Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[11101]

Not quite.

UEFA have talked about a 10-day knockout tournament in a neutral location to finish the 2 cups.

I think that is the likeliest scenario that will occur sometime in August in a UEFA country which has turned the corner.

We will see how viable that is. At the moment it's a non starter, as long as the FCO advises against all travel our teams wont be able to get insurance. It will be the same for everybody else.

Then you have to consider if any country will allow teams in from all over Europe, and if the clubs themselves will risk it. We saw what happened with Valencia when half the squad caught Covid at the Atalanta game.

First big nation Netherlands started it, now France follows suit. Only a question of time before Spain, Italy and then England abandons the current season and void all results. The funny thing is; since it’s Liverpool the discussions will be different and take longer - which is a huge shame. This decision should be made by politicians, not the football clubs.

It is. Football clubs and pundits can talk all they want, the government has the final say.

 

[Dave Smith]

Just can't see it happening as doing that really would create issues. If you give Liverpool the title you'd have to give every league leader in England champion status and whatever else comes with that. Don't think it's about being spiteful, it's about being fair and equality.

I can't see a one off special exception being made for Liverpool whilst everyone else suffers.

In a fair world that would be true. Unfortunately we live in a world were they will make the exception because the Dippers are 'the peoples Champions' and to make the exception will bring delight and a warm feeling to everyone up and down the nation.

 

[redmeister]

With European qualification, surely there has to be a restraint put on the financial benefits to the teams that qualify. Let's face it, it's only a handful of clubs that have a realistic chance of winning the tournament and for the great majority of the participants, the major benefit is financial. Clubs like Wolves and Sheff Utd have a genuine shot at the CL, which will be taken from them if the season ends now. It seems only fair, to me at least, that they are compensated in some way and totally unfair the likes of us (assuming City are suspended) and Chelsea get to benefit to the full extent financially. I don't know how the financials break down, but maybe we should only be allowed to fully benefit from the sponsorship and ticket sales, whilst a chunk of our TV revenue and prize money, is used to compensate the clubs who miss out, that could realistically have qualified. Maybe something along those lines could be worked out for relegated clubs also.

 

[Pace Abuser]

I really think with public opinion the way it is, no club in England is going to challenge things or make demands. The vast majority of this country don't care about football and even actively hate it. The public are looking for reasons to hate football and not even the darling Liverpool fan push that back. As proven by the furlough situation recently.

The government and FA will decide.

 

[Damien]

France voiding is a game changer no doubt.

I imagien Germany will still try to restart given how far down the road they are but can easily see Italy and Spain calling off in next few weeks and that makes things far easier for premier league to do the same.

They're just not finishing it, we'll only know next month whether it's effectively voided.

Well done to the French government though, they ain't fecking around.

I can't see how you can just stop the season mid-way and not void it. There's too many variables and what-ifs at hand.

Option 1: Points per match
Option 2: Positions on the last fully played match day (27)
Option 3: Positions midseason

Only seems to be the Europa places affected.

 

[TheReligion]

Option 1: Points per match
Option 2: Positions on the last fully played match day (27)
Option 3: Positions midseason

Only seems to be the Europa places affected.

I'm not sure they'll crown a champion and send people down though? Much like Holland. They'll think of a way to have a final table but it will be how the decide the rewards and punishments that's key.

 

[Sandikan]

I really think with public opinion the way it is, no club in England is going to challenge things or make demands. The vast majority of this country don't care about football and even actively hate it. The public are looking for reasons to hate football and not even the darling Liverpool fan push that back. As proven by the furlough situation recently.

The government and FA will decide.

You think a club that backed a racist by wearing t shirts with his face on, wouldn't try and oppose anything that stops them being awarded champions?

No chance!

 

[Pink Moon]

Option 1: Points per match
Option 2: Positions on the last fully played match day (27)
Option 3: Positions midseason

Only seems to be the Europa places affected.

Option 3 should be thrown in the bin immediately.

 

[Klopper76]

Positions mid-season? That's the most ridiculous option I've heard so far.

 

[Mb194dc]

Not long now I think...

Don't see the league continuing with other big countries voiding and a lot of people getting sick and dying from covid-19 to continue for months. Can't have medical resources being used at football matches for a start.

What really concerns me is we see a resurgence of this virus in the winter, quite possible we don't see any football again this year. Next spring could be a probable restart date.

Not sure how UEFA think the CL & EL are going to restart anytime soon either. Likely to be quarantine periods for travelling for 12 months between most countries. Can't see football being exempt from that. Next spring also seems realistic for the restart.

 

[Pink Moon]

I'm not sure they'll crown a champion and send people down though? Much like Holland. They'll think of a way to have a final table but it will be how the decide the rewards and punishments that's key.

That approach is the worst of them all. Oh, no your dominance at the top of the table doesn't count for anything and your abysmal season that was seeing you head down? Yeah, we'll ignore that. But you in 4th? Oh you're definitely getting rewarded for your season! The halfway approach is a shambles and deeply unfair.

 

[TheReligion]

That approach is the worst of them all. Oh, no your dominance at the top of the table doesn't count for anything and your abysmal season that was seeing you head down? Yeah, we'll ignore that. But you in 4th? Oh you're definitely getting rewarded for your season! The halfway approach is a shambles and deeply unfair.

And here lies the problem. Every solution has a problem which is why the only fair way that treats everyone equally is to cancel and void the season.

 

[Finn MacCool]

I'm not sure they'll crown a champion and send people down though? Much like Holland. They'll think of a way to have a final table but it will be how the decide the rewards and punishments that's key.

PSG, Liverpool and probably Celtic will all be champions this season.

 

[Pink Moon]

And here lies the problem. Every solution has a problem which is why the only fair way that treats everyone equally is to cancel and void the season.

That isn't fair either. It rewards someone like Norwich who were clearly going down, punishes Leeds who were clearly coming up, rewards shite teams like Arsenal who were doing nothing of note and punishes teams like Leicester and Sheffield United who were having fantastic seasons.

 

[macheda14]

That isn't fair either. It rewards someone like Norwich who were clearly going down, punishes Leeds who were clearly coming up, rewards shite teams like Arsenal who were doing nothing of note and punishes teams like Leicester and Sheffield United who were having fantastic seasons.

It wouldn't reward Arsenal, nor punish Leicester and Sheffield United. UEFA have quite plainly said that they will only be accepting people into the CL/Europa based on the 19/20 season.

 

[Nedu]

It wouldn't reward Arsenal, nor punish Leicester and Sheffield United. UEFA have quite plainly said that they will only be accepting people into the CL/Europa based on the 19/20 season.

That means the season was not totally voided then?

It either counts or it doesn't!

 

[Pink Moon]

It wouldn't reward Arsenal, nor punish Leicester and Sheffield United. UEFA have quite plainly said that they will only be accepting people into the CL/Europa based on the 19/20 season.

Yes, because UEFA have also strongly advised against the null and void scenario so naturally that is their stance. If the PL voids this season then there is no 19/20 season from which UEFA can accept clubs and you know the outcome will be defaulting back to teams that started the 19/20 season in Europe instead therefore Arsenal, a mid table team, will end up getting their European football again whereas Leicester and Sheffield United will get nothing.

 

[Sandikan]

So hang on, France aren't voiding at all?

People have to stop seeing what they want to happen here elsewhere!

 

[RobinLFC]

And here lies the problem. Every solution has a problem which is why the only fair way that treats everyone equally is to cancel and void the season.

Treating everyone equally is not fair, that's the fallacy in your solution.

 

[RobinLFC]

So hang on, France aren't voiding at all?

People have to stop seeing what they want to happen here elsewhere!

They've cancelled the rest of the season, yet people have made of that that they "are voiding" it, which has never even been mentioned by the authorities.

 

[Finn MacCool]

So hang on, France aren't voiding at all?

People have to stop seeing what they want to happen here elsewhere!

As soon as news emerges that a league has been cancelled people automatically assume its been voided. Its a natural instinct for most on here as it (falsely) builds hope for Liverpool missing out on the title.

 

[Rooney24]

That isn't fair either. It rewards someone like Norwich who were clearly going down, punishes Leeds who were clearly coming up, rewards shite teams like Arsenal who were doing nothing of note and punishes teams like Leicester and Sheffield United who were having fantastic seasons.

Norwich were 6 points off it with 9 games left. Nothing at all clear about them going down.

Same with Leeds. They are 7 points clear but 9 games to go.

both of those have been turned around plenty in the past.

 

[redshaw]

BBC

"It is not yet known whether Ligue de Football Professional (LFP) will choose to abandon the season with no promotion or relegation and no champions or base the outcome of the campaign on current standings. "

 

[Okey]

If France are banning games till Spetember, what happens to PSG's European games if the Champions league does resume? Looks like the begining of a very complicated chain. Apologies if already answered elsewhere...

 

[Rooney24]

If France are banning games till Spetember, what happens to PSG's European games if the Champions league does resume? Looks like the begining of a very complicated chain. Apologies if already answered elsewhere...

Quite simply they won’t be playing them. Which totally puts in doubt this CL season

 

[Sky1981]

People should stop saying "fair"

It's a force majeure, nothing will ever be fair about this. Time to deal with it.

Whatever the options on the table none of them are fair. We're not looking for fair and just, we're looking for speedy conclusion as the competition needs a closure for a lot of parties (sponsorship, contracts, legals, bonus payments, etc). It's not about restarting the league soon, it's about closing the league in the most appropriate (again, not about fairness) manner and put the whole football into hiatus until it's 100% safe to do so.

 

[Snafu17]

If CL will be finished, I assume it'll be completed in one location, wherever football won't be banned.

 

[Sandikan]

BBC

"It is not yet known whether Ligue de Football Professional (LFP) will choose to abandon the season with no promotion or relegation and no champions or base the outcome of the campaign on current standings. "

This whole thread is just United and liverpool fans scraping out any bit of text or link that tries to fit their desire.

 

[Grylte]

If CL will be finished, I assume it'll be completed in one location, wherever football won't be banned.

They should just finish it on Playstation.
The players have to play themselves, no pro gamers.

 

[Finn MacCool]

This whole thread is just United and liverpool fans scraping out any bit of text or link that tries to fit their desire.

i know its great craic isn't it.

Future generations of Utd and Liverpool fans will study this thread. It is the gold standard in how to fight your corner, be a stubborn repetitive fecker and never give the other side an inch.

 

[Megadrive Man]

i know its great craic isn't it.

Future generations of Utd and Liverpool fans will study this thread. It is the gold standard in how to fight your corner, be a stubborn repetitive fecker and never give the other side an inch.

I've not seen any of that so far?

in other news, no chance the season gets voided now.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

They should just finish it on Playstation.
The players have to play themselves, no pro gamers.

Penalty shootout for all remaining games - 5 pens each.

Only takers plus goalies plus managers allowed in (plus officials), no-one allowed within 5 yards of each other and each ball is binned/burned after a penalty. Result after 5 penalties equates to points as normal games do.

It'd be like those comps you had as a kid and there were loads of teams all ready for their match. Instead of some guy from the estate who's been put in charge shouting "right, next is Brickfield v Queens Park", we could have Brian Blessed calling "RIGHT, NEXT ITS MAN UNITED VERSUS SPURS"

After 6 weeks of nothing (new), I'd watch it live and tape it to watch again and again....

 

[Vault Dweller]

Until this post I always thought your username was Darth Vader for some reason.

See I don't think I'm anywhere near bad-ass enough to pull that off

 

[Cal?]

If CL will be finished, I assume it'll be completed in one location, wherever football won't be banned.

If the Bundesliga does resume in May and finish in June, they can organize it in July quite easily.

 

[sullydnl]

 

[Offside]

I’m glad to see the French and Dutch League are abandoning their leagues and moving on rather than this weird “null and void” idea.

 

[GiddyUp]

I said it at the start I'll say it again. If it was city that were top the calls to cancel would be a lot louder I think.

The emotional loss of football fans isn't actually worth anything, sorry Liverpool.

I think any other team other than liverpool or spurs and no one would give a shit. Void it all, write off 19/20 and be done with it. Start clean and clear, preferably towards the end of the year if seasons are going to be adjusted for WC2022.

 

[Pexbo]

What a brave man full of logic and reason and sensibilities. He should be listened to.

 

[GiddyUp]

That isn't fair either. It rewards someone like Norwich who were clearly going down, punishes Leeds who were clearly coming up, rewards shite teams like Arsenal who were doing nothing of note and punishes teams like Leicester and Sheffield United who were having fantastic seasons.

It's not clear until it's a mathematical certainty. This cant be handled like a Paddy Power early pay out. No matter how far you are in front nothing gets awarded until it's certain. Anything can happen in sport.

 

[GiddyUp]

Norwich were 6 points off it with 9 games left. Nothing at all clear about them going down.

Same with Leeds. They are 7 points clear but 9 games to go.

both of those have been turned around plenty in the past.

Leicester were on the brink and then won the league the following season. It's not beyond the realms of possibilities that the league could have come down to the last match after a liverpool collapse.
Now if the league had of continued for two more games that they had won leaving it a mathematical certainty then they would have had a case. It did not and we still had 25% of the league games to play so no matter how much they want us to suck their dicks, it ain't fecking happening. Liverpool are not league champions, it really is that simple.