That makes sense.. another logical argument. We'll see what refs say when asked to explain it.
Craig Pawson
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That makes sense.. another logical argument. We'll see what refs say when asked to explain it.
Trying to get up isn’t falling. He has already fell! He is on the ground trying to keep up with Sancho, he is in full control of what he’s attempting to do
Yes the famous post match interviews with the refs.
I don't think he is though, thats kinda my point, I don't think he has control when his arm goes down and stops the ball. I do think had it been given VAR wouldn't overturn it I just don't see the peno here and when it happened I knew why its wouldn't be given. Should it be a pen if common sense is applied is a more apt discussion? Because we all know how stupid the handball rule is, common sense its very likely a pen but under current rules its not.
You’re right, we disagree but my issue is var not even referring it. Let the ref make the decision
Dermot Gallagher usually does an article on sky sports as do a few other refs.
We actually have this here sometimes.
But he’s galloping along the ground! He hasn’t fallen and lost control, he has fallen and is trying to get back at Sancho. He is making a choice with what he’s doing. Not being able to do it shouldn’t matter, that’s just his poor decision making.
They certainly love disagreeing with each other, sure it will be insightful.
I thought “Homer” was such an outdated concept in this world of VAR and professional refs.
Bollocks.
Bollocks.
This is a problem with the handball rules for me and the "clear and obvious" var thing. Its was likely var "Did you think that was deliberate ref" ref "Nope" var "we can't disprove that".
Im being pedantic here because thats kinda how football is reffed nowadays.
That he fooled you? It does, kinda. Unless of course you know he didn't, in which case...
Since they protect refs he wont have to explain shit. You are not the ref, so hopefully I wont need to hear it again.
But the other challenges (given, not given) they decided to refer/not refer. No one can say something is 100% deliberate, var is there to give refs a chance to reconsider something that a couple of angles might help with.
VAR only sends the ref if they deem the decision a "clear and obvious error" honestly its stupid. Thats kinda my point, the VAR will never send the ref to the monitor for that because they can't deem it clear and obvious when its subjective (as this thread has proven). VAR has to be pretty much 100% (you're wrong here ref or you've missed this here ref). Its applied incredibly stupidly and incredibly inconsistently but its the rules that need changing before we argue the decisions if that makes sense.
If I was ref using common sense I'd say "ball was running in the box under Sancho's control, ball was stopped by Cedrics arm that wasn't at his body. Penalty" but having to ref under all these stupid little restrictions, criteria and little details to consider change that completely.
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Said it last week easily the worst ref in the PL. an absolute coward.
He already fell on his hand, he does not need to continue running on his hands to defend with his hands. I cant believe that needs explaining?
Wtf are you on about
He’s took three steps on his hands and then swipes the ball. Literally if one of our players did that I’d fully expect a penalty. It’s the most blatant penalty I can imagine. It’s ridiculous.This match is the biggest robbery in PL , surely there should be an investigation on ref and var decisions. But nobody will care
So to recap:
- Possible pen on Elanga not given - no review needed
- Stonewall pen on Sancho - not given and no review needed
- Soft pen given to arsenal despite not actually being the thing VAR was looking at - on field review needed
- Foul on Elanga right on edge not given or checked
- Arsenal’s 3rd goal stood despite being offside - no check or on field review
Hard not to feel a bit hard done by.
- Possible pen on Elanga not given - no review needed
- Stonewall pen on Sancho - not given and no review needed
- Soft pen given to arsenal despite not actually being the thing VAR was looking at - on field review needed
- Foul on Elanga right on edge not given or checked
- Arsenal’s 3rd goal stood despite being offside - no check or on field review
Hard not to feel a bit hard done by.
Not just that. They reviewed Fernandes "stamp" but not Arsenal player moments before.
And people say that it is fair game? We need transparency. We need mics on. We need to hear what has been said in the room and between referees. Right know they invite people to guess and wonder what the problem is.
These premier league referees need seriously upgrading next season! There awful. I don’t like the fact when they go to the monitor aswell that automatically means there giving the decision. They never stick by there on field decision… when they get asked to check the monitor it means they made a mistake with the on field decision… I thought it could only get over ruled if it was clear and obvious? The handball today that the ref missed would of been a pen had he give it… so how come when he doesn’t give it or see it then it’s not over ruled?
Pawson is a gutless twat.
Got so much wrong today in arsenals favour it was unbelievable. Turned a 3-1 win for utd into a 3-1 win for arsenal.
fecking homer
Got so much wrong today in arsenals favour it was unbelievable. Turned a 3-1 win for utd into a 3-1 win for arsenal.
fecking homer
Generally I don't like going in for refs as I think it's such a hard job, and a thankless one, but this guy stands out as incompetent. Not a name you want to see associated with one of our matches.
Wank stain!
I can’t see anything in the media on about this.
Imagine if this was Howard Webb in our favour, he’d be crucified
Imagine if this was Howard Webb in our favour, he’d be crucified
Did this fecker give arteta a wink?
What a tool!
What a tool!
Absolute tool. He was so bad VAR had to ref the game. We know how bad they are but he was worse.
The standard of refs is so low.
Sick of the English referees having absolutely no repurcussions for woeful performances.
They should be made to explain the contentious decision afterward.
They should be made to explain the contentious decision afterward.
How awful is this clown?
He’s a ref who never gives us the benefit of the doubt. You look at his decisions and you can see why he gives them it’s just that he always gives them
Man's not having a good performance.
There's no way City or Liverpool players would get yellow cards for these fouls.
Wanker.
Pretty harsh with the yellows.
Surprised at the criticism. He's done us a big favour by overlooking the obvious Martinez handball and the Dalot yellow was a blatant one. Malacia arguably could have gotten away with just a foul against but at the same time he shouldn't have been getting done by Justin so easily. Eriksen could also have gotten yellow for kicking the ball away pointlessly but he let him off.
Pawson handing out yellows for fun now