Ridiculous that anyone is targeting Deeney or for that matter any player who does not want to train when things are so unclear. The whole project restart is just a toss of the coin, and it could go either ways. Understandable that all players don't share the same confidence as others.
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I will assume that the rest of the players and stuff in these 3 clubs were tested negative so it's these 6 players that won't play and won't start preseason. As for the assumption, of course Liverpool fans will complain then anyway, they will change their opinion based on the consequence but based on numbers and numbers, the ratio is pretty small to affect what FA are planning regarding the small.
Ignore and move on. If money is the driving factor in Project Restart, such minor stuff will be ignored.
TBH, this could have been ten times worse, and I think the plan would have remained the same.
6 is too small, 30+ might have made them rethink the plan.
Does anyone actually think the PL care how many people test positive? They probably have a trade of between the £ and infection rate.
It's not a question about blaming individual players. It's about footballers being held to the same standards as the rest of the population. Nearly everyone has at risk family members but we don't have the luxury to stop working due to this. Deeney or any other player is well within their rights to not play and ask for a leave or dispensation. The issue is they are saying the whole footballing industry should not come back to business because the players are at risk. We are all at the risk when we go to work, but we can't call for our businesses to remain shut. It's the entitlement from some players that is grating.
Actually, this is not correct. Football falls under the entertainment category, like theatres, etc.. which are not been told to go back to work.
Why is it that only football is so eager to get back?
Has there been any footballers that have demanded to be paid whilst refusing to play? What entitlement are you referring to?
It's not just football, television drama production is returning in the UK.
Would you be happy for all of next season to be played behind closed doors? including CL ties?
Does everyone who wants Deeney back and the PL to plow on regardless want kids back in school now?
Asking as I'm curious as to where people's current boundaries are and why.
Asking as I'm curious as to where people's current boundaries are and why.
and socially distancing I think? Rewriting scripts?
footballers won't be two metres apart
Thats grand when there is only goods invovled. When you have people involved they can say feck off
Lower that community rate if that means anything
No. But it's going to probably have to, and players will continue to contract this thing while it does. Football needs to convert to a model, temporarily, which mitigates risk and approximates the game as much as possible. This is what everything is going to do over the coming months: tv production is doing it, bars and restaurants will do it, live entertainment will do it. None of those things are going to return to their pre-covid form right away but we have to make do. No business is going to wait until it's all or nothing, they'll return in a different form that mitigates risks.
Because the alternative is to wait for a vaccine for could take years and try to restart the professional game from whatever total wreckage we're left with.
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Yep, almost all the other European leagues are also desperately trying to restart JUST because Liverpool can win the league. You have it spot on.All this, just so youse can wave an * around.
What about the people that the 6 were in contact with ? Arent they meant to self isolate for 14 days?
Could be the whole first team that cant train for 2 weeks.
I agree you cannot wait until a vaccine is available but it seems rushed to me this project restart. Just like alot of things the govt has done.
It seems there is no real plan, it would have made sense to test players / staff regularly leading up to the last weekend.
Why do you only start testing a week before training?
What I am getting at is better planning is required.
This is getting bizarre here. Did you genuinely think there wouldn't be infected footballers? How likely is that? The whole point of mass testing is to find them and isolate them. Just as they did in Germany. The league is continuing whether you like it or not. But we've been through this.
This is going to rumble on and on with randoms testing for it.
So the only obvious way is a simple set of one off games to decide it all.
Liverpool v City for the title. Maybe Liverpool get choice of ends to allow for the points advantage.
Us v Sheff Utd for 5th
And maybe a couple of games to sort the rele out.
Perfect. Who could disagree right? Maybe I should be on the board.
So the only obvious way is a simple set of one off games to decide it all.
Liverpool v City for the title. Maybe Liverpool get choice of ends to allow for the points advantage.
Us v Sheff Utd for 5th
And maybe a couple of games to sort the rele out.
Perfect. Who could disagree right? Maybe I should be on the board.
Fair, and I don't doubt that we'd have thousands crowding the streets if/when they announce it.No, you’re right, we wouldn’t but we’re shite right now so it’s unlikely to cause anyone any health concerns.
He has all the right to do so just as anyone else.
Thirty years of crying and gnashing of teeth won't be put to bed for you by this * league.
The entitlement of thinking that the entire industry should not be back at work because a few individuals are uncomfortable with the situation. If I'm uncomfortable about going to the office, I wouldn't be asking my entire company to not open at all.
Are you being told to be within 10cm of each other in your office?
What's a minor issue like a few virus deaths when on the other hand there is more money to be made?
Let the handshakes and spitting commence.
Can't they just end the season with the placings now as final?
Let the handshakes and spitting commence.
Can't they just end the season with the placings now as final?
Can't really compare normal jobs to football in that respect. People who have normally jobs wont be continually tested and be isolated with their colleagues which is what is happening to the footballers precisely due to the physical nature of the sport.
What's a minor issue like a few virus deaths when on the other hand there is more money to be made?
Let the handshakes and spitting commence.
Can't they just end the season with the placings now as final?
Is this your first day on this thread?
Pay me 100k per week when my colleagues are being tested twice a week, and I'd be happy to have them within 10 cm of me. Not to mention when you have to use public transport at full capacity, social distancing kind of goes out of the window.
They haven't been in contact with their teammates for weeks?
Did you even bother your hole reading that article ?
It literally states in the third paragraph that his 5 month old son has breathing issues. THAT is why he is not going in and it’s completely understandable given the virus attacks the respitory system !
He Is quoted as saying:
I have a baby roughly the same age and I would take the exact same stance if there was a health condition!
Glad to know you would be willing to play fast and loose with your kids health though.
crippled by fear? Do me a fecking favour.
Is this your first day on this thread?
No not really. I'm just amazed that such a big risk is going to be taken.I really don't understand why more people don't get this. The solution is not to close all industries that aren't "essential" and risk financial ruin. We have to figure out ways to live and thrive with this virus, and yes that includes the football industry also.
We've literally had 313 pages thrashing over why you can't just take places as they are. That's why I ask
Wouldnt those 3 teams then have to quarantine if this happened once training began?
Six isn't a bad result at all, hopefully the next rounds of testing don't cause any issues, then it should be full steam ahead to get things finished.
It says players or club staff. That could be drawn from a huge number. United PLC has 922 staff as of 2018, as a guesstimate are we saying 300-400 that are involved at club level on a day to day basis plus more for match day? About 7000 - 10000 that are involved in this operation across the league?
Football isn't just a game though...it's a business and it employs thousands of people, if not tens of thousands of people, not including the players or staff on hourly wages that support them.
All the other individual or individually distant sports still require more people to operate and function than the figures playing the match. Coaches, umpires/refs, grounds crew, security, TV broadcast teams, stadium operations, health pros/ambulance, etc.
748 tested, but that's still less than 1 % percent, and if they keep testing every few days and isolating those who have it they should easily be able to keep a lid on things with numbers like this, to be remembered that Germany had positive tests too before they started up.