RedDevilRoshi
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Good. Next dock those who cannot play wages like they did in Germany.
Wasn't there a report/article somewhere that said most footballers weren't vaccinated?
It's also worth pointing out the following from the article:Confirmed United players who were at Carrington on Wednesday:
Cristiano Ronaldo, Fred, Victor Lindelof, Amad, Marcus Rashford, Eric Bailly, Raphael Varane, Diogo Dalot, Scott McTominay, Anthony Martial, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Lee Grant, David de Gea, Bruno Fernandes, Edinson Cavani, Phil Jones, Alex Telles, Tahith Chong.
https://t.co/njDnlLJI64
Cobble together a starting 11 out of that;
De Gea
Dalot
Bailly
Varane
Telles
Mcfred
Fernandes
Rashford
Cavani
Ronaldo
not bad really. Just missing Sancho and Maguire from the team that beat Norwich. And Greenwood must be out and have to self-isolate because he's not vaccinated and came into contact with someone who has covid. Not because he has covid because he had covid recently and recovered.
Hopefully!It's also worth pointing out the following from the article:
A total of 17 first team players were spotted arriving at Carrington, although some who weren't spotted by MEN photographers could have reported earlier.
Hopefully there are a few others that were at training but just not spotted.
I'd imaging our game against Brentford only got called off because of lack of training and the fact we was probably still waiting for PCR test results. Brighton game is definitely going ahead right now I suspect.
It's also worth pointing out the following from the article:
A total of 17 first team players were spotted arriving at Carrington, although some who weren't spotted by MEN photographers could have reported earlier.
Hopefully there are a few others that were at training but just not spotted.
Where’s the banhammer when you need it?A remarkable generalisation that.
I've had my vaccine, before you decide to have a pop. My wife worked in ITU for 6 years in one of the largest hospitals in the country, she's left now, but her best friend is still there who has now moved into a bed manager position. She's refusing to get the vaccine because of the huge increase in patients being admitted with strokes, the overwhelming majority of which have received the vaccine. This is someone that's been in the thick of it for 2 years, has seen both sides, but she's come to her own decision.
Let's not act like everyone that doesn't happily lap up every vaccine sent our way is some sort of thick shit that should be taken out of the gene pool.
Yeah I can’t see otherwise.
For what exactly?! Absolutely ridiculous. All I've put forward in that post is the decision of someone that is dealing with this on a daily basis has taken. And you're suggesting that's something to be banned for?Where’s the banhammer when you need it?
So even when we are ravaged with covid VDB still won’t play
Depends on Brighton, dont they also have issues with covid?
I just love the if you are against the vaccine, you are dumb.I love how anti-vax is now called pro-choice.
I've yet to encounter an intelligent person who is 'pro-choice'... sadly even some of my (distant) relatives are of this persuasion. The common theme? They are not very bright. At all.
Is there any evidence linking the vaccine with strokes? Genuine question as I don’t know.A remarkable generalisation that.
I've had my vaccine, before you decide to have a pop. My wife worked in ITU for 6 years in one of the largest hospitals in the country, she's left now, but her best friend is still there who has now moved into a bed manager position. She's refusing to get the vaccine because of the huge increase in patients being admitted with strokes, the overwhelming majority of which have received the vaccine. This is someone that's been in the thick of it for 2 years, has seen both sides, but she's come to her own decision.
Let's not act like everyone that doesn't happily lap up every vaccine sent our way is some sort of thick shit that should be taken out of the gene pool.
You mean the evidence from some guy's wife's friend isn't enough to convince you?Is there any evidence linking the vaccine with strokes? Genuine question as I don’t know.
People like you are so annoying.You mean the evidence from some guy's wife's friend isn't enough to convince you?
People comparing the covid vaccine to flu shots are actually pretty dumb. Almost like they don't realize there is a global pandemic going on.I just love the if you are against the vaccine, you are dumb.
It's almost like the illuminated ones don't know why it takes like 5 years to fully test and vaccine and guarantee it's safety or they just don't care.
The nerve to even compare people who are insecure with this Covid shot with people who are antivax is really something.
Yeah, we should all clap and cheer the Facebook nutties who hate vaccines because Dawn from down the street had her cat stolen after she had the shot.People like you are so annoying.
For not believing something he reads on the caf?People like you are so annoying.
I think people who are not at risk and healthy should be really careful when taking it. Athletes included, the odds of something serious happening are very slim. This disease seems to affects at risk people disproportionately.Post of the day!
I find it bizarre that any professional athletes, individuals whose fitness is integral to their professions, would be anti-vax. Death is not an unheard of outcome of contracting the COVID. Even if the odds are long because of you’re in your 20s, you’re playing with fire by not getting vaxxed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34611009/Is there any evidence linking the vaccine with strokes? Genuine question as I don’t know.
That same nurse is now gouging her eyeballs out with spoons as she noticed that all the patients on her stroke ward had two of them.Is there any evidence linking the vaccine with strokes? Genuine question as I don’t know.
I don't know, I haven't looked it up as I've had the vaccine. I don't know if she's done any research or if she's just going by what she's seeing come in on the wards, rightly or wrongly. I just give an example where people are clearly compos mentis making their own decisions and people on here are baying for blood.Is there any evidence linking the vaccine with strokes? Genuine question as I don’t know.
There's a reason why anecdotes of (even well-meaning) clinical staff do not tend to shape healthcare policy and best practice.I don't know, I haven't looked it up as I've had the vaccine. I don't know if she's done any research or if she's just going by what she's seeing come in on the wards, rightly or wrongly. I just give an example where people are clearly compos mentis making their own decisions and people on here are baying for blood.
Good. Next dock those who cannot play wages like they did in Germany.
You cannot simply delay and delay.
The abstract of the one you sent seems to say that they can’t tell if it’s a coincidence yet or a genuine link. Interesting to see if anything else comes from it.I think people who are not at risk and healthy should be really careful when taking it. Athletes included, the odds of something serious happening are very slim. This disease seems to affects at risk people disproportionately.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34611009/
There are other studies in the related links.
I came upon this some time ago, when my best friend had a stroke and after a batery of tests no reason was determined, and the doctor open up about how she and her colleagues were getting an alarming number about this correlation. In his case was Astra Zeneca.
Tbf it's a non-argument. I haven't heard one intelligent person being pro-injection. Most have done it, like me, just to be able to work and earn money in our profession.I love how anti-vax is now called pro-choice.
I've yet to encounter an intelligent person who is 'pro-choice'... sadly even some of my (distant) relatives are of this persuasion. The common theme? They are not very bright. At all.
Astra is shite to the point that I had problems having the second dose as the injection point decided not to use it further because of side effects.I think people who are not at risk and healthy should be really careful when taking it. Athletes included, the odds of something serious happening are very slim. This disease seems to affects at risk people disproportionately.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34611009/
There are other studies in the related links.
I came upon this some time ago, when my best friend had a stroke and after a batery of tests no reason was determined, and the doctor open up about how she and her colleagues were getting an alarming number about this correlation. In his case was Astra Zeneca.
A remarkable generalisation that.
I've had my vaccine, before you decide to have a pop. My wife worked in ITU for 6 years in one of the largest hospitals in the country, she's left now, but her best friend is still there who has now moved into a bed manager position. She's refusing to get the vaccine because of the huge increase in patients being admitted with strokes, the overwhelming majority of which have received the vaccine. This is someone that's been in the thick of it for 2 years, has seen both sides, but she's come to her own decision.
Let's not act like everyone that doesn't happily lap up every vaccine sent our way is some sort of thick shit that should be taken out of the gene pool.
I think it's because you try so hard to be right and are desperate to seek acknowledgement, and it shows in your posts. So it's a bit more than just giving an example, I think.I don't know, I haven't looked it up as I've had the vaccine. I don't know if she's done any research or if she's just going by what she's seeing come in on the wards, rightly or wrongly. I just give an example where people are clearly compos mentis making their own decisions and people on here are baying for blood.
I'm more curious as to why they didn't take it assuming their highly qualified club doctors presumably advocating them? Or they don’t?The players who are not vaccinated at this stage really need to face severe monetary consequences.
People like you are so annoying.
Technically speaking the analogy is poor. You can still get battered being vaccinated and you can still get side effects worse than covid.Thank you for saying this, I don't know how this is a difficult concept to grasp.
Is there any evidence linking the vaccine with strokes? Genuine question as I don’t know.
A remarkable generalisation that.
I've had my vaccine, before you decide to have a pop. My wife worked in ITU for 6 years in one of the largest hospitals in the country, she's left now, but her best friend is still there who has now moved into a bed manager position. She's refusing to get the vaccine because of the huge increase in patients being admitted with strokes, the overwhelming majority of which have received the vaccine. This is someone that's been in the thick of it for 2 years, has seen both sides, but she's come to her own decision.
Let's not act like everyone that doesn't happily lap up every vaccine sent our way is some sort of thick shit that should be taken out of the gene pool.
Is your wife's friend a scientist or just a random nurse? Because you talk about generalisations (and use the word wrongly) and then go on about some random person who may or not have a clue.
The last two years have shown that nurses and even doctors are not immune to stupidity. And even if there is a risk of the vaccine, as a whole, it benefits society.
Thanks for the answer.The Astra Zeneca vaccine may be linked to strokes in certain cases but it's not being used much anymore. Most people will get one of the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer or Moderna, which are not known for this side effect.
Obviously you can, that's when efficacy comes into play.Technically speaking the analogy is poor. You can still get battered being vaccinated and you can still get side effects worse than covid.
I'm jabbed but let's not oversimplify the problem.