It's just common sense. The Sun wouldn't need to read this thread to be saying what we've been saying about passing the fit and proper person test.
Could Utd be sold soon?
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It's just common sense. The Sun wouldn't need to read this thread to be saying what we've been saying about passing the fit and proper person test.
Maybe it has no impact for you but to believe that their antics won't create a sh*t storm here is fanciful thinking. Anyway forget the media I myself would feel a bit tainted to have our club run by such people.
What are you talking about? What's the relevance?
I guess it's personal preference. I'd not focus on Saudi relations as it has nothing to do with my hobby of supporting United. Just as I couldn't care less what those ugly Glazer fecks do in their spare time.
Do you think of human rights issues when filling up your car? No.
Can't say I've seen any anti-City / anti-PSG comments for their respective fans now that they are successful because of them. Especially since both countries have been found guilty of human rights crimes, corruption and slavery.
Guess if you buy a house from someone and use the house you hasnt fully paid as mortgage collateral you're a leech as well. God forbid you rent the house and pocket the income.
Damn leeches
The thing with City and PSG is that these clubs were so starved of success that their fans were willing to accept anything as long as they bought them some success. I would like to think we at Man Utd are not at that level where we would accept anything for some success, seeing as how we've achieved a lot of it without having to resort to sugar daddy owners.
But as you say its a matter of personal preference.
I see what you're saying but the thing is, we don't need a sugar daddies money. We just need owners who don't take money out of the club to line their own pockets or using our money to service the debt they put onto the club while taking it over.
Would like to see this happen but do not think it would be possible.
Totally agree with this as I dont think someone should be able to buy any club unless they have the money especially a club like our which is making then rich in the process.
Too late now sadly. We may be a well-supported club but we won't be able to afford $4bn between us.
The only hope is that a hugely wealthy benefactor buys United and then returns it to fan ownership. But only a tiny fraction of the world's population have that kind of money.
The FA should have put a governance model in place before the foreign owners even arrived. But, as we know, they're morons.
I think most here aren´t fans of the Glazers one bit.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/17/iceland-boycotts-israeli-imports-in-solidarity-wit/
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2011/12/2011121520139228504.html
My government is known for it´s battle in the UN regarding human rights and civil rights.
That said I fully agree with you.
I wonder what would happen to our new women's team.
I am sure Addidas will sell that kit too.
I am sure Addidas will sell that kit too.
Did they smuggle Shaqiri in to play number 10?
If not, why would they be against it? Not only does United benefit but also the community. Pros is all I see.
Also the scrapping the Women's team has been asked a few times in this thread already
Mate i don't believe for 1 second that you don't already know why people would quite understandably be against the idea of a Regime like the Saudi Royal family owning United.
Personally, SA is doing much worse crap that what has been done to the journo. Yeman comes to mind.
Secondly, I can see the Glazers willing to sell up -- they paid or invest only a few million quid for the club, pledged the club's future earning as collateral to the loans and in doing so, taken out over 1 billion quid out of the club in the past decade or so. So for them to get a nett profit of 3+ billion quid on a few million quid investment is equivalent of striking the proverbial gold mine.
Thirdly, the Glazers dont give a flying feck about the club -- no emotional attachment at all.
Finally, I can see the Glazers recognising that they have taken this LBO/Financial play as far as they possibly can. To bring United back to its past 'winning' glory days, would require some serious knowledge of the game and investment to compete against the oil-funded entities. The risk of losing money or pocketing 3+ net profits from the Saudis -- I think the choice is clear.
As far as the Saudis owning us, we have absolutely no feck-all control over it -- just like the cnut Glazers who if we remember correctly was triggered by Fergie's falling out with the Irish Mafia.
And if the Saudis buy us up, I rather look on the bright side -- we have suffered enough with the money grabbing cnuts for well over a decade or so; wouldn't it be a nice change that folks are willing to pour money into the club to ensure we get back to our winning ways, money no object.
Imagine where United would be if we have not had over a billion quid siphoned out of the United coffers the last ten years? Its not like we have not suffered enough (and are paying for it today) and deserve some pay-back for a change.
Secondly, I can see the Glazers willing to sell up -- they paid or invest only a few million quid for the club, pledged the club's future earning as collateral to the loans and in doing so, taken out over 1 billion quid out of the club in the past decade or so. So for them to get a nett profit of 3+ billion quid on a few million quid investment is equivalent of striking the proverbial gold mine.
Thirdly, the Glazers dont give a flying feck about the club -- no emotional attachment at all.
Finally, I can see the Glazers recognising that they have taken this LBO/Financial play as far as they possibly can. To bring United back to its past 'winning' glory days, would require some serious knowledge of the game and investment to compete against the oil-funded entities. The risk of losing money or pocketing 3+ net profits from the Saudis -- I think the choice is clear.
As far as the Saudis owning us, we have absolutely no feck-all control over it -- just like the cnut Glazers who if we remember correctly was triggered by Fergie's falling out with the Irish Mafia.
And if the Saudis buy us up, I rather look on the bright side -- we have suffered enough with the money grabbing cnuts for well over a decade or so; wouldn't it be a nice change that folks are willing to pour money into the club to ensure we get back to our winning ways, money no object.
Imagine where United would be if we have not had over a billion quid siphoned out of the United coffers the last ten years? Its not like we have not suffered enough (and are paying for it today) and deserve some pay-back for a change.
If the Govt wants to take the high road, then start by shutting off the sale of ammunition and weapons to SA.
United is the convenient punching bag for the public and the ABU media -- why not focus on eg BAe.
We're also training them for their operation in Yemen.
So, this may very well have all been a circle of shite that actually never had any substance beyond some flimsy claim in the Daily Star... That would be a relief!
Ah well, if that proves to be the case, it kept us (and the football hacks) occupied during the international break I suppose.
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Precisely. We are the easy punching bag.
Must have filled their Paul Pogba quota for the year.
Move with the times, buddy.
I like typewriters, but computer keyboards and touch screen phones are all the rage, now. I had the option to either move with the times or get left behind. I chose not to get left behind.
Probably be put in an orange boiler suit with hands tied behind his back,he still couldnt be trusted to get it right with transfers even with unlimited funds!
Who to believe? The Independent say the interest is real!
28 pages of debate based on a DailyStar article. fecking hell. I know it was International Week but why do people give bullshit articles such merit? I could shit on a piece of paper and it'd be more authentic.
Any one threatening now to stop support the club if the Saudis take over, please close the door behind you.
I know city fans who are already biting their nails.
The Independent and sources in Saudi Arabia also now reporting it.
No smoke without fire...
I am sure Addidas will sell that kit too.
Why is Shaqiri playing in a woman's team?
What the hell is going on, here?
Exactly, the government should stop selling them weapons and missiles that they use in Yemen and should stop covering for them in the UN every time the world want to condemn their acts in Yemen.
First part of that comment reminds me of “go and watch Chelsea” circa 2005.
There is a huge difference between buying a building, which has no human attachment or sentimental value compared with buying a football club, which not only includes the buildings/land, but also the heritage of many who identify strongly with that club.
Agreed.
My only surprise is that it has taken this long for MUFC to be in the running for a big money takeover, from somebody who has the money and will-power to pull this off.
I don't think the debate is about this article specifically, but rather it touches on a particular concern of many amongst the fanbase regards ownership of the club after it became a PLC. The Saudis buying the club and using it as a propaganda tool to redecorate their tainted image (ala Shiek Mansour with City) is one of those concerns.
The Independent article is by Miguel Delaney who, according to this forum, knows nothing about Man Utd.
What has this comment got to do with the article you quoted? The Guardian piece doesn't take any high road, it simply points out this MBS/United story is based on random tweets from random tweeters.
The original tweet that started this rumour is apparently from Diego Martinez, freelance journalist. Below is the tweet that started it all and a few other scoops he's delivered recently:
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. Just adding context.
No it is not the same, because they are actually threatening to stop watch or support united, I am just telling them to close the door behind them if they do so.
House of Saud: "Look everyone, over there!"
I'm sure this is true, but one has to ask where the line is drawn. If in an alternative universe, Hitler wanted to buy the club to improve the image of the Nazis, would that be OK? The Saudis are an order of magnitude worse than the people who own City or PSG, and they're pretty bad. Much as I despise the Glazers or Murdoch for entirely different reasons, this is worse.
Unfortunately there is a lot of truth in your statement.