Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

Why would Liverpool winning the league stop someone from getting European football?

The point is clear. If they decide to make Liverpool champions they'll have to honour that across all divisions with regards to league leaders. Then they'll rightly want and be entitled to promotion. And so on and so on.

You either treat every club the same or you don't bother. Everyone was going on about "lawsuits" if they voided the league. Newsflash. Discrimination will attract the biggest lawsuit possible. It simply has to be a level playing field.
 
Not sure why it should be easer to start new season in August. If anything there'd be 2-3 weeks of friendlies anyway so I'd rather try to finish this one during July / August.
 
I cannot see any football happening until they find a cure for this awful pandemic.

Football will TRY to restart, but once someone is infected that's it.

I love Liverpool, but I can't see any football at Anfield until next summer at the earliest now.
 
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Doesn't that blow a hole in UEFA's plans to restart the CL/EL as well? PSG and Lyon were still in Europe.
 
People acting as if no part of the economy will be reactivated until it can be done entirely safely are the ones fooling themselves. I work in non-essential retail and I'm hearing that we're not far off being allowed to re-open now. We will get similar guidelines to supermarkets but trust me when I say it is completely impossible to open most types of shop (a bookshop, in my case) and actually keep the risk of transmission in that shop low. People will not be able to stay two metres away from each other. People will constantly be touching things immediately after each other (both products and also surfaces, payment equipment, baskets, door handles etc). For every five reasonably sensible careful customers there will be an eccentric or careless person wandering around coughing, getting oddly up in your personal space, bringing fifteen dribbling kids in...

But the government is still going to do it sooner rather than later because rightly or wrongly they consider economic collapse worse than a sustained mid-level outbreak of the virus.

BCD football, by comparison, is not such a big deal. They have resources, they have expertise, and 322 people inside an entire football stadium is not that much - on a single busy day we can get easily twice that many people walking into the shop. It will be possible to keep everyone except for the players when they're on the pitch reasonable insulated from one another. I foresee a situation where players are constantly tested, rendering the physical contact on the pitch virtually risk free.
Yep, agree with much of this. In so many different sectors it will be near enough impossible to implement social distancing and eradicate contamination. You do what you can to limit spread but there is always going to be risk. If you start heading down the road of ‘what ifs’ which is what a lot of people are doing with football in this thread then the only option is to close down everything permanently. I mentioned too that football will actually be better equipped then a lot of other sectors because of the resources available to them. The people playing football are also the least likely to be badly affected by corona. But you know what it’s like, when it comes to football, even people who love football have this deep rooted grudge against it. So they can’t see the forest for the trees.

the problem you have with something like wrestling not conforming to distancing is the perception it gives. It influences people, and their own bad behaviours. It’s pretty poor to allow this to carry on. There will be people not conforming to social distancing because you see people of TV not doing so

the same with football - if we are seeing football matches on the tv when we have restrictions in place in the rest of society that’s a recipe for disaster.

if social distancing has stopped, and as long as tests are readily available for those that need it, then football can crack on. But we are not at that stage yet.
Yeah I know , I’ve said it a few times in my posts that this is all based on government giving the go ahead. Football isn’t going rogue and doing its own thing.
As for wrestling, that’s Donald Trump but wrestling doesn’t have the same stigma attached to it as football so actually nobody cares and it’s probably not influenced anyone’s behaviour. I’ve not seen anyone in America protesting based on wrestling being allowed to continue.
 
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European football is done.

Not quite.

UEFA have talked about a 10-day knockout tournament in a neutral location to finish the 2 cups.

I think that is the likeliest scenario that will occur sometime in August in a UEFA country which has turned the corner.
 
First big nation Netherlands started it, now France follows suit. Only a question of time before Spain, Italy and then England abandons the current season and void all results. The funny thing is; since it’s Liverpool the discussions will be different and take longer - which is a huge shame. This decision should be made by politicians, not the football clubs.
 
Not quite.

UEFA have talked about a 10-day knockout tournament in a neutral location to finish the 2 cups.

I think that is the likeliest scenario that will occur sometime in August in a UEFA country which has turned the corner.
Ok , something to look forward to.
 
Cancel the season, focus on starting the next one properly whenever it can happen. Only thing that makes sense.
 
First big nation Netherlands started it, now France follows suit. Only a question of time before Spain, Italy and then England abandons the current season and void all results. The funny thing is; since it’s Liverpool the discussions will be different and take longer - which is a huge shame. This decision should be made by politicians, not the football clubs.

I said it at the start I'll say it again. If it was city that were top the calls to cancel would be a lot louder I think.

The emotional loss of football fans isn't actually worth anything, sorry Liverpool.
 
European football is done.

Could be done for 20-21 as well


If European countries all ban sport till Sep they can't play the 80+ matches for CL group stage qualification and 200+ matches for Europa group stage qualification that usually happen in June-August.
 
But you know what it’s like, when it comes to football, even people who love football have this deep rooted grudge against it.
Literally, it's beyond odd.

Footballs an easy target and it has been for years, case in point how many people throwing a hissy fit at the thought of BCD football will display the same outrage when soaps start filming? (something that probably carries more risk when you consider the bulk of the filming is done internally on small sets, not to mention the make up).
 
Could be done for 20-21 as well


If European countries all ban sport till Sep they can't play the 80+ matches for the CL and 200+ matches before the Europa group stages that usually have in June-August.
Makes you wonder what they'd do if this season is voided but football can't start up again until December or January. How can you start a season half way through?
 
Makes you wonder what they'd do if this season is voided but football can't start up again until December or January. How can you start a season half way through?
The timing of the Qatar world cup would inadvertently offer the solution.

Two calendar year season's!
 
Makes you wonder what they'd do if this season is voided but football can't start up again until December or January. How can you start a season half way through?
With the world cup in November, they could adjust a season to make it fit around that. They were having to do it anyway
 
Could be done for 20-21 as well


If European countries all ban sport till Sep they can't play the 80+ matches for CL group stage qualification and 200+ matches for Europa group stage qualification that usually happen in June-August.

Indeed. This is all assuming no second wave/new lockdowns or restrictions in autumn, as well, which would disrupt the season all over again.
 
Sporting integrity they cry!

with France sensibly cancelling the league - does that satirist the delusional dippers who were crying that it didn’t matter what the other leagues did as they weren’t big enough?

teams are one by one effectively dropping out of the CL and the Europe League as their domestic seasons are cancelled.

They will have to announce soon the CL and EL is cancelled - unless of course the PL can continue with charade, and Utd can get a bye to the final and then win by default (the Liverpool way :D).

other countries to follow suit in the next few weeks.
 
Could be done for 20-21 as well


If European countries all ban sport till Sep they can't play the 80+ matches for CL group stage qualification and 200+ matches for Europa group stage qualification that usually happen in June-August.
Yep , could be a while until we see any euro footie.
 
Is there anything reported about why the French didnt feel they could do BCD?
 
You can't do one and not the other. Impossible.
You cant award the team at the top the league then not promote the team top of the league below which means relagtions and promotions the whole way down. You have to have consistency

It's a totally unprecedented situation.
That's why we have these worrying sounding paper speculations, of Liverpool the title, 2-3 teams up from the champ, and no relegation - plus no champs league.
That'd be one dreadful combo
 
They won't just give Liverpool the league. Does anyone think the rest of the football league will accept that they'll miss out on promotion and European football just to let that lot win a title?

No chance. Whatever they decide will have to treat each team equally.

The issue, is that Liverpool winning the league is the only "given" out of all the scenarios throughout the leagues, with maybe Bolton being relegated out of league 1 the only other obvious one.

Yes we can argue that it's not mathematically done, but it'd be one brave FA to take on the scouse mafia in the press, and a big powerhouse club like Liverpool.

If it went to a Premier league vote, simply on awarding the title, there's no way in hell they'd vote no. Professional clubs aren't as spiteful as us lot.
 
And so the second domino falls. This season never happened. The only thing to decide is who might qualify for any potential Euro competitions for 2020/21 season if that goes ahead in some, probably shortened, form). The options are probably the following...

Same as last year (no legal arguments here - essentially rolling back to restart this season)

Based on current positions - fraught with legal implications unless we are able to offer extra champs league spots - unlikely unless UEFA is feeling very generous and can schedule extra rounds.

Based on a shortened play-off games involving all teams in contention - depends on ability to get games completed and some contention about who takes part.

Relegation and promotion is so legally toxic that this will be avoided, which points us more in the direction of "Same as last year" option - as we essentially say the 2019/2020 season starts again in 2020/21 and avoids all the complications.
 
It's a totally unprecedented situation.
That's why we have these worrying sounding paper speculations, of Liverpool the title, 2-3 teams up from the champ, and no relegation - plus no champs league.
That'd be one dreadful combo

Its basically fan fiction.

Liverpool fans making up each and every scenerio, and the only thing that matters is Liverpool end as champions. It’s understandable, but I would of thought by now they would have got over this and started to live on the real world.
 
Not sure why it should be easer to start new season in August. If anything there'd be 2-3 weeks of friendlies anyway so I'd rather try to finish this one during July / August.

Waiting until August means we buy 4months to hope things ease to allow football again.
 
Is there anything reported about why the French didnt feel they could do BCD?
I think that no matter the country, trying to force the issue BCD will have negative results. You know that some idiots will gather in front of stadiums, or in somebody's place to watch it.
The Premier League has the most to lose but i think this is a bad idea.
 
Its basically fan fiction.

Liverpool fans making up each and every scenerio, and the only thing that matters is Liverpool end as champions. It’s understandable, but I would of thought by now they would have got over this and started to live on the real world.

I think every situation has been considered now.

We should make a flow chart!

There'd be one branch with playing BCD - which surely has to be unlikely.

Then the - season finishes, and how to sort that out.
With many options, all really messy.
 
The issue, is that Liverpool winning the league is the only "given" out of all the scenarios throughout the leagues, with maybe Bolton being relegated out of league 1 the only other obvious one.

Yes we can argue that it's not mathematically done, but it'd be one brave FA to take on the scouse mafia in the press, and a big powerhouse club like Liverpool.

If it went to a Premier league vote, simply on awarding the title, there's no way in hell they'd vote no. Professional clubs aren't as spiteful as us lot.

Just can't see it happening as doing that really would create issues. If you give Liverpool the title you'd have to give every league leader in England champion status and whatever else comes with that. Don't think it's about being spiteful, it's about being fair and equality.

I can't see a one off special exception being made for Liverpool whilst everyone else suffers.
 
I think that no matter the country, trying to force the issue BCD will have negative results. You know that some idiots will gather in front of stadiums, or in somebody's place to watch it.
The Premier League has the most to lose but i think this is a bad idea.

Some grounds have banks you can loiter on and see a lot of the game - my league 1 team does, and I know Northampton in league 2 do.

You'd have to station people there to stop that happening en masse!
 
Just can't see it happening as doing that really would create issues. If you give Liverpool the title you'd have to give every league leader in England champion status and whatever else comes with that. Don't think it's about being spiteful, it's about being fair and equality.

I can't see a one off special exception being made for Liverpool whilst everyone else suffers.

Obviously I hope you're right fella!

Since the chat about average points and top 3 going up in league 1 died down (my boys Wycombe would go up on that solution!!), then i'm so over PPG!!