Dhoni. Ridiculous. Rest of the middle to lower order needs shooting.
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I am not much of a Dhoni fan to be honest. I hated it that he got so much credit for winning the world cup when Yuvraj did most of the work and Gabhir made more runs and under more pressure in the finals.
To give him credti though, he really knows how to stay calm and trust himself under pressure. He does this stuff time and again and hats off to him for that. What a win yesterday.
To give him credti though, he really knows how to stay calm and trust himself under pressure. He does this stuff time and again and hats off to him for that. What a win yesterday.
Good ODI series going on between Pakistan and Windies. Pak winning today puts us 2-1 up with 1 game to go (1 game was drawn).
I'm glad Umar Akmal & Afridi are back in the team. Umar's our most talented batsman and should be the first name in the side from a batting perspective. Afridi had a great first game (scored 70 odd and took 7/12). He has been his inconsistent best since, yet he's still an important player in the ODI format and should have been in the squad for the Champions Trophy. Irfan continue to impress, the giant has been a good find for us.
I'm glad Umar Akmal & Afridi are back in the team. Umar's our most talented batsman and should be the first name in the side from a batting perspective. Afridi had a great first game (scored 70 odd and took 7/12). He has been his inconsistent best since, yet he's still an important player in the ODI format and should have been in the squad for the Champions Trophy. Irfan continue to impress, the giant has been a good find for us.
India have got a shitload of batsmen coming through. It's getting beyond ridiculous now.
Unmukt Chand, Prashanth Chopra and Baba Aparajith from the u-19 side that won the WC. Vijay Zol looked ordinary in that side, but he's been scoring a lot of runs in the u-19 matches over the last 2 months. Century again today in a 4 day match.
Jiwanjot Singh is supposedly a good player and Sanju Samson's been making runs, both in the U-19 away tour to Australia and again today away to Sri Lanka.
And the present lot of Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Rahane, Raina, Pujara are pretty young.
Some serious batting coming through.
Unmukt Chand, Prashanth Chopra and Baba Aparajith from the u-19 side that won the WC. Vijay Zol looked ordinary in that side, but he's been scoring a lot of runs in the u-19 matches over the last 2 months. Century again today in a 4 day match.
Jiwanjot Singh is supposedly a good player and Sanju Samson's been making runs, both in the U-19 away tour to Australia and again today away to Sri Lanka.
And the present lot of Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Rahane, Raina, Pujara are pretty young.
Some serious batting coming through.
Always have to be careful though with youngsters, still waiting for Rohit to confirm his blatant talent with consistent scoring and some hundreds, I don't think batting will ever be a problem for India. The size of the country allied to the legend of Tendulkar is too much, everyone wants to become a batsman!
Vijay Zol is supposed to be our best prospect. Recent played in Australia and scored loads of runs.
Still no 140+ bowlers
Still no 140+ bowlers
None of them are proven outside India in test matches (Kohli is the only one who's done anything of note outside India in tests).
Raina is a proven failure, Pujara looked completely out of his depth the last time we toured South Africa.
Raina is a proven failure, Pujara looked completely out of his depth the last time we toured South Africa.
Pujara will be a very good test batsman wherever he goes. Ditto for Rohit Sharma, nothing troubles him except for himself.
That remains to be seen but I am not convinced. We'll see how they do against Steyn and co
Another great game between Pakistan and West Indies. A good, close contested series.
Kohli hasn't done much outside of India.
I would say Pujara's 60 ball 10 in SA last time is a better innings than anything Kohli has played outside India.
Fantastic T20 game, Pakistan get the win from the last ball of the game. Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one watching this series
Afridi hit his 400th 6 in international cricket. Played well until a typically foolish dismissal.
Afridi hit his 400th 6 in international cricket. Played well until a typically foolish dismissal.
Pakistan's ODI series with WI being investigated for fixing.
Apparently the tied match is the most suspicious once. I saw that match and I don't think it was fixed to be honest.
Not sure you can decide or fix a no.11 hitting 14 runs of an over of a fast bowler bowling at more than 140 kph. The probability of that happening is pretty less.
fecks sake, there's always something to disappoint Pakistan fans whenever the team looks to have strung together a decent run. Hopefully it's false allegations.
If there has been any fixing, the ICC should just ban them until a thorough investigation is held into all Pakistani players and the PCB. As a fan, I'm tired of all the off-field nonsense that goes on with this team.
Whilst they're looking into this series, maybe they can look at Misbah's batting in the WC semi-final v India? I'll never forgive him for that display
If there has been any fixing, the ICC should just ban them until a thorough investigation is held into all Pakistani players and the PCB. As a fan, I'm tired of all the off-field nonsense that goes on with this team.
Whilst they're looking into this series, maybe they can look at Misbah's batting in the WC semi-final v India? I'll never forgive him for that display
I don't rate Shikhar Dhawan, I think he's been extremely lucky so far and he'll go out of the team soon.
I think he's a good player, but been extremely lucky, yes.
Rohit's getting a lot of unfair stick. I haven't seen a single ball of this series but he was very, very good in the champions trophy and then 3 bad scores adn people clamouring to drop him and talk of how he never performs.
Would like to see what Dhawan does against England, SA in test cricket before passing judgment on him.
At the moment, our best ODI top 7 is Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Pujara, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, but for some reason, Pujara's being tried up top, where we don't have vacancies.
Strange decision, IMO.
Rohit played brilliantly in difficult conditions in West Indies. He's a better player than Shikhar Dhawan.
It's a big if, but if Yuvi sorts out his fitness(he and Zak has been working very hard on it) then he absolutely walks in the team at no.4. I'd like to reserve Pujara only for tests till now.
I strongly disagree with that. At 3 and 4, we need players who can score hundreds. Yuvraj's not that player anymore.
Rohit Sharma is also more talented than Pujara and maybe even as good as Kohli. But he has an average of 30 in more than 100 games and been given more chances than most young Indian batsmen combined so if people are calling for him to be dropped after three poor scores against Zimbabwe then I am with them. He's at the stage where he must consistently deliver or be dropped. How many 100's did he score in the CT and then in WI? None is your answer because he comes up with ridiculous shots to get him out after getting himself in. Dhawan in less than 20 games has more hundreds than Sharma and that speaks volumes.
oh and I agree. Pujara should concentrate on tests. We have more than enough players for the ODI's. Don't want him to damage his knees
oh and I agree. Pujara should concentrate on tests. We have more than enough players for the ODI's. Don't want him to damage his knees
Yuvi's good enough to score hundreds in the ODI's. If he sorts out his fitness then he should be given a go or I'd love if they don't treat Rahane like shit and give him a proper slot at no.4. None of the other candidates stand out.
Re: Rohit, the innings he played in WI were extremely impressive, he was one of the main reason why we won the series their, constantly gave us starts and made 60's and 50's. He's improving.
Rohit has been improving for 6 years. If that's not enough time then I don't know what is
Well he was our best batsmen in extremely tough conditions in WI and where all our other batsmen struggled apart from one or two knocks, so yeah I think he's improving.
Just seen the scorecard. Nice to see Mishra do so well. Now he's someone who I think has been hard done by selectors. Very good bowler imo
Recent form is more an indicator of how a player should be judged. 3 matches is not an extended enough period of time to drop a player who has made 480 runs in 12 innings before that, considering he was the 2nd best batsman in the champions trophy and the best batsman in WI -- all this in context of opening against the 2 new balls. You realize his average would still be hovering near 30s even if he'd converted a couple of his 70s into 100s?
Lets not dress up things here. He played well in WI but still managed to bottle it on more than one occasion after getting a start, the final being a good example. Getting to 100's is not just about improving his average, it's about carrying on once you get in and cashing it in and this is something he has consistently failed to do. Dhawan hasn't got as many starts as Sharma did but when he did get a start he made it count. Kohli is another one in similar vein and has 15 (
) 100's in similar amount of games.Fact is Rohit has got more chances than he deserved and it's about time he backed up the trust shown in him by multiple selection committees.
100 is just a number, you realize? 60s and 70s are valuable if provided consistently. If he's doing it and the team's winning, what are you cribbing about?
Probably because he's a lazy bastard and barely any of those 50's have been match winning knocks.
I don't think you actually watch cricket.
Good comeback
Lets not dress up things here. He played well in WI but still managed to bottle it on more than one occasion after getting a start, the final being a good example. Getting to 100's is not just about improving his average, it's about carrying on once you get in and cashing it in and this is something he has consistently failed to do. Dhawan hasn't got as many starts as Sharma did but when he did get a start he made it count. Kohli is another one in similar vein and has 15 (
Fact is Rohit has got more chances than he deserved and it's about time he backed up the trust shown in him by multiple selection committees.
Let's not compare Virat to anyone, as he's something else.
But I'd bet with you anything that Dhawan would go out of the team soon. Personally the opening pair of him and Vijay gives me shivers against Steyn n Co.
What did Sachin average after 100 ODI's? Sharma has enough talent and I think the captaincy stint he had in the IPL will help him mature and this stint opening will help too.
Once Sharma comes into Tests he'll fly.
More than Rohit I should think although Sachin batted well down the order then and couldn't have had more than 2 or 3 hundreds. Stupid comparing them though
I wasn't comparing them, I was using Sachin as an example. It took him 79 ODI's for his first 100, it's clear Sharma has all the talent, he averages 40 odd this year and deserves a good run in the team.
On talent and ability alone I'd say he's the best of the current crop. Shite temperament though.
Monty Paneser going all premiership football star-style.
Monty Panesar: England cricketer 'urinated on bouncers'
Monty Panesar has been fined for being drunk and disorderlyEngland cricket star Monty Panesar has been fined by police after being caught urinating on nightclub bouncers in Brighton, the BBC understands.
The spin bowler, who plays for Sussex County Cricket Club, was fined for being drunk and disorderly outside the Shooshh club early on Monday morning.
Sussex Police said a 31-year-old man had received a fixed penalty notice for being drunk and disorderly.
Sussex County Cricket Club said it was investigating the incident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-23600037
Monty Panesar: England cricketer 'urinated on bouncers'
The spin bowler, who plays for Sussex County Cricket Club, was fined for being drunk and disorderly outside the Shooshh club early on Monday morning.
Sussex Police said a 31-year-old man had received a fixed penalty notice for being drunk and disorderly.
Sussex County Cricket Club said it was investigating the incident.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-23600037
One of the slashed on bouncers was Shane Bluck.