Christ, this forum has hit a new almighty low.
Cristiano Ronaldo being compared with Jimmy Saville.
Cristiano Ronaldo being compared with Jimmy Saville.
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I hope one day you don’t resort to whataboutism to devalue a ton of charity work.
“I would like to invite this supporter to watch a game at Old Trafford as a sign of fair-play and sportsmanship.”
Has anyone got any stories of a worse prize they’ve won?
Has anyone got any stories of a worse prize they’ve won?
He wasn’t compared with Jimmy Saville. Jimmy Saville was used as an example of how poor charity work is as an indicator of a person’s morality. People are so touchy about Ronaldo.
It has plenty of relevance in this thread comparing C Ronaldo to a notorious pedofile, as a whataboutism to devalue his character is peak Ronaldo hate.
As a third party who has been reading the last couple of pages, this was my exact thoughts as I was reading it
Yeah because bringing up the most notorious pedofile in British history wouldn’t be emotive? The mind boggles..As a third party who has been reading the last couple of pages, this was my exact thoughts as I was reading it
I agree that charity work doesn't guarantee someone is a good person, but people are acting like he lunged at the kid and smacked him in the face. He lost his cool a little bit, and it doesn't mean that all the time money and effort he's put into charity is suddenly fake or irrelevant.
People moan when our players smile and joke after a bad result, and now when they show a little emotion and passion they are up in arms as if he killed someone.
Does anyone really think Ronaldo isn’t going to present the kid with the newest phone on the market as soon as he arrives at Old Trafford, probably the only and most convenient place to meet?
Someone posted the video, two people said it was a non story, and some people got really riled up. So yeah, people are pretty touchy when it comes to Ronaldo for some reasonAs a third party who has been reading the last couple of pages, this was my exact thoughts as I was reading it
Literally, you are the only person making this a comparison. The point was clearly that charity work doesn’t equate to being a good person, as you suggested. and anyway, it’s not like there’s some very serious allegations about Ronaldo himself predating this charity work…
It’s not devaluing his character, though. I didn’t say Ronaldo is like Jimmy Saville. I didn’t say Ronaldo is a bad person. The touchiness about Ronaldo is what led you to interpret it that way, but it’s a misinterpretation, as @Hernandez - BFA could see quite plainly…
I just said charity work does not make you a good person, that’s not what defines someone’s moral character, other things do. Jimmy Saville is one of many, many examples of bad people doing lots of charity work. It just isn’t a good indicator of whether someone is a good person. Unfortunately.
As a third party who has been reading the last couple of pages, this was my exact thoughts as I was reading it
It’s wild!
So you are suggesting that someone that has spent years donating to various charities, giving up his time to help children with leukaemia, been recognised as a UNICEF ambassador worldwide, holds on weight in a random internet posters option that he is an awful human being?
it doesn’t matter if he’s a nice person or not, all that counts is what he does on the pitch. Stop defending him like he’s your brother or he gives a shite, he doesn’t. He sits in his mansion eating the finest foods and and sleeps just fine I’m sure. Probably sits on his phone laughing at the headlines. The only people who truely know him are the ones close to him. And they all say he’s a great guy. That’s what really matters and he knows it. That’s why he doesn’t give a shite.
He is worth £ 380,000,000, he could give you a million quid tomorrow and earn it back in a single Instagram post the same day. With interest. Is it really a massive shock he gives to charities? It’s small fry to him.
All that matters is he performs on the pitch. Stop dick riding footballers, there not gods off the pitch only on it. All that matters is what they do for you in a game. The rest is hearsay and talk.
He is worth £ 380,000,000, he could give you a million quid tomorrow and earn it back in a single Instagram post the same day. With interest. Is it really a massive shock he gives to charities? It’s small fry to him.
All that matters is he performs on the pitch. Stop dick riding footballers, there not gods off the pitch only on it. All that matters is what they do for you in a game. The rest is hearsay and talk.
So is being a UNICEF ambassador good enough for you?
I just cannot fathom why anyone would even bring up Jimmy Saville, did it not enter you head that, naw this is a bit fecked up when you posted that?
Are you ok? I have absolutely no idea why you’re in such a tizzy. Charity work is totally irrelevant to how good a person you are. You’ve been given a major example to prove that and gone off the deep end and decided to quote more (totally irrelevant) charity stuff.
So again in his thread Ronaldo haters have resorted to bringing up a notorious pedofile and homophobism, but it somehow his fans that are the problem. Keep letting yourselves down guys..
You don’t get it. No bother. Let’s move on.
And you just proved that the point wasn't just about charity work by attempting to be clever.
This. Look how much better juventus are without him this year. Top of the league and breezes past Villarreal to make the quarter finals.
Oh no wait, they'd have to win every single game left in the league to have the same points they finished with last season, that's despite them having a good manager this year instead of pirlo and got embarrassed 3-0 at home to villareal
I have my own opinions and came into this later, which doesn’t change that quoting charity statistics are irrelevant. But you’re right, I can’t stand the guy and didn’t want him based on moral reasons, the fact he’s pretty crap now has just been the icing on that particular cake.
Being patronising to try and devalue or shame me isn’t going to work.
I asked you if being recognised as an UNICEF ambassador was enough for you but you resort to being insulting and I’m supposed to accept your yard stick as to why someone is or isn’t a good person.
I love Ronaldo. The goat for me. I just don’t put a status on his head and have massive expectations that he’s a great person, I don’t know him. Your arguing for someone you don’t know anything about. Just what’s in the media and what is shown. The only people that can speak on his behalf are people that really know him.
That works both ways. He could literally be the nicest person on the planet. Does he perform week in week out and give everything for the shirt? That’s why they pay him the big bucks. His character outside of football doesn’t affect any of us really.
Damaging his legacy at this point.
People acting like a 37 year old man slapping a phone out of a child's hand because he was angry that he'd lost a game of football is "not a big deal" would 100% not be nearly so accommodating had it been Harry Maguire or in fact pretty much any of our other players who had done this...
Ok then. No it isn’t enough. Lots of monsters have still done lots of charity work. Some of the most famously charitable people in history such as Mother Theresa were pretty awful.
So we’ve gotten to the point Latter Day Saints aren’t even enough for phelans shorts off the internet.
Dude I think you need to Google her, she was horrible. Christopher Hitchens made a very good documentary (and later book) about it.
But hey, that’s quite off the point. Just as much as bringing charity work up is when talking about how good a person somebody is.
Everything suggests he's not that good a person. I have always been baffled how much United fans can defend him. He doesn't give a feck about us and never has, if he finds an opening he sees himself first 100 of 100 times. Even if we win it all he still calls himself a slave and will want to leave. An utterly uncharming human being. Always has been, always will be and we get more evidence of it every day. Now he's also a pretty poor footballer who still scores goals every fifth game or so. I said it was a shit signing from the start and I rest my case.
It’s all alleged criticisms as far as I’m aware there is no outstanding truths in it, just a bitter man trying to undo year of good work by another person.
He's reacted angrily at the end of a game and has apologised and offered a token as a gesture of goodwill.
That's fine, matter closed as far as Im concerned.
A bigger issue is that several United players will have just walked off the pitch after giving a minimal effort, and will have been messaging mates about various "vibes fc" type activities, or arranging with their PR team to release another "keep trying....work harder" lie via social media.
Whatever your views on Ronaldo you know he has always taken pride in his achievements and being angry at the end of a game like that is understandable.
Id prefer that genuine reaction to those walking off with hands over their mouths chatting away about something they don't want us to see/hear about.
That's fine, matter closed as far as Im concerned.
A bigger issue is that several United players will have just walked off the pitch after giving a minimal effort, and will have been messaging mates about various "vibes fc" type activities, or arranging with their PR team to release another "keep trying....work harder" lie via social media.
Whatever your views on Ronaldo you know he has always taken pride in his achievements and being angry at the end of a game like that is understandable.
Id prefer that genuine reaction to those walking off with hands over their mouths chatting away about something they don't want us to see/hear about.
I'm actually impressed that you made this look like a good thing for Ronaldo. He cares! I think many have been angry (and I'm sure United players too) without smashing a phone that belonged to some poor kid. He's an egomaniac.
Can’t find it in myself to give a shit about the smashed phone. The Jimmy Saville/Mother Theresa detour was fun though.
Anyway. Ronaldo. What a fecking terrible signing. One of the worst of the Ole era. Probably the worst?
Anyway. Ronaldo. What a fecking terrible signing. One of the worst of the Ole era. Probably the worst?
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Imagine thinking it’s ok to hit a child because they are filming you.
Imagine thinking it’s ok to hit a child because they are filming you.
We've made so many terrible signings it's difficult to even know how to rank them anymore
Do people here who on about him "not being the problem" realize that he's one of the highest paid footballers around? We signed to be a solution (not avoid being a problem) and he's nowhere near that. I'm not sure how we are going to get rid but paying him obscene wages for average performances is yet another blot on the way we are run and consistently hurting us.
Good for him, nice to see a bit of a fecking nastiness in the squad. Need more of it in my opinion.
Seems people missed the point @Brwned was making. But that should be expected given how sensitive some are about him.
Although the phone thing seems really irrelevant.
Although the phone thing seems really irrelevant.
I think we have enough of the pitch nastiness as it is.
Although this really is a nothing incident.
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