainly we couldn't play in this way without him, it would not work. To make it clear the muppet dream for me would be Klopp or Sarri in terms of playing style)
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I know. Which is why i'm so scared of the possibility of having to pay 60+ millions to a 35-37 year old who might be finished by then. I'd rather watch him lit up the CL with another team at 41 than watch him become a burden and turning into the next Baul
(There's also a matter of personal taste involved. I've rarely liked our football these past 3 years. It works, but it's not entertaining. And i think Cristiano is a big reason for the way we play. Certainly we couldn't play in this way without him, it would not work. To make it clear the muppet dream for me would be Klopp or Sarri in terms of playing style)
Who needs Klopp or Sarri when you have Lopetegui?
I think Ronaldo leaving is likely to give Madrid a bit of an identity crisis, Lopetegui is a question mark at best, the way of playing would need to change, some key players will leave soon as they’re getting old and some new ones would arrive.
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If this story is true, and that is a big IF, the deal at this point is probably done and dusted and since Mendes is also Mou's agent I am quite sure MU was aware of what is going (IF it is going on)
First Higuain and now Ronaldo, what's wrong with Juventus? They should stick to their shrewd transfer strategy based on buying good talent on decent prices, not waste a 100m on some 33 year old.
Why not then just sell Bale and get him off his wage bill and give him what he wants. Age and fitness is hardly a factor in Ronaldo's case as he is still more fitter faster and better and levels above a younger neymar or still fitter if not levels above Messi who are currently earning more than Him having performed lesser than ronaldo in terms of impact he makes in game results.
No, younger player can ever give them the best shot at ultimately securing the champions league than Ronaldo.
Brazil didn't really have a league for most of Pele's career. Most of his goals were scored in the state championship. Even when they had a national championship, it was a bit different to what you see today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970_Campeonato_Brasileiro_Série_A.Stop
The Brazilian League then was equivalent to a top European League now
Three of those garbage goals were in 2 world cup finals.Pele scoring a billion goals in a garbage brazilian league
Pele is not even top 5 all time.
The kind of nonsense you see posted on here sometimes.
Last year the Serie A was tormented by Donnarumma's saga. The boy kept AC Milan under ransom up until they backed down. It didn't took him too much for him to cause trouble again, with Mino accusing AC Milan for not keeping their word and threatening to push for a transfer. At one point Raiola said that AC Milan are a spent force, that the boy is doing them a favour by playing with them and that if Donnarumma was available then all top European clubs will be begging for his signature. Well, summer started, Donnarumma is available and it turns out that no one one wants him (Mirabelli)
We had something similar with Fellaini. Last year Fellaini refused to sign a contract with us with him coming out saying that he thinks that United's failure in offering him a contract early on was a mistake from our part. Turned out that the many clubs that were supposed to jump at the chance of signing him went AWOL. Ultimately he had to come back to us and sign the contract we gave him.
Football is not in a great state, financially wise. The time when Real and Barca could buy anyone are over. Meanwhile PSG might be hit by FFP and the so called Chinese revolution in the Serie A that was meant to turn Inter and AC Milan into the new Shitty and PSG turned out to be nothing more then a whimper. It still early days but by the looks of it, no one seem to be in the mood to throw money around including us. Sure there's plenty of posturing around especially from agents. However reality and rumours are two different beasts altogether.
I won't be surprised if Bale is indeed available for the right price and that no one is interested in him. Sure he's a decent player but he's on ridiculous salary, he's at the wrong end of his 20s and he's got an injury list which is longer then the American constitution. Signing him up would pose a risk and the player might not want to move if that means taking a pay cut.
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The Higuain we bought from Napoli, that of the 2015/16 could have. That was a beast and a completely different player from what he is now.
We saw Higuain on that lever for 2/3 of the first season and then he declined notably I must say. From time to time you can see some sparks of what he was but overall is nowhere near that god mode level.
But that’s also because Allegri admittedly makes him as a 10 and not as a 10. In fact his stats says that he plays more in the midfield as a trequartista and that his average position is way behind Dybala.
Ronaldo alone won't secure them the CL especially if Real use the money wisely to lure either Mbappe or Neymar. Juventus has a solid but ageing team. They should tackle that first instead of adding luxury signings
Higuain is a good player but he's never had the mentality to be the difference in those kind of games. Even while he was at Napoli.
Probably even before that.
its actually amazing how during his time in Spain hes only won the league twice, quite incredible considering the goals return, yet has 4 CL's winners medals,
not 100 percent would agree with that but one thing is for sure our conversion rate would be a lot higher
IIRC, we have an incredibly high conversion rate at the moment. With Ronaldo liking ridiculously long shots, there is a fair chance that it would decrease.
Overall, this is all a bit bizarre for me.
It's all part of the usual negotiation shenanigans to get as much money as possible, give it a few weeks and it will be 'i stay' with a bumper 2 year contract.
Our conversion rate is good, we don't create nearly enough.
Crazy if this is true. I mean that sounds a lot for a 33 year old, or would of sounded a lot 2 or 3 years ago, it doesn't in the current ridiculous transfer scene, we paid nearly as much as that for Lukaku lol.
I don't care about costs or anything like that, personally I will be gutted of Ronaldo is available for transfer for 100 million(!) and we aren't in for him. I'd love to see him back here, my favorite player of all time and he would bang loads of goals in for us just like he would at Juve.
I can understand totally him wanting to go there at this stage of his career but I would love him back here
I can understand totally him wanting to go there at this stage of his career but I would love him back here
Time to get in this transfer. 100m fee + 200m wages for 4 years should be doable for us. If Juventus can afford it, so we can. He will improve our attack considerably - especially if we plan to win an another UCL - and he will have commercial value. Yes, spending 300m for a 33-38 years old player is quite a lot, but at the end of the day is 60-70m for year, which is just 10% of our yearly revenue.
Sure, he might get injured and everything can go wrong. Or he might play as long as Giggs who even at 40 was still a very useful player (for example, he was our best player vs Madrid in that Old Trafford match). Ronaldo is in an even better physical condition, and he believes that he can play in a top level until 40.
I am all for getting him. Him, Sanchez and Lukaku would be a formidable attack, which will put us in competition for every trophy.
Sure, he might get injured and everything can go wrong. Or he might play as long as Giggs who even at 40 was still a very useful player (for example, he was our best player vs Madrid in that Old Trafford match). Ronaldo is in an even better physical condition, and he believes that he can play in a top level until 40.
I am all for getting him. Him, Sanchez and Lukaku would be a formidable attack, which will put us in competition for every trophy.
Absolutely. They essentially got a top 5 player of all time for free at his absolute peak, and they won 4 UCL lead by him.
If we dont go in for Ronaldo, it will be because Ronaldo has said he doesn't want to come back behind the scenes. No way Would Jose blink an eye at paying that much for Ronaldo, after paying nearly that much for Lukaku, and paying a ridiculous amount for a luxary player like Sanchez.
Or maybe it was the worst by us in the 1st place!
That does not surprise me in the slightest. With Neymar you'd get a bigger dive and a lesser player (great of course, but such high maintenance).
That's one way to look at it. They've got a great centre back pairing, top full backs, the best midfielder in the game but need to freshen up their attack and and GK.
I think they really need to be wary of raising expectations to such a crazy extent. Their backline is ageing rapidly and they have an average GK now. They really need to temper expectations if this deal goes through. On the plus side, the Netflix documentary series will be even more interesting
I'm just glad that it's Juventus and not us again being used as Ronaldo's bargaining chip for his annual 'I'm sad and want more money' story.
Smart of Mendes to change the teams actually, makes it more believable than pretending United still want him back.
Smart of Mendes to change the teams actually, makes it more believable than pretending United still want him back.
We should be in for him! Bring him back home! If he can give us 3 seasons of approximately 35 goals each year, along with the goals Lukaku and Sanchez can bring us then that would be frightening.
Sort out our fullback positions too along with adding Ronaldo and I believe we can compete for not just the Premier League title next season but also the Champions League.
Sort out our fullback positions too along with adding Ronaldo and I believe we can compete for not just the Premier League title next season but also the Champions League.
People believe he's not in decline, he certainly is imo, physically anyway. He was rested for huge chunks of the season in the league and cups and was only used sparingly to keep him fresh for the CL. It's nonsense to spend the amount of money on him for this output, especially in England where the schedule is a LOT tougher than Spain.
And as seen with Zlatan, at that age all it takes is one injury for it to go all wrong.
And as seen with Zlatan, at that age all it takes is one injury for it to go all wrong.
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