He's shit and I cannot believe we dropped Sarfaraz for him.
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He's shit and I cannot believe we dropped Sarfaraz for him.
His performance outside home is also pretty decent with an average of 26 with 2 100s and 6 50s. Those two centuries in Windies. Also, match saving knock in Sydney.
Jadeja of course is better.
153 wickets outside India with an average of 29. Has better bowling average in SENA countries than Harbhajan. Bowling average of 18 in windies. Bowling average of 28 in England. Nothing like home but hardly a crap one.
Windies suits spinners to be fair. I was only being facetious but he's a decent but nowt spesh spinner. Great record at home though. And I don't think Harbhajan was that great either. Test average of 32? Far worse than I recalled.
I feel he was many times been harshly dropped . India preferring 4 pacers meant he was the unlucky one to miss out. But I thought his spell in Melbourne where he dismissed both Smith and Labu was a top one. Deserved 5 wickets. Even his spell against NZ in WTC final in england was really great. Would have been a first choice spinner even in SENA countries in any other era.
Who is each test nations KL Rahul?
England it's easy: The OG wasteman - Ian Bell.
@Samid any thoughts?
England it's easy: The OG wasteman - Ian Bell.
@Samid any thoughts?
Very similar to the recently retired Jimmy Clouderson. Doesn't really take away from their achievements though.
Anderson's away record isn't great either but he did improve later on in his career, to be fair.
Off top of my head:
Aus - Marcus Harris
Ban - Soumya Sarkar
Eng - Bell
NZ - Tom Latham
Pak - Asad Shafiq
SA - Temba Bavuma
SL - Lahiru Thirimanne
WI - Kraigg Brathwaite
Zim - Hamilton Masakadza
The shorter form wastemen annoy me more though. Special place in hell for that lot.
Pant is so good, showing why he was heavily missed while he was out. Modern test cricket requires players like him to elevate their teams.
Why is there a rest day in the SL v NZ test match?
Presidential election today, I think the Sri Lanka players/staff have to travel to where they're registered to vote.
Cheers, didn’t know that.
Bangladesh have wasted a good start, from 86-1 to 140 odd for 4. Seems predictable that Bumrah will return for a spell to wreck them further and leave them in peril at 200 odd for 7 or 8 by close of play if they are not careful. Done by lunch tomorrow, India are inevitable.
Been a shitty domestic season for my two teams - Lancs and Notts. They're both battling with each other for avoiding that final relegation spot going into the final round of games. So I can't really 'win' either way. One's going down.
Although, same with the One Day Cup Final, the ending being pushed back to late September means it looks like the final round of games is going to be badly affected by the weather anyway.
The schedule is set up with such contempt for the championship and One Day Cup. The latter played with weakened squads clashing with The Hundred, then the final pushed to the end of September. The championship mostly played early season and late season, when they expect worse weather, in the hope it's drier for the middle part where they play the T20 and the bloody Hundred.
Basically, anything over 20 overs being sh*t upon in attempts to appeal to the targeted demographic of 'new fans' (with short concentration spans!)
Although, same with the One Day Cup Final, the ending being pushed back to late September means it looks like the final round of games is going to be badly affected by the weather anyway.
The schedule is set up with such contempt for the championship and One Day Cup. The latter played with weakened squads clashing with The Hundred, then the final pushed to the end of September. The championship mostly played early season and late season, when they expect worse weather, in the hope it's drier for the middle part where they play the T20 and the bloody Hundred.
Basically, anything over 20 overs being sh*t upon in attempts to appeal to the targeted demographic of 'new fans' (with short concentration spans!)
Try being a Derbyshire fan
absolutely diabolical again this season - even with Micky Arthur at the helm!Lots of fans wanting him gone but he's just saying 'judge me on 2025' which is absolute rubbish, he's been here plenty long enough to have had an impact.
He also said at the fans forum last week to someone who complained to 'not bother coming if you don't like it'. This chap being a member who had paid a lot of money for his season ticket!
That doesn't sound a great situation.Try being a Derbyshire fan
Lots of fans wanting him gone but he's just saying 'judge me on 2025' which is absolute rubbish, he's been here plenty long enough to have had an impact.
He also said at the fans forum last week to someone who complained to 'not bother coming if you don't like it'. This chap being a member who had paid a lot of money for his season ticket!
I don't think many are impressed with Lancs choice of head coach - Dale Benkenstein - either.
He'd been at Gloucestershire for the previous couple of years: they were relegated from the first division in his first season, then finished bottom of the 2nd division, without winning a game, in his second. That was the point Lancashire were suitably impressed and appointed him for this season - and it's been another sh*t season for him and seems set for another relegation. While Gloucestershire, without him, won the T20 this season.
Very strange appointment.
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As much as I love longer formats of the game, I think there's been some rare common sense used with the One Day Cup Final - reducing it to 20 over a side from the start of the reserve day in an attempt to preempt the bad weather forecast for later.
I've often thought that should happen in some situations when bad weather is forecast as the day progresses and a result is really needed (a final / decider of a series) - but they almost always go down the route of staying at the usual length and the game being abandoned after one innings when the forecasted downpours arrive.
Working around the forecast to try and get a result in seems sensible - though I guess fans / tv companies would complain on the occasions when there's not as much rain as predicted and they could have played more overs a side.
It's a tricky balance. But today's definitely feels the right call.
I've often thought that should happen in some situations when bad weather is forecast as the day progresses and a result is really needed (a final / decider of a series) - but they almost always go down the route of staying at the usual length and the game being abandoned after one innings when the forecasted downpours arrive.
Working around the forecast to try and get a result in seems sensible - though I guess fans / tv companies would complain on the occasions when there's not as much rain as predicted and they could have played more overs a side.
It's a tricky balance. But today's definitely feels the right call.
Yeah it was a good call, although I suppose it's an easier one to make given there's pretty much no crowd and it's a competition the ECB don't care about.
Though as a Somerset fan I'm just wishing it had continued raining
Was always going to be much tougher for this side in a shortened game, not enough big hitters without the usual T20 players.Yeah it was a good call, although I suppose it's an easier one to make given there's pretty much no crowd and it's a competition the ECB don't care about.
Though as a Somerset fan I'm just wishing it had continued raining
Your boys giving it a hell of a go!! Would be an incredible chase if they pull it off.
Yeah, that's a very valid point.Yeah it was a good call, although I suppose it's an easier one to make given there's pretty much no crowd and it's a competition the ECB don't care about.
Though as a Somerset fan I'm just wishing it had continued raining
Looking at your T20 Final team and todays, it looks like there's only 4 players that played in both - Rew, Dickson, Green, Davey. As you say, you're missing a lot of big hitters.
Just left it a little late, possibly should have been more flexible with the batting order to get Dickson in earlier.
Rew had only played 1 T20 before finals day as well. Can't argue with selection though, this is the group that got to the final so they deserved to play. At one point I think they had 12 players missing to the hundred/international duty so it was a good effort to get this far. But it does complete a miserable 10 days!
Yeah, missing out on the Championship once again.
As a Jack Lisowski fan at Snooker I can empathise - I know you do win some one day trophies (so not as trophyless as him!) but it feels like you're very much the Jack Lisowski of the County Championship. Still never won it but how many 2nd and 3rd placed finishes is that now? You must be getting sick of so many near misses.
6 2nd place finishes in the Championship, all since 2001 with 5 since 2010. Also finished runners-up in the Covid year where they had the Bob Willis Trophy instead! Just have to keep believing it'll happen eventually, these days with not everyone playing each other twice and rounds where they use the Kookaburra ball maybe it could even come down to being lucky with the fixture list one year.
This season didn't feel too bad to be honest, it was only really that game a couple of weeks ago that opened up the possibility and even then you knew that Surrey are just so strong and were likely to win both remaining games.
KL is India's one of India's best batsman across ODIs and tests in the last couple of years. I think his terrible IPL performances have done his reputation a lot of harm
Try being a Derbyshire fan
Lots of fans wanting him gone but he's just saying 'judge me on 2025' which is absolute rubbish, he's been here plenty long enough to have had an impact.
He also said at the fans forum last week to someone who complained to 'not bother coming if you don't like it'. This chap being a member who had paid a lot of money for his season ticket!
Also a Derbyshire member and also at the forum last week. Not a great situation all round. I see we have signed some Australian opener for next season to much fanfare. When you dig a little deeper you find out he's been playing for Doncaster this season. Doesn't really sound like he is the answer based on that...
Yes I thought the same mate.
Averages 31.47 in FC cricket and admittedly he got a double century the other week for Tasmania (and let's not forget that's where Di Venuto came from
but I think other than that his average in the SS this season has been in the 20s.And as you say, if he's had to resort to club cricket this year it hardly looks like the calibre of player we should be after if we want to avoid finishing bottom again.
Arthur has a lot to answer for but he's not interested, he just wants his payslip and to bugger off at the end of the 2025 season.
Kamindu Mendis has now hit 8 50s in a row since his debut which is a new record. Was really impressed with him on the England tour.
Cricket has its new GOAT. Kamindu Mendis - wtf
That good?
I’m convinced if they had him batting 5 from the start of the tour they would have beaten England.
Are NZ batting on the same pitch that SL were? SL scored 600/5 and NZ all out for 88.
India going for th win, 195 in 25 overs. They'll declare with a 100 lead i reckon
WTC has been great for Test Cricket. Draws are worthless now as the win% is what matters for your hopes to qualify for the final
WTC has been great for Test Cricket. Draws are worthless now as the win% is what matters for your hopes to qualify for the final
8 RPO and keep going for another 20 overs, or declare if RR < 8.
Even 10 more overs at 8 is trouble for Bangladesh. India can bat last and overhaul a small score quite easily.
Certainly a product of the fact we are never in the running for it - but I reckon 90% of the Cricket watching public in the UK do not know what it is.
It's irrelevant whether the public knows (which is fair because ultimately only a few teams are ever in the running for the final), but the players and teams definitely know.
That's shaped the way teams are approaching games.
I've not really seen it with England. We played a very casual line up etc v Sri Lanka in the final test when 2-0 up.
But anything test wise that India take seriously is good for the global game so hopefully it will catch on if the fans buy in to.
I'd say yes and no to that. India have such a huge advantage to the small number of other teams that play cricket - in both population and financial (and therfore political say / pull in the game as they generate so much of the money and get back much more than others) - that it's been a lot of underachieving from them so far to have never had a real era of dominance unlike smaller nations such as England, WI, Australia.
For the future of test cricket, it can't afford a nation who pretty much 'run' the sport financially to have no interest in it so, yeah, in that respect it needs India to have respect for it. But for sporting competitiveness, it's also important they don't start making full use of that huge population and financial advantage and getting too good / dominant at the formats. That wouldn't be good for the global spread of the game if it becomes so one nation dominated.
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Per capita we are nowhere near the likes of England, Australia, New Zealand.
Number of players playing is high, but people with access to good nutrition and facilities is probably smaller than a country like Uk. Think the ‘india should dominate’ trope is over played a bit.
Most people even in one of the more developed cities here won’t get any protein. All these small villages and towns produce players not because of a system but because of outliers due to volume.